russian_armenian

I guess if ground for annulment is fraud and he wins it, your chances for I-751 approval are slim. USCIS cares that you entered with good faith (I guess that is why annulment might pass for immigration purposes). But if divorce court would go with fraud, your I-751 might be denied based on fraud. And if I-751 denied based on fraud, so affidevit of support is revoked. I guess that is what your husband wants.

My understanding that affidevit of support issue is just an excuse because both of you would spend more money and time on lawyers than he would ever require to pay you based on affidevit of support (since you eare working, you are not planning to get any ss money or gov assistance, rihgt?). So, he just wants to punish you for whatever and he understands that it is very inrational. So, he gets this excuse-he is afraid that affidevit of support would be enforeced and wants to prevent it and ready to pay $$$ for this possible threat.

What I know, it takes a few years to finalize contested divorce. (from people I know)

I feel for you, but you need to fight annulment with all resources you have.

About I-751, there an option to file under "separated but not divorced". So, you would be legal all the time till decree.

I guess evidence you would submit in family court, would be enough for I-751. Because now you are fighting to proove that you have entered a marriage with good faith. The same is required for I-751.

Good luck.

"1. Even if he get anulment in divorce court, for immigration purposes marriage was still valid.

I have read it in some INS docs. Check adjudicator's mannual on CIS website. Huge document with many chapters but covers most situations (and I am sure many lawyers dont remember all defenitions/...)."

This is interesting, I would appreciate if you could give me a link to the page or chapter... in the meantime I will read/research as much as possible by myself.

"2.As far as I remember, there is strikt definitions for annulment in NY (no sex, sickness, etc). I am sure that you would not qualify."

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Well, there is also the fraud (as ground for annulment) that's what he's betting on.

I will try to find out what does he have to back up his claim (as somebody suggested) I am upset that costs me a lot of money (each time a lawyer does something for you, the money starts going bye-bye in no time). I tried to talk to my husband (kind a hard to call him "husband."..) but no luck in getting any useful information.

Regarding alimony, take this: although we've been married for over a year, because I have a decent job and income and I paied for all my expenses so far, I am not a candidate for alimony! Even tough he makes more money then me (more then 1,000/month with respect to my salary...).

I am concerned that at the time of removal of temporary condition, I`ll still be in the divorce proceeding, since he is contesting the divorce.

The one year extension is a joke!

Do you have any idea how long it takes for a divorce decree to be issued if both parties dont agree (contested divorce) ? Average, is 3-5 years.... or better said, minimum that...

Many immigration lawyers that I`ve been to, didnt know the answer to my question: what happends if he doesn't agree to the divorce ?

There has to be a good strategy for people in this situation... and reading this forum for a while now, I can tell: there are a lot of them!!! (unfortunately)

Thank you all for your input.

Guys, thank you so much for support. The list was a big help. This month I was checking status almost every day-because I could see from our VJ list that they started to do Nov files.

Some people write here that they got approved without change in online status. In my case, the only update/touch was day after biometrics and the next booom CARD PRODUCTION. We had a lawyer, so I didn't worry about lost mail/lost RFE. But some people write that they never got any letters. I never got NOA1 (even when CIS officer ordered a second copy) but my lawyer got a copy.

So, I watched the list to see when I should contact lawyer/immigration and make sure that nothing got lost. It was a big help.

I think that 2007 filers got lost some time due to transfers. Looks like VSC is steady now. I would expect it to be about 6 mo in near future. Good luck to everybody! And thanks again.

We don't have many people left on the list who filed on November 2007. Its sad that we willl not hear about aprovals until they start on December filers. There is a long list of December filers including me. I hope they will work on December files on next month's first week. Just waiting patiently...

The lawyer's wife maybe has been a professional dancer...

But for your info %wise more Russian women have advanced degree than in any other part of the world. Most Russian women here are professionals (by the way, most of them are nor really Russians but majority are Russian Jewish-most got refugee status and most came here about 20-15 years ago).

Communist regime favored education. People must to go to college or univer to get education. The alternative was jail (only exception was for mothers with kids) because even for blue collar postions we were needed a college diploma. More women in Russia had univer degree than men. The situation has changed somewhat only about less than 10 years ago during which time education was considered a waste. (now it is back to norm).

It is a very bad stereotype to view all Russian girls as potential hookers/stripers. The same as many ignorant Russian view all Tai women as prostitutes, all Phillipino as maids, etc.

There is a lot of info in Russian news about prostitution/slavery, etc. Bad economy created many desperate young girls ready to believe anything. Average male in Europe/Mid East prefers white woman as a prostitute on regular basis. Here is a traffic of prostitutes/slaves into Turkey, W Europe, Arab countries.

For your info, a lot of Asian ####### houses were busted in Moscow (news almost every month). Mostly Chinese girls were working there (some Vietnamese but all Asians) but they had asian clients only (seems that Asian guys even in other countries still preferred Asian prostitutes). There is huge Chinese community in Moscow now. By the way, most Chinese girls in those brothels were slaves too-documents were taken, they just had to pay with there body for the passage to the west (according to news).

maybe she got a job at a strip joint because that was her profession in russia? seriously, guys, many russian women are in america because they got too old to work in strip joints and whorehouses, and had to change professions.

Cherr1980,

Have withdrew the old I-751? I think lawyers always send a letter with a new application about withdrewing the old one. If there an interview, they will ask to do so right away before they can approve. But I am not sure how important it is. I wish you good luck!

Well keep us posted.

I filed for a waiver as well, but I did it right after I divorced...so practically I have two cases pending...we'll see.

Good luck...you have plenty of evidence in my eyes, just be calm and remember all your details during your marriage, separation and subsequence divorce.

Just got approved, so i can say for sure...

They need only Federal returns but with all schedules. That is what lawyer said. And it does not have to be certified copies from IRS. Our copies were a mess-we just printed and even forgot to sign. If I am not mistaken, CIS and IRS share info.

Thanks... Well they are long as we filed together with Turbotax and it includes federal tax returns, CA tax returns and NC tax returns as we moved in 2007. There are tons of extra pages for the student loan interest, savings accounts and Roth IRAs... I'll look through it and only print the pages that are those official forms... Turbotax really creates a humongous output!!!!

I have checked case status on CIS web and could not believe it....CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED

So, it took over 10months at VSC.

For those who are preparing I-751 package, we have included:

Fed Tax for 2 years (just copies, even forgot to sign; but with all schedules);

Bank statements (total 3 or 4; from 2 banks since we moved and changed bank, spaning from begining of marriage till month of sending I-751);

Copies of credit cards in 2 names;

Costco cards;

Family cell phone plan statement;

Many utility bills -one name on each but for 2 SAME addresses and spaning the whole marriage;

401K doc;

old and new W2 for hubby-it shows single status on old and married on new-so, coworkers knew about marriage;

card with many signatures from my work-says Happy wedding!

Mortgage statement;

House buying contract signed by two;

Xmass card envelope from hubby's family (for both, post stamp shows that it was sent out of state)

Pictures (wedding, with hubby family, with my family, on vacation, at home-total about 10-12 spaning from dating till last month).

No affidevits-were told by lawyer that it is a weakest evidence and we have good package, so we dont need it.

Hope it helps.

Guys, checked case status on CIS web and

: CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED

So, I guess I should get card in a week or so.

I-751 journey took 10months and 1week.

I will write other post about docs submitted and everything my lawyer told. Hope the info will help somebody. Thanks a lot to everyone on this forum. It was a big support.

AntandD, would you please update my dates on the list. I dont want to screw it.

NOA1 (as per CIS web) November 19,2007. Card production e-mail Sep 25, 2008.

Thanks.

Some of those who sent their applications in early 2007 are still waiting as well - I think at the end of 2008 'maybe' those who submitted in 2007 will be done and perhaps then we can shorten the list. For the time being I think it is valid to let it remain with all of the names since they are dealing with all of the transfers from TSC this year - not all of whom have yet been approved.

Woh, long journey. Good luck. Sounds like you should be fine. They kept you on shelf probably because of letter from spouse, etc. There is something in your file. Best wishes!!!

Hello,

I'd like to get your opinion on my I751 case. I was married to a US Citizen in 2000. I got my 1st green card in May 2001. We both applied jointly to lift conditions in March of 2003. I never got a reply from USCIS until 2005 they sent me a notice telling me my case was transferred to California office. I did so many inquiries via phone, fax, congressman... nothing worked, they kept on telling me that my case still pending. FYI i got separated from my wife in November of 2003 due to constant abuse, but got divorced in 2005. I talked to an immigration lawyer who suggested that i should re-file a waiver since they didn't approve me before my divorce. I re-applied for a waiver based on good faith marriage last july of 2007 (I didn't apply immediately after my divorce because I never knew that i should refile another application until y lawyer advised me to do so). They sent me a notice for interview next week. I'm going with my lawyer & will list what i got as documents.

- Letter from our marriage counselor stating that we were seeing him for counseling to save our marriage.

- Police report dated of 2003. (she abused me one night & I called the cops)

- Lease showing both our names.

- Joint bank account letter.

- Old mails showing my address since 2000 including my job pay checks.

- Pics of our vacation together in Florida

- Few cards she gave me on occasions like birthdays, valentine's...

- Car registration showing us as owners.

- Bill of Sale of the car we owned together showing both our names.

- Fitness Club agreement membership with both names.

- Joint Tax transcript for 2001 showing our names. ( I couldn't get tax transcript for 2000, or 2002 coz they're older than 5 years ago & IRS couldn't send them to me)

- Bank statements showing our names.

- Engagement diamond ring receipt which i bought her.

So my question if you don't mind, do you think I have enough evidence for my interview? My attorney said i shouldn't worry much, but I want to get your opinion since you've been posting & helping people on the forum.

Thank you.

Completely agree with Diadromous Mermaid. If you feel that your evidence of fraud could be substantiated by other people testimony, letters, pictures, etc, go ahead and make sure that CIS take your information seriously.

Letters from USC are very common-they are called "angry spouse leters". Usually immigration officers tell I-751 beneficiaries about the letter from spouse in divorce cases. My guess is that most letters are not taken seriously (and most came from failed but real marriages). Sounds like you indeed were abused. But if you cannot substantiate the abuse, I would suggest to move on with your life and be happy. Let him know that you are so happy that he is out of your life and that it took only 1 year. Send your evidence but dont expect too much. Just move on. You deserve better. I saw some people getting bitter and ruining life because they wanted revenge more that happiness. Do what you can do, send what you have, dont waste your time on getting more evidence, thinking about this low ex. Take it as a good lesson-there are people without any morals and very low intentions. Even the smartest people could be hooked. Only cynical and self-centered people are spared. Hope you will not turn into such.

1. I was wondering do I need to let INS know that we divorced and if so do I include the divorce papers?

2. If I write INS that I believe it was a fraudulent marriage what will they do with that info?

3. If he is out of the US and tries to come back in will he be permitted if INS is told the marriage was fraudulent?

1. It depends. You have no obligation to inform USCIS, and when he applies to remove conditions, he will inform USCIS by way of the type of I-751 he would file. But if you wish to bring attention to your concern that you feel his intentions upon entering the marriage were not genuine, then yes, by all means do so. I would caution you that now that you are divorced, any information concerning his immigration process or status would not be divulged to you, unless your testimony would be key to a fraud investigation.

2. The information would be placed in his A file, and depending upon how convincing the evidence you present is, he may be interviewed at the next stage in his process. You may even be asked to present a sworn statement, too.

3. Yes he will be permitted to return, even if USCIS has received notice that you suspect this was a case of unilateral fraud. Of course, based upon what you might share, were USCIS to move to rescind (very doubtful) but chances are USCIS would await his application to remove conditions prior to making any nest step. Were he to submit a wiaver, and there were sufficient evidence to show that he entered the marriage fraudulently, if he is out of the country when a subsequent I-751 waiver is adjudicated, and the decision is to deny, then he would not be able to re-enter.

diadromous mermaid you write that the info will be placed in his A file. Do they sit on the info and wait for him to file the I-751 before contacting him? Will they follow up with me first?

Are there any threads that detail a person reporting fraud? Again please do not thing that this is just over infidelity. As I stated there are things that I can't mention at this time that I truely believe point to fraud.

Once again it depends upon how compelling the evidence you submit with your report is. If, for example, you supply evidence that he began a relationship during the marriage or maintained a relatinship with a fellow foreign-born all during the marriage, chances are this will not be sufficient to trigger a fraud investigation, but it might initiate a line of questioning if an interview is scheduled.

If, however, you provide evidence that he disclosed to others that he married you solely to gain residency, and this is in his hand and written to someone else, then USCIS would turn the file over to the local district office and when his I-751 is being adjudicated he would definitely be called in and questioned. In the meantime, should the local office have reason to believe your allegation that he entered the marriage with fraudulent intent, you will be asked to provide sworn testimony, conducted at the local office before the Anti Fraud Unit, and in writing (many times these sworn statements are also videotaped) , which will also be placed in his A file. It is also not uncommon for an AO from the local district office to call you, personally, to discuss the circumstances surrounding the marriage. Once again, this will depend entirely upon what and how compelling the evidence is that you have to offer.

Poor guy. He has some big issues. So, he has been working in Russia for 10 years (without any success-been cheated back and forth), has married a Russian girl half his age (now he is over 50), brought her to NY, and 4 months later she left him and started to work in a strip joint. Poor lawyer could not get over it and filed a lawsuit against the strip joint where the wife was working. But she still managed to keep her GC with help of WAVA.

10 years later, the guy is still bitter and now challenging WAVA in Fed Court, filing a suit against Columbia Univ's Center of Women Studies, against Ladies Nights, etc. I could say that he is trying to make money on all this but since he admits that puts an effort to get laid by very young ("in athletic prime") girls of African, Asian or Latino origin, I would say that he is a psyco.

He used to like Russians and white girls...Now, 10 years after, he is still so bitter that he can be only with color girls (his words). Jee. But looks like he got some sponsors. It is very expensive to prepare such a lawsuit.

I always get surprised when hear such stories. What did he expected when he has married a girl 20+ years younger? And since she got a job at strip joint, she was not a professional (otherwise, she would look for a job in a store, office, etc). He got what he wanted. He did not need a wife-he needed somebody to flash around, to posess. He gets mad when his possesion leaves him (my bet-she left so early because she did not see any money in his bank account in NY. She did not want to share problems). He should be smart enough and get real and let it go. To keep such a toy like his ex-wife he needed to spend, spend, spend and not to ask much in return. Sugar daddy is a sugar daddy not a real husband (you spend and get some control and access to young body; that is the deal). Stop looking for a sugar babes and might get a chance.

Just want to share this, in case it hasn't been posted yet.

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/02/21/finall...-federal-court/

Here is the attorney's myspace. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=93824748

Please notice his friends' pictures.

Mihaela,

Here is something you might need to check further.

1. Even if he get anulment in divorce court, for immigration purposes marriage was still valid. I have read it in some INS docs. Check adjudicator's mannual on CIS website. Huge document with many chapters but covers most situations (and I am sure many lawyers dont remember all defenitions/...).

2.As far as I remember, there is strikt definitions for annulment in NY (no sex, sickness, etc). I am sure that you would not qualify.

3. Husband sponsorship for immigration purposes are only in the limits of poverty levels. So, if you would apply for gov assistance (social security benefits, etc), gov might (big ? here) send him a bill later. Sponsorship is not alimony. This affidevit, he has signed, is to make sure that you would not become a burden for gov (public charge). But gov support is not that big even in extreme cases. And husband could be asked to pay it back to gov.

Just tell your husband that he is very stupid, if he started all this mess because of this obligation (which is by the way very difficult to enforce in court; you cannot just go to judge and ask for support from husband based on affidevit; affidevit has different purpose-protect gov not you).

4.Sounds like you have enough evidence for removing conditions (I-751). You dont have to wait 2 years. If divorce is final before that, just send I-751 with waiver. Check what docs you need (proof of comigled financial, social life-pictures, utility bills, bank statements; you need to show that you have resided at the same place, etc).

5.Get as much alimony as you can get. He is not a civilized person. You are qualified for alimony probably.

About affidevit of support, there is some definitions on CIS web as well. You might want to make him even more ungry if show that affidevit is valid till you became a citizen or depart US permanently and that annulment is not accepted for I-751 purposes. He is a double looser. I understand that feelings might change, but there are civilized ways to proceed.

Hi,

I am in a very difficult situation and I am writing about it hoping that people that went thrw something like this or similar or have any ideea of a solution might advise me.

I came to US on a K-1 visa and then I received my temporary GC based on marriage. After almost 1 year of marriage, my husband filed for an anulment (on the ground of fraud for immigration benefits - of course is all false accusations and the catch is this: he doesnt want to be responsable for me.

He is very concerned that, since he signed the affidavit of support he will/would have to pay for me, support me.

He wants out of the marriage and to be off of any responsability that might be still in case of a divorce.

After his filing the annulment, I filed for divorce based on cruel and inhuman treatment (one of only few grounds allowed in NY). The abuse is mainly emotional, verbal, psycological and financial. I have a counselor with an organization that helps abused woman, letter from the doctor - I got sick because of his behaviour and so on ... I was abused by him and his mother and threatened with annulment of marriage a month after the wedding. ... He is contesting the divorce and he said he wont give it to me unless I find another sponsor.

How can it be possible for him to get out of the responsability that the took when he sign it ?

May I file for removal of temporary condition if he gets the annulment ?

My two years expire on August, next year. Right now, we have a annulment and a divorce action both contested and we are waiting for the second Conference with the Court witch will take place in November.

How can I ,,release,, him form the responsability of affidavit of support and remove the condition on my GC? What would happen if he will be granted the annulment ? Would I have any chance to remain here legal ?

Thank you

Mihaela

NY

Ok, so you did sent I-751 with waiver in the first place (but somehow I think that option became available only this summer on a new updated I-751 form-you can mark there that still married but separated; I am not sure but I think old forms had only married/divorced/widdow options; you check it if you sent I-751 with waiver or only on cover letter specified info).

I would go to other lawyer and ask second opinion.

Somehow, I had impression that I-751 with waiver is put on shelf till final divorce decree is available. Maybe your lawyers knows more and some get approved without decree. But you wrote that lawyer is waiting for denial and refile or approval. More sounds like it was regular I-751 without waiver. Because if you sent I-751 with waiver you dont need to refile-just need to send final divorce decree when available.

Anyway, it is confusing-maybe you misunderstood/maybe lawyer is not qualified. Once again if USBIS is not asking to refile and just approve your I-751 without waiver (which is probably not a case here because of cover letter and timing), you got a big problem on your hand. 10y GC could be revoked at any time since divorce came before approval.

Thank you so much guys for the reply, the only reason why i wasn't worried is that we stated on the cover letter that me and my ex wife going through a divorce procedure and that as soon as the divorce is finalized we will send in the divorce paper. so when i asked my lawyer he told me that we should wait untill they ask for more evidence and he said that sometimes they ask to refile because of divorce sometimes they don't. so i think what i'm going to do is that i'm going to send in my divorce decree and wait and see what's going to happen next. what do you think? because i think i can't refile while having a pending application already with them, that would be two applications

You can travel at any time. But it will be easier if you get I-551 stamp since not everyone in other countries customs/airlines understand NOA1.

Hi everyone.

I have to do that removal of conditions thing to get my ten year green card this year. My 2year GC expires in middle of February next year.

I might have to to do a very important short trip to Germany next year and it will be on short notice.

I understand that I can travel outside the US while I wait for the approval of the 10year GC simply by having the expired GC and the Notice of action sheet (I-797C) with me. The NOA I will hopefully get soon after I send in the petition I-751.

Is that correct so far?

now I have read the following text that someone had in his approval note (found it in the FAQ section):

-----You should not travel outside the United States before receiving your new

card unless you have first received a passport endorsement from this Service

indicating that your new card is being processed.-----

does that mean I can not travel in the time between receiving my approval note and actually getting my GC in the mail?

can someone just clarify for me if there is any time or situation in this removal process during which I can NOT leave the US? (yes I understand that of course I have to be in the US for an eventual interview date and hopefully that and my short trip to Germany will not be in the same week)

Thank you so much and it is good to be back in VJ.

tachy

I would fire your lawyer. (or might have misunderstood your post and you have sent I-751 with waiver from the beginning). If not-

You need to send a new package ASAP with waiver and divorce decree. Do you realize that even if tomorrow you get approval on I-751, you cannot apply for citizenship. Your GC could be revoked at any time since I-751 would "approved" based on continous marriage. But if your divorce decree comes before I-751 approval-you think here...

You are just loosing time. CIS is going through court databases in some cases. Have your lawyer told you that the delay maybe caused because they got info that you are in divorce process according to court files? So, what are you waiting...???? Denial? Why not send a new I-751 with waiver? Are you sure that your lawyer is an immigration lawyer? The ref number you are talking is a number on your biometrics NOA. Your lawyer is waiting for RFE??? So, if you sent I-751 with waiver why not to send divorce decree. They need decree to finalize I-751.

Hi, I have been waiting to hear from CSC now for about 9 months now and i didn't hear anything. i applied on 12/05/07 sent in my application, the date on my NOA is 12/12/07 and i did my biometrics on 01/05/08 and i have been waiting since then. i'm starting to worry because while applying for removal of condition i was in the process of divorcing my wife, so i couldn't include the divorce decree with the application because divorce in California takes 6 months. now the divorce was finalized in june and i don't know if i should send in my divorce decree or not. i asked my lawyer and he said that we should wait until they ask for more evidence, because then we will have a Ref number where we can send the papers through.my lawyer also stated on the cover letter that me and my wife in the process of the divorce.

any one in the same situation?? or any ideas about what i should do?!!!!!!!

AntandD,

Thank you very much for maintaining the list. It is a big help. Thanks for your time and effort. I am sure that many others also appreciate what you do here

Hi Mandy2008,

No problem, I just added your information on the list, based on what you mentioned on your signature

Lol...funny, I've now become the "unofficial" VSC list updater...just kidding, as other VJers add their information on the list too...Seriously though, I don't mind helping with the updating the list at all (even though I wasn't the one that started the list in the first place..lol..)

Good luck too on your journey, Mandy2008.

Ant (#101 on the list still waiting at the VSC...)

AntandD

would you please add me into the list, you can find my information in my signature. Thank you!!!!

you made me laugh too. it is what i have expected. cheers, smothie!

It is not a judgement here. I wrote becuase such polite and romantic guy suddenly turned into agressive and "we-take-no-prisoners" attitude person once somebody expressed (Gigi??) her not so favorable opinion.

Fahim is a smart, capable and smooth guy. He will adjust to a new situation very very fast and act apprprietly. I see reasons the wife was in love for so many years ...being in other part of the world. He asked here about his GC but I am sure he knows about legalities more than average VJ poster. Just think...he has been here just for a couple of weeks but did so much already. He is a smart guy.

I know I should not write because their relationtion is not my business. Just felt sorry for the girl-sound like she is in love in this. For him it is more like business. But nevertheless, they might be happy. And I am not vicious-hope both will be happy in marriage.

Thetreble, nobody stated here that they know about OP, his intentions, etc. Even his wife does not know. And nobody really answered his question about SS/GC because the way he asked was more like dumping his frustration here than really asking a down-to-point question. He needed feedback. He got it. And being a smart calculating person, he absorbed it and (in my opinion) will make sure that in future nobody will "incriminate" all these to him (he will prepare to answer, get story strait, etc). He is an ultimate survivor. My thumbs to him too! So, maybe our posts will help in some weird way too

Who are you to judge and why do people keep giving the same arguments over and over again? You don't know his family or the people he is dealing with in the situation. I really LOVE the judgment here. Some people need to get off their AOS high horse thinking they know everything and everyone.

I have nothing to say about you but I can only laugh on you hehe.. you have too much of time to post rubbish and garbage.. I know what I am going through and things are fine for me.. soo cheers.. I have nothing to worry and nothing to say.. I mean, I being the owner of this thread do not even pay attention to this thread anymore because it means nothing to me anymore.. yes when I came things were quiet difficult for me but not anymore.. life is smooth and charm and happily living with my wife..

peace..

Fahim

PS: Thanks to those who encouraged me for all this time.. Thank you once again

It is not a judgement here. I wrote becuase such polite and romantic guy suddenly turned into agressive and "we-take-no-prisoners" attitude person once somebody expressed (Gigi??) her not so favorable opinion.

Fahim is a smart, capable and smooth guy. He will adjust to a new situation very very fast and act apprprietly. I see reasons the wife was in love for so many years ...being in other part of the world. He asked here about his GC but I am sure he knows about legalities more than average VJ poster. Just think...he has been here just for a couple of weeks but did so much already. He is a smart guy.

I know I should not write because their relationtion is not my business. Just felt sorry for the girl-sound like she is in love in this. For him it is more like business. But nevertheless, they might be happy. And I am not vicious-hope both will be happy in marriage.

Thetreble, nobody stated here that they know about OP, his intentions, etc. Even his wife does not know. And nobody really answered his question about SS/GC because the way he asked was more like dumping his frustration here than really asking a down-to-point question. He needed feedback. He got it. And being a smart calculating person, he absorbed it and (in my opinion) will make sure that in future nobody will "incriminate" all these to him (he will prepare to answer, get story strait, etc). He is an ultimate survivor. My thumbs to him too! So, maybe our posts will help in some weird way too

Who are you to judge and why do people keep giving the same arguments over and over again? You don't know his family or the people he is dealing with in the situation. I really LOVE the judgment here. Some people need to get off their AOS high horse thinking they know everything and everyone.

Morocco4ever, thums to you!!! I have the same feeling. OP courted this girl for GC (maybe this is one of the reasons her family does not want him; but I am sure her family will come around since the deal is done already).

Just pay attention to OP icon on VJ, how fast he found solutions in Arizona, understood that his permanent GC might be in jepardy and acted, acted smooth. OP is smooth!!! He never let the girl off the hook for 8 years. That is a master skills!!! (I believe even if she was in love, but being for 8 years so far away... you must have some smooth tounge to keep girl's passion alive). Using his skill he could convience parents; I am sure. But he never bothered hard... til this moment when GC became a jepardy. And suddenly, inlaws are not so tough. He is after what he needs only. I feel that ...He will be married to her even after 10ye GC but he will have his freedom and will have a life of a single nevertheless. The wife will be somewhere there in the background for family holydays, going to religeous ceremonies, etc. Not more. He does not need to leave her. She is not going to be a problem for his affairs.

I just feel uneasy because from his side it is a decision-he made the choice. But his wife is pure cluless and naive and just a toy in his hands (but she will be in a toy in any other's hands too; guess that how she was raised plus soft character).

Nevertheless, good luck to both!

You are afraid and nervous of being in another country alone. But yet you choose to move to Arizona, with no one, rather than New York, to at least be close to at least one person you know?

To those that believe everything you are told, I have some great land to sell you. Wanna buy? You can trust me, I am posting this on the internet so I MUST be ligit. Come one....these 2 know their culture, you don't. Why would you invest this much time and effort into getting a visa just to go along your merry way after not even living together. Do you honestly believe everyone posting on this forum is telling the truth?

ask yourself a major question:" do you still want this man even without the package?" Sounds like he is not there for you and not willing to understand you. He might be a good man but just not what you need. Cultural differences are too separating in your family. He came here. He should adjust a bit. If not willing...it is up to you to save the marriage or not. But sounds like it is not a family. Maybe he is holding to you just for GC. Maybe he does want out.....too

Well my fellow VJ"er here is the rest of the story.

Had a major talk the other night and flat out asked him what is the deal with the kids, he is allowing them to do as they please as if they were still in Colombia and not in the US. There are certain laws that pertain to Children that when I try to exlain to him he shuts me out. We have had a few problems with the little one and some books he should have read but never did over the summer. I suggested also that the 12 year old be placed in an after school program as it is not good for a 12 yr old to be running around until say 6pm when we get home. The conversation got around to differnt things about the kids and basically it ending up being that I am not allowed to be a part of their lives and end of story. I currently have no where to go so I am still in the horrible place that is supposed to be my home. I tried to understand that the kids come from a totally differnt culture however there are LAWS here and I will not risk going to Jail because his kids do what ever the heck they want.

There are problems sometimes that involve the kids who are my responsibilty and of course I am never included in any discussion however the EX is in everyhting. I asked , beg and cry for some type of communication from him and get maybe 3 words during whatever discussion we are having and the ex gets 20-30 minutes of phone time. I am so Depressed right now and do not know what to do. HELP I am dying inside

I guess sending big files with pictures and utility bills and other is what they are looking for.

Just add more staff-even e-mails, junk mail to your address-make it big folder.

OK. So we've made it this far without any RFEs. But his pisses me off.

We sent:

3 years of tax returns

Joint leases throughout our marraige

title and morgtage papers saying we bought a house together.

8 months of current utility bills

joint car insurance bills for 2.5 years

proof we are both certified to be foster parents

proof we are both members of our church

We do NOT have joint checking accounts.

So what more...besides affidavents from others (can I use friends and family?) do they want?

I'm pregnant...which really doesn't prove anything since the baby isn't born yet. But should I include that evidence as well. What else can I possibly send them.

I have read somewhere that CSC staffed much better than any other office. They just have more people working there; here is the speed of the process.

Actually - I did that. I took the percentage of populations for each of the states adjudicated by CSC and totaled them - California handles 44.05% of the population based on States and territories - which means that VSC handles 55.95% of the workload. That works if it is based on population. CSC handles caseload from 4 of the top 10 most populated states (California, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan) which provides 25.2 % of the population; VSC handles caseloads from 6 of the most populated states (Texas, New York, Florida, Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina) which equals 30.35% of the population including some of the most industrialized areas which would provide heavy employment based application workloads. I still say that the division of labour is unequal and that is part of why VSC is so swamped with work they can't process it in a reasonable time. I will admit that there is also a good degree of inefficiency involved as well.

Source of population figures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._...s_by_population

Our lawyer said that copies are good enough and no state returns are required. Plus, I think that CIS somehow connected with IRS. My friend on border while waiting for a stamp was told :" Oh, so you are a rich guy". -clearly they have checked fast his reported to IRS income. (or maybe border control is better equiped with databases/connections than CIS?/)

Some have sent in copies of their tax returns rather than transcripts and have had no issues. It probably comes down to the officer adjudicating the evidence.

I sent in my package a couple of weeks ago. I sent a copy of my return rather than transcript. It was done by our accountant and her address is on it so they may accept it, or I may get burned, hopefully not. One could use the argument that the transcripts are more legit since they prove actual filing, but neither of them are certified so who knows? Luck of the draw? I've probably jinxed myself now

You would not know if your case was touched till it is in a system. Mine still shows the next day after bio. Before that day it was invalid. Some people can see their cases in a system for about a month after bio. Their some exceptions also-I remember one OP wrote that his could see his case a few months after bio.

Dont worry.

You don't have to worry about being touched until you get your biometrics appointment.

And even then, can sometimes take a while. I did my biometrics a couple of weeks ago, my case receipt number still shows up as invalid. I'm not panicking yet seeing as it takes a while for the case status system to update (or not at all sometimes).

Have you checked the latest updated I-751 form? I havenot but heard that there an option for a waiver during separation when final divorce decree is not in hand. I have not paid attention to this topix about I-751 and waiver but if you scroll back this forum for a few month back you should find a complite description how to file in your situation. Quite a few people posted their comments from lawyers, etc.

I just remember that you should send new I-751 right away even without final decree. You should get NOA for 1 year. Once decree is final you should send it to your file. I think CIS will give you extention but will keep your case on shelf till they get final decree.

I also always mention adjudicators mannual on on CIS web. Huge document but explains all situations. If you have time to read, you should be able to find a chapter.

re-scheduled my I-751 and N-400 interview because hubby can't go with me at the interview, since we are now separated. Now I don't know if how long I will get for another interview appointment again. My question is if I will get another schedule for interview and my divorced is still in a process, just filed it 7 days ago, what's gonna happen? I know my N-400 is automatic deny but would they give me an extension until my divorced gets finalized so I can file for a waiver? or can i file a waiver and just send them the reciept that i'm in a process of divorce?

Thank you!

Conditional removal isn't a hurdle to citizenship, and in fact applying for naturalization forces it to be adjudicated at the same time if it hasn't already happened.

My understanding about N-400 and I-751... N-400 will not be adjudicated without approved I-751. The timeframe for I-751 most probably will be the same but some time savings could happen with N-400 when adjudicated at the same time. So, I would say some people could speed up a process for a few months. But I doubt that it would happen now-CIS most probably will process I-751 for about 10 mo max and probably more likely like 6-9 mo in a near future (VSC used to be 6-9 mo; very slow TSC and NSC are not processing I-751s anylonger). I just hope that N-400 will be 4-6mo like before.