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Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

I think people react to the idea that everything is put on hold while all of this gets priority but that's not the case. There is still a flow and yes with ROC, we are here, we have filed, and we get NOA or stamped I 551 but we don't become illegal or face deportation. If the case isn't completed we continue to get extensions. Unless we are denied for some reason, which for all of us at this ROC stage, is incredibly unlikely...well unless you turn out to be an axe murderer or something, we are essentially waiting for the process to complete.
We're in a different place than those others discussed ie asylum, and specialized circumstances. My primary point was less about judgment of whether a policy should or should not be, although I have my own thoughts about this; but merely to point out that during the 2010 Haitian earthquake, many were concerned that the US administration was going to stop processing everyone but the folks in Haiti therefore delaying everyone's claims and petitions; but that was not the case and all just went along.
Have a groovy day !

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

I think people react to the idea that everything is put on hold while all of this gets priority but that's not the case. There is still a flow and yes with ROC, we are here, we have filed, and we get NOA or stamped I 551 but we don't become illegal or face deportation. If the case isn't completed we continue to get extensions. Unless we are denied for some reason, which for all of us at this ROC stage, is incredibly unlikely...well unless you turn out to be an axe murderer or something, we are essentially waiting for the process to complete.
We're in a different place than those others discussed ie asylum, and specialized circumstances. My primary point was less about judgment of whether a policy should or should not be, although I have my own thoughts about this; but merely to point out that during the 2010 Haitian earthquake, many were concerned that the US administration was going to stop processing everyone but the folks in Haiti therefore delaying everyone's claims and petitions; but that was not the case and all just went along.
Have a groovy day !

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

I think people react to the idea that everything is put on hold while all of this gets priority but that's not the case. There is still a flow and yes with ROC, we are here, we have filed, and we get NOA or stamped I 551 but we don't become illegal or face deportation. If the case isn't completed we continue to get extensions. Unless we are denied for some reason, which for all of us at this ROC stage, is incredibly unlikely...well unless you turn out to be an axe murderer or something, we are essentially waiting for the process to complete.
We're in a different place than those others discussed ie asylum, and specialized circumstances. My primary point was less about judgment of whether a policy should or should not be, although I have my own thoughts about this; but merely to point out that during the 2010 Haitian earthquake, many were concerned that the US administration was going to stop processing everyone but the folks in Haiti therefore delaying everyone's claims and petitions; but that was not the case and all just went along.
Have a groovy day !

Well for the record, when I was petitioning for the green card under the I 130 there was all this talk about Haiti and the devastation of the 7.0 catasphronic earthquake in 2010 and those folks would be processed first etc....and people started making similar comments such as yours, against the President blah blah...and guess what? My petition from filing to approval took 6.5 months. Many many others were very close in that timeframe. So the argument and fear was without merit.
And do you remember that while it's a royal pain the rear to have to wait, there are people facing deportation, you are not. Just like the folks in Haiti faced unbelievable devastation, people actually complained about the possibility of their own claims being delayed, and weren't.

is white toast an unappetizing way of saying bleached enriched flour toast?

I don't know what you guys are up against and what you're going through. However, if you just got approved and you just got married, I think you might want to reconsider jumping on the divorce train just yet. Maybe a cool off time and reflection is needed. To simply proceed with terminating a marriage that just happened within 7 days seems drastic. Working through some of these difficulties might strengthen your marriage.
Good luck to you.

You understand that the birth certificate has been produced and approved by your vital stats people, that there actually is an instituion in your country that vets applications for presidential candidatess, that the Supreme Court (mostly Republican appointed) have thrown out cases brought forth because they deemed this having no legal merti, that the birth certificate has been scanned and posted (seal and all), that there was a birth announcement in Hawaii 48 years ago in two independent newspapers announcing the birth of this little boy in Hawaii back then, and that despite all this evidence, some of you guys still believe in fairy tales. People announce births and weddings and birthdays all the time in newspapers..
Or the alternative hypothesis is that despite all he's really not an American. Snopes has shown this to be false, factcheck org has shown this to be false, the courts won't touch it, even mainstream Republican politicians have stopped this nonsense and yet .....
the family announces his birth almost 50 years ago like a zillion people do...and they did this KNOWING he would be president a half a century later....wow great thinking, great cover up man. Conspiracy theories can be interesting, but this is not one of them. How do you explain the announcement in the Hawaiian papers? The gov't was in on this conspiracy to have Barack Obama elected 48 years later and had to start with fake announcements? If he camem from Kenya, US law required him /his parents to have a passport for him. That law was in place a year before his birth.
I think even if you birthers were there at the birth, you still won't accept it man.
Just my humble opinion...

Thanks for starting that discussion Fireray, I was going to do that so now I'll just add my two cents, for what it's worth.
Overall, I still recommend electronic processing. Some of what all of us went through thinking NVC's EP program was confusing/left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing etc, is probably inaccurate. I thought so to and accused them of that but have reflected on this and given what I learned, I don't necessarily agree with my earlier comments.
The biggest problem with the entire EP process is the lack of direction and meaningful assistance from NVC - the Wiki pages were very helpful and mostly the biggest help was from prior filers and the support we all got from each other on VJ. It's very much a self directed way to go. I don't know if there really any difference in terms of help when you file in hard copy format. Something to think about because you are sending off documents and still waiting in the dark and likely when you call NVC you get the same information.
Initially I was concerned because I did follow the direction given here so I called the obtain the NVC case number and then immediately sent off the OPTIN with the attached DS3032. I was somewhat impatient with the two weeks of getting the OPTIN confirmation and the fact that I got emails saying they didn't have my DS3032 despite my sending it. The same was true of the I 864 and DS230. In each case I paid the AOS and IV bills respectively and sent off the corresponding package, only to get emails asking for the very same documents I sent.
However, I also learned that the emails generated by NVC asking for those documents did NOT mean they didn't have the documents but rather that they are generated as a result of opting into EP. I wish NVC could have explained that so I was prepared.
For those about to go through this process, note: don't worry about those emails asking for the DS3032, I 864 and DS230 if you've sent them. They will get them. I had a bit of a rant because I ended up sending the OPTIN and Ds3032 a few times but really , looking back, it was my impatience and lack of solid information from NVC. Knowing what I know now, I would not even worry about it - I would expect a few weeks for confirmation and that they DO receive the documents despite the auto generated request for those documents.
NVC can improve this by sending proper emails advising of receipt of those documents rather than just sending out more auto emails. By auto I don't mean autoresponse. That's different.
An other advantage, as others have written, is that you get to keep your originals so if anything is lost, you can readily send again without worry of your original police certificate or birth cerfticate and, if required, certified translations etc. All documents that would be harder to obtain in some cases ie birth certificates from countries. Moreover, any potential RFE can be resolved quicker by emailing the documents rather than using postal or courier services.
Our case took about 25 days to process so overall that is a very quick journey through NVC (Mar 30 - Apr 23) - that also included a statutory holiday. I'm pleased with the speed of this processing.
The biggest issue is being somewhat in the dark, having little to no suppport from NVC and the confusing emails that seem to contradict but once you understand what is happening and why, they are benign and not reflective of them being confused or of not getting documents etc.
I would use EP and am glad I went through it despite some rantings and general anxiety.
I hope that those of us that have gone through have provided some light on a somewhat less than illuminated path, although I greatly thank Darnell and many others that have done the WIKI pages and offered advise and encouragement along the way.
VJ is tremendous for support and expertise.
Anyway, I'm rarely brief lol so I'll close. But in my view anyway, I think EP is a good process and to get through in a month or less is great. When you think of those before us spending literally months in NVC - in fact some still are unfortunately.
Of course now it's more hurry up and wait for the interview and it's entirely now up to the respective consulates and its own backlog. In our cases in Canada, we have Montreal - they have been sluggish but hopefully they've moved through the cases and are able to handle many more.
Good luck to all...