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  1. A big congrats to Immibie who is taking the oath today. All the best for the future as a USC! good.gif

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    USCIS Dallas/Lewisville, Texas Lockbox
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    UserName........|Eligible|Sent....|ChkCashd|Priority|Bio.....|In Line.|Int Ltr.|Intview.|Oath....|FieldOffice
    HAPPYBERMY......|03/20/12|06/28/13|07/08/13|07/02/13|08/01/13|08/06/13|09/12/13|10/30/13|--/--/--|Tampa, FL

    BRB.............|03/09/13|07/01/13|07/08/13|07/02/13|07/31/13|08/02/13|09/06/13|10/03/13|10/28/13|Irving, TX
    GT9550A.........|10/23/12|07/01/13|07/10/13|07/13/13|08/07/13|07/26/13|10/18/13|11/26/13|--/--/--|Atlanta, GA (EB:07/22/13)
    KABHATTI........|06/29/13|07/02/13|07/11/13|07/10/13|08/12/13|08/29/13|10/12/13|11/15/13|11/22/13|Philadelphia, PA (EB:07/22/13)
    SANISH..........|05/11/13|07/02/13|07/11/13|07/09/13|07/30/13|08/02/13|08/19/13|10/03/13|--/--/--|San Antonio, TX
    ME&HER..........|--/--/--|07/03/13|07/11/13|--/--/--|08/09/13|08/02/13|08/12/13|09/18/13|01/02/14|Washington, DC (EB: 7/29/13)
    LARAREYES.......|06/24/13|07/03/13|-WAIVER-|07/09/13|08/06/13|08/22/13|10/10/13|11/12/13|11/22/13|Miami, FL
    DONALD-N-ANALYN.|03/19/13|07/03/13|07/11/13|07/09/13|--/--/--|08/08/13|--/--/--|09/26/13|10/11/13|Orlando, FL
    LAURARAJESH.....|--/--/--|07/08/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|07/31/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Lubbock, TX
    CINMA...........|06/20/05|07/09/13|07/15/13|07/11/13|11/14/13|11/18/13|12/03/13|01/06/14|--/--/--|Lawrence,MA
    MOMOV31.........|07/05/13|07/11/13|07/17/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Atlanta, GA

    PBNJ............|--/--/--|07/15/13|07/23/13|07/18/13|08/08/13|08/12/13|08/19/13|10/08/13|11/27/13|San Antonio, TX
    PD: 03/20/2011..|12/18/12|07/15/13|07/23/13|07/19/13|08/20/13|09/20/13|10/05/13|11/05/13|--/--/--|New York, NY
    JAMERICANLOVE...|07/03/13|07/22/13|07/29/13|07/24/13|08/22/13|09/03/13|11/09/13|12/12/13|01/03/13|Atlanta, GA (EB:08/08/13)
    OLEHANDRO.......|07/28/13|07/26/13|08/01/13|07/29/13|08/27/13|09/26/13|--/--/--|11/07/13|--/--/--|Philadelphia, PA (EB:08/12/13)
    CHURAWAN........|07/13/13|07/29/13|08/02/13|--/--/--|10/23/10|10/02/13|--/--/--|12/04/13|--/--/--|Boston, MA (EB:09/30/13)

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    USCIS Phoenix, Arizona Lockbox
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    UserName........|Eligible|Sent....|ChkCashd|Priority|Bio.....|In Line.|Int Ltr.|Intview.|Oath....|FieldOffice

    GEEKFAMILY......|09/27/13|06/28/13|CASHIERS|07/02/13|07/26/13|08/27/13|09/04/13|10/08/13|10/17/13|Chicago, IL
    MATT & BING.....|09/15/12|07/01/13|07/09/13|07/03/13|07/25/13|07/29/13|12/07/13|01/07/14|--/--/--|Detroit, MI
    RPRR............|06/30/13|07/01/13|CASHIERS|07/03/13|08/01/13|08/05/13|08/14/13|09/11/13|09/11/13|Honolulu, HI
    ADRIANA WATSON..|05/12/12|07/02/13|CASHIERS|07/08/13|07/26/13|07/31/13|08/06/13|09/09/13|10/11/13|Las Vegas, NV

    DR.A O........|06/19/13|07/03/13|-WAIVER-|07/15/13|09/03/13|09/05/13|10/21/13|11/25/13|11/26/13|Portland, OR
    HOMESWEETHOME...|01/15/13|07/06/13|07/12/13|07/15/13|07/30/13|--/--/--|08/09/13|09/10/13|11/22/13|St. Louis, MO
    RYAN_AND_PRISCY.|07/10/13|07/06/13|07/12/13|--/--/--|08/06/13|--/--/--|09/20/13|10/24/13|10/31/13|Detroit, MI
    NINA80..........|06/03/13|07/07/13|-WAIVER-|07/11/13|08/07/13|08/12/13|08/31/13|09/30/13|10/22/13|Chicago, IL
    CAROLYN1161.....|11/24/08|07/10/13|07/18/13|07/17/13|08/07/13|08/09/13|09/10/13|10/15/13|11/15/13|Des Moines, IA
    JAGAMATERO......|--/--/--|07/10/13|--/--/--|07/13/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Honolulu, HI
    DER_INGENIEUR...|10/08/13|07/11/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Chicago, IL
    DPDS............|07/12/13|07/15/13|07/19/13|07/20/13|08/08/13|--/--/--|09/12/13|10/08/13|10/29/13|Phoenix, AZ

    IMMIBIE.........|07/17/13|07/17/13|07/24/13|07/19/13|08/09/13|09/23/13|--/--/--|10/29/13|12/12/13|Boise, ID

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    USCIS Lincoln, Nebraska Lockbox (Filing Under 319b, 328, or 329 of the INA)
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  2. Updating my oath ceremony date.

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    USCIS Dallas/Lewisville, Texas Lockbox

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    UserName........|Eligible|Sent....|ChkCashd|Priority|Bio.....|In Line.|Int Ltr.|Intview.|Oath....|FieldOffice

    HAPPYBERMY......|03/20/12|06/28/13|07/08/13|07/02/13|08/01/13|08/06/13|09/12/13|10/30/13|--/--/--|Tampa, FL

    BRB.............|03/09/13|07/01/13|07/08/13|07/02/13|07/31/13|08/02/13|09/06/13|10/03/13|10/28/13|Irving, TX

    GT9550A.........|10/23/12|07/01/13|07/10/13|07/13/13|08/07/13|07/26/13|10/18/13|11/26/13|--/--/--|Atlanta, GA (EB:07/22/13)

    KABHATTI........|06/29/13|07/02/13|07/11/13|07/10/13|08/12/13|08/29/13|10/12/13|11/15/13|11/22/13|Philadelphia, PA (EB:07/22/13)

    SANISH..........|05/11/13|07/02/13|07/11/13|07/09/13|07/30/13|08/02/13|08/19/13|10/03/13|--/--/--|San Antonio, TX

    ME&HER..........|--/--/--|07/03/13|07/11/13|--/--/--|08/09/13|08/02/13|08/12/13|09/18/13|01/02/14|Washington, DC (EB: 7/29/13)

    LARAREYES.......|06/24/13|07/03/13|-WAIVER-|07/09/13|08/06/13|08/22/13|10/10/13|11/12/13|11/22/13|Miami, FL

    DONALD-N-ANALYN.|03/19/13|07/03/13|07/11/13|07/09/13|--/--/--|08/08/13|--/--/--|09/26/13|10/11/13|Orlando, FL

    LAURARAJESH.....|--/--/--|07/08/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|07/31/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Lubbock, TX

    CINMA...........|06/20/05|07/09/13|07/15/13|07/11/13|11/14/13|11/18/13|12/03/13|01/06/14|--/--/--|Lawrence,MA

    MOMOV31.........|07/05/13|07/11/13|07/17/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Atlanta, GA

    PBNJ............|--/--/--|07/15/13|07/23/13|07/18/13|08/08/13|08/12/13|08/19/13|10/08/13|11/27/13|San Antonio, TX

    PD: 03/20/2011..|12/18/12|07/15/13|07/23/13|07/19/13|08/20/13|09/20/13|10/05/13|11/05/13|--/--/--|New York, NY

    JAMERICANLOVE...|07/03/13|07/22/13|07/29/13|07/24/13|08/22/13|09/03/13|11/09/13|12/12/13|01/03/13|Atlanta, GA (EB:08/08/13)

    OLEHANDRO.......|07/28/13|07/26/13|08/01/13|07/29/13|08/27/13|09/26/13|--/--/--|11/07/13|--/--/--|Philadelphia, PA (EB:08/12/13)

    CHURAWAN........|07/13/13|07/29/13|08/02/13|--/--/--|10/23/10|10/02/13|--/--/--|12/04/13|--/--/--|Boston, MA (EB:09/30/13)

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    USCIS Phoenix, Arizona Lockbox

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    UserName........|Eligible|Sent....|ChkCashd|Priority|Bio.....|In Line.|Int Ltr.|Intview.|Oath....|FieldOffice

    GEEKFAMILY......|09/27/13|06/28/13|CASHIERS|07/02/13|07/26/13|08/27/13|09/04/13|10/08/13|10/17/13|Chicago, IL

    MATT & BING.....|09/15/12|07/01/13|07/09/13|07/03/13|07/25/13|07/29/13|12/07/13|01/07/14|--/--/--|Detroit, MI

    RPRR............|06/30/13|07/01/13|CASHIERS|07/03/13|08/01/13|08/05/13|08/14/13|09/11/13|09/11/13|Honolulu, HI

    ADRIANA WATSON..|05/12/12|07/02/13|CASHIERS|07/08/13|07/26/13|07/31/13|08/06/13|09/09/13|10/11/13|Las Vegas, NV

    DR.A O........|06/19/13|07/03/13|-WAIVER-|07/15/13|09/03/13|09/05/13|10/21/13|11/25/13|11/26/13|Portland, OR

    HOMESWEETHOME...|01/15/13|07/06/13|07/12/13|07/15/13|07/30/13|--/--/--|08/09/13|09/10/13|11/22/13|St. Louis, MO

    RYAN_AND_PRISCY.|07/10/13|07/06/13|07/12/13|--/--/--|08/06/13|--/--/--|09/20/13|10/24/13|10/31/13|Detroit, MI

    NINA80..........|06/03/13|07/07/13|-WAIVER-|07/11/13|08/07/13|08/12/13|08/31/13|09/30/13|10/22/13|Chicago, IL

    CAROLYN1161.....|11/24/08|07/10/13|07/18/13|07/17/13|08/07/13|08/09/13|09/10/13|10/15/13|11/15/13|Des Moines, IA

    JAGAMATERO......|--/--/--|07/10/13|--/--/--|07/13/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Honolulu, HI

    DER_INGENIEUR...|10/08/13|07/11/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Chicago, IL

    DPDS............|07/12/13|07/15/13|07/19/13|07/20/13|08/08/13|--/--/--|09/12/13|10/08/13|10/29/13|Phoenix, AZ

    IMMIBIE.........|07/17/13|07/17/13|07/24/13|07/19/13|08/09/13|09/23/13|--/--/--|10/29/13|12/12/13|Boise, ID

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    USCIS Lincoln, Nebraska Lockbox (Filing Under 319b, 328, or 329 of the INA)

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  3. Thank you Nightingale and OM and everyone else who had kind words for me. I passed the interview and will have the oath on January 3rd. kicking.gif

    I left home early just in case there was any traffic and it's a good thing I did because there was an accident on the highway and two lanes were blocked. I got to USCIS Atlanta office at approximately 7:00am and I sat in the car and listened to the whole test CD and practice the questions. At 7:30am I went to the front door and went through security which took not time at all since only one person was in front of me. I then went to the check in counter where they checked my papers, gave me a number and told me to head to the third floor. Upstairs, I put my my interview letter in a tray and sat down until my number was called. A nice young lady took my fingerprints and picture and I went back to my seat.

    I got called for the interview at approximately 8:30 and a nice Asian gentleman had me follow him to his office. He then told me to put down my belongings and raise my right hand and swear to tell the truth. He told me to put my passports, green card and drivers license in a little tray on his table, however he never looked at any of them. The interview began with him asking me questions about the kind of work I do (I'm self-employed) and he seemed very interested in That, so we chatted a bit about it and then he moved on to the form. He asked me several questions from the information on there like my SS#, phone number, address, how many times I was married, how many kids I have, etc etc. Then when he got to the end he asked me if I was willing to pledge to the flag and the US and take up arms if necessary. To all of these I said yes.

    Next he moved on to the history questions. I got the first six correct.

    1. What is freedom of religion?

    2. What is the name of the ocean to the east of the US?

    3. What age do you register for selective service? (He asked me if I registered. I laughed and said "No"...he smiled and said "Why?" And I said "Because I'm female"...he smiled and moved on)

    4. When was the constitution written?

    5. What was one of the factors that contributed to the civil war?

    6. Name a state that borders Canada.

    Then he asked me to read: Who is on the dollar bill? (and then he asked me if I knew the answer and I said "George Washington"

    He then asked me to write: Washington is on dollar

    Then he asked me to sit tight for about 5 minutes while he did some paper work. I sat and watched him staple, mark, stamp, flip, read, write and work my file over a few times before he whipped out a big stamp and placed "Approved" on my file. He then gave me a sheet of paper saying that I passed the history, reading and writing and he was recommending me for approval. The interview itself took about 15 minutes.

    He then told me to gather my things but stay seated until he could confirm that I could collect my oath letter immediately. He sent an email off to someone, made a phone call and then told me to go downstairs to the second floor and wait to hear my name called. He shook my hand, wished me good luck and I went downstairs. I sat there playing with my phone for about 45 minutes before another gentleman called my name and handed me the oath letter. I was on my way home at approximately 9:30am.

    It was a good experience and I can't wait to take the oath and become another proud USC. yes.gif

  4. Fixing format....

    Congrats on your interview date Matt&Bing!

    Jagamatero....I'm SO sorry that this is happening to you. It was very strange that so much time had passed with no progress. I really hope that now that the problem has been identified you can finally see some movement with your case. I suspect you will be scheduled very quickly after your biometrics. I would try to do a walk in as soon as you have the letter in hand.

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    USCIS Dallas/Lewisville, Texas Lockbox

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    UserName........|Eligible|Sent....|ChkCashd|Priority|Bio.....|In Line.|Int Ltr.|Intview.|Oath....|FieldOffice

    HAPPYBERMY......|03/20/12|06/28/13|07/08/13|07/02/13|08/01/13|08/06/13|09/12/13|10/30/13|--/--/--|Tampa, FL

    BRB.............|03/09/13|07/01/13|07/08/13|07/02/13|07/31/13|08/02/13|09/06/13|10/03/13|10/28/13|Irving, TX

    GT9550A.........|10/23/12|07/01/13|07/10/13|07/13/13|08/07/13|07/26/13|10/18/13|11/26/13|--/--/--|Atlanta, GA (EB:07/22/13)

    KABHATTI........|06/29/13|07/02/13|07/11/13|07/10/13|08/12/13|08/29/13|10/12/13|11/15/13|11/22/13|Philadelphia, PA (EB:07/22/13)

    SANISH..........|05/11/13|07/02/13|07/11/13|07/09/13|07/30/13|08/02/13|08/19/13|10/03/13|--/--/--|San Antonio, TX

    ME&HER..........|--/--/--|07/03/13|07/11/13|--/--/--|08/09/13|08/02/13|08/12/13|09/18/13|--/--/--|Washington, DC (EB: 7/29/13)

    LARAREYES.......|06/24/13|07/03/13|-WAIVER-|07/09/13|08/06/13|08/22/13|10/10/13|11/12/13|11/22/13|Miami, FL

    DONALD-N-ANALYN.|03/19/13|07/03/13|07/11/13|07/09/13|--/--/--|08/08/13|--/--/--|09/26/13|10/11/13|Orlando, FL

    LAURARAJESH.....|--/--/--|07/08/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|07/31/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Lubbock, TX

    CINMA...........|06/20/05|07/09/13|07/15/13|07/11/13|11/14/13|11/18/13|12/03/13|01/06/14|--/--/--|Lawrence,MA

    MOMOV31.........|07/05/13|07/11/13|07/17/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Atlanta, GA

    PBNJ............|--/--/--|07/15/13|07/23/13|07/18/13|08/08/13|08/12/13|08/19/13|10/08/13|11/27/13|San Antonio, TX

    PD: 03/20/2011..|12/18/12|07/15/13|07/23/13|07/19/13|08/20/13|09/20/13|10/05/13|11/05/13|--/--/--|New York, NY

    JAMERICANLOVE...|07/03/13|07/22/13|07/29/13|07/24/13|08/22/13|09/03/13|11/09/13|12/12/13|--/--/--|Atlanta, GA (EB:08/08/13)

    OLEHANDRO.......|07/28/13|07/26/13|08/01/13|07/29/13|08/27/13|09/26/13|--/--/--|11/07/13|--/--/--|Philadelphia, PA (EB:08/12/13)

    CHURAWAN........|07/13/13|07/29/13|08/02/13|--/--/--|10/23/10|10/02/13|--/--/--|12/04/13|--/--/--|Boston, MA (EB:09/30/13)

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    USCIS Phoenix, Arizona Lockbox

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    UserName........|Eligible|Sent....|ChkCashd|Priority|Bio.....|In Line.|Int Ltr.|Intview.|Oath....|FieldOffice

    GEEKFAMILY......|09/27/13|06/28/13|CASHIERS|07/02/13|07/26/13|08/27/13|09/04/13|10/08/13|10/17/13|Chicago, IL

    MATT & BING.....|09/15/12|07/01/13|07/09/13|07/03/13|07/25/13|07/29/13|12/07/13|01/07/14|--/--/--|Detroit, MI

    RPRR............|06/30/13|07/01/13|CASHIERS|07/03/13|08/01/13|08/05/13|08/14/13|09/11/13|09/11/13|Honolulu, HI

    ADRIANA WATSON..|05/12/12|07/02/13|CASHIERS|07/08/13|07/26/13|07/31/13|08/06/13|09/09/13|10/11/13|Las Vegas, NV

    DR.A O........|06/19/13|07/03/13|-WAIVER-|07/15/13|09/03/13|09/05/13|10/21/13|11/25/13|11/26/13|Portland, OR

    HOMESWEETHOME...|01/15/13|07/06/13|07/12/13|07/15/13|07/30/13|--/--/--|08/09/13|09/10/13|11/22/13|St. Louis, MO

    RYAN_AND_PRISCY.|07/10/13|07/06/13|07/12/13|--/--/--|08/06/13|--/--/--|09/20/13|10/24/13|10/31/13|Detroit, MI

    NINA80..........|06/03/13|07/07/13|-WAIVER-|07/11/13|08/07/13|08/12/13|08/31/13|09/30/13|10/22/13|Chicago, IL

    CAROLYN1161.....|11/24/08|07/10/13|07/18/13|07/17/13|08/07/13|08/09/13|09/10/13|10/15/13|11/15/13|Des Moines, IA

    JAGAMATERO......|--/--/--|07/10/13|--/--/--|07/13/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Honolulu, HI

    DER_INGENIEUR...|10/08/13|07/11/13|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|--/--/--|Chicago, IL

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  5. You too - I see yours is next week!

    I heard nothing for a long time then everything seemed to happen quite quickly. I would have liked to have been finished by December, but I really can't complain.

    Yes. Only 6 days to go! Any movement is good movement as far as I'm concerned. It does seem sometimes like it's an endless wait though.

    If you consider how much time we spend really doing anything (filling out forms, checking mail, biometrics, interview and oath) the process actually only takes a few hours. laughing.gif

    And yes, that's me being ridiculous.... jest.gif January is right around the corner. You're almost at the finish line!

  6. Heard nothing from USCIS after the yellow letter I got almost two months ago. I am really frustrated now. Am I the only one from the July filers who's in this situation? cray5ol.gif

    Have you called and asked a tier 2 officer about your case? I would suggest you do that first thing in the morning. Two month is kind of long to not have an interview letter after the yellow letter has arrived. If you can't get any information from an IO, schedule an infopass and go in to your closest office to speak to someone.

  7. I'm not in NY so am not familiar with your USCIS office but I don't remember ever seeing that cameras can't be brought to oath ceremonies. That's a special time for immigrants and it's understandable that most will want to keep a memory of the moment. As for your wife coming along, I'm not sure about that either. You should bring your camera anyway even if your wife doesn't end up going. You can ask someone at the ceremony to take your pic. All the best to you!

  8. You guys will get scheduled for oath soon. I think if you are not approved right on the spot sometimes it takes a while before they find a slot to put you in. From what I seen it happens sometimes even for people who are approved during interview. Just hold tight and you will get your oath letters soon. good.gif

  9. I called Tier 2 Officer told me i was approved , but no change on website and no Oath for me yet =(

    That's great Olehandro! You can rest easy knowing you've been approved. They will scheduled you for oath as soon as there is an opening. You should be happy! All you have left to do it take your oath and get your passport. good.gif

  10. Like the poster above said, once your wife becomes a citizen and both of the kids are still under 18 years they automatically become citizens as well. However, you will have to get a N-600 or passport for each of them as proof of this. If one or both of the children are over 18 on the day their mother takes the oath, they must apply for citizenship on their own.

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