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  1. But a public figure should (and will) hear from their constituents - good or bad.

    There is a difference between bringing up criticisms of how they are representing their constituency and letting loose with what I consider disgusting personal attacks.

    It would be classy if the Clinton camp could make a statement denouncing such behavior.

    I agree! Hopefuly they will!

  2. I am asking you without any name calling,

    Now what comment needs backing up?

    That we rely on oil?

    How much has been spent on the war?

    That many other countries, besides iraq and afgan have jihadists?

    The Us is a big chunk of their oil profit?

    I have said many things inmy post, and I am asking you what specific comment do you need to be backed up?

    and all of that is connected. right. i see canada and venezuela making war on us :rolleyes:

    ME countries hate the US, they believe the US is "evil". Canada and venezuela dont feel that way.

    maybe not canada, but i don't think venezuela is very fond of us. at least hugo thinks bush "smells like sulfur"

    :lol:

  3. I am asking you without any name calling,

    Now what comment needs backing up?

    That we rely on oil?

    How much has been spent on the war?

    That many other countries, besides iraq and afgan have jihadists?

    The Us is a big chunk of their oil profit?

    I have said many things inmy post, and I am asking you what specific comment do you need to be backed up?

    and all of that is connected. right. i see canada and venezuela making war on us :rolleyes:

    ME countries hate the US, they believe the US is "evil". Canada and venezuela dont feel that way.

  4. I am asking you without any name calling,

    Now what comment needs backing up?

    That we rely on oil?

    How much has been spent on the war?

    That many other countries, besides iraq and afgan have jihadists?

    The Us is a big chunk of their oil profit?

    I have said many things inmy post, and I am asking you what specific comment do you need to be backed up?

  5. dont try to cause confusion, just cause you look stupid now!

    nothing can make you look worse as you wiggle about. so far all you've done is prove to be insulting without one single bit of proof to back up your statement.

    first it's oil

    now it's money

    what's next?

    And who have I unsulted? if you read my other posts, you wouldnt say that, as a matter of fact I have tried to keep things civil, but of coarce you didnt read! What proof would you like, just ask and I will provide??

  6. you mean exxon is leading the jihad?

    btw, i've yet to see any jihadist blow themself up while attached to a barrel of oil.

    charlesandnessa Wow, you dont know much do you, you have really told on yourself!!

    As I have said before, People need to realize that the major weapon of the current Jihad is money,not money that they have earned, but for the most part money that comes from an accident of geology. OIL

    The way to stop them from attacking is to take the money away, and lets be honest we are a big chunk of the money.

    The money spent in Iraq might instead be spent on an energy program to deprive the Saudis and Ahmadinejad,and others of the wherewithal that is critical to the Jihad.I believe that the $2 trillion spent in Iraq would have been better spent on solar and wind projects, and on nuclear reactors. Oil is their most dangerous weapon, and our dependency is giving them assurance that their guns will always be loaded.

    Jihad is worldwide not just in afgan. and iraq. This does not require "the troops boots on their ground" here and there and everywhere. Not at all. It requires diminishing their oil revenues.

  7. Top 10 Reasons Not to Vote for McCain

    posted by Linda

    by Don Feder

    I just got back from the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, D.C., where conservatives began lining up behind a man who’s been sticking it to us for years. By a process of self-hypnosis, many have managed to convince themselves that McCain is actually one of us.

    Not for nothing did Benjamin Disraeli call conservatives the stupid party.

    What part of John McCain do we not get? McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Edwards — among other socialist, anti-speech, open-borders, enviro-Marxist measures he’s co-sponsored with the hardcore left of the Democratic Party over the years.

    If Il Duce had served with him in the United States Senate, there would be McCain-Mussolini.

    The moment Mitt Romney “suspended” his campaign and McCain became inevitable, the squawking began: “You mean you’d actually prefer Hillary or Obama (judges)? At least McCain is pro-life (judges). He’s a war hero who’ll ably lead us in the War on Terrorism (judges). Did we mention that he’ll appoint conservative judges?”

    Before the chorus of amnesiac Chicken Littles drowns out the voices of reason, here are 10 reasons why conservatives should sever their right hands at the wrist before they pull the McCain lever in November…

    1. Immigration – He’s not just pro-open borders, he’s Senor Amnesty – co-sponsor of McCain-Kennedy, which would have legalized 15 million illegal aliens, allowed them to bring in tens of millions of their mooching relatives (including the elderly and infirm), given them credit for past Social Security contributions, etc. The Heritage Foundation’s Robert Rector said McCain-Kennedy would have constituted the largest expansion of the welfare state in U.S. history (at an estimated cost of $2.6 trillion). A Republican who served with McNasty in the Senate said he was forever haranguing his GOP colleagues about being perceived as “xenophobes” for not supporting amnesty. At CPAC, he told conservatives he’s heard us. He’ll secure the borders first, then push amnesty – which, of course, will negate anything he does at the border. Build it (a suicidal welfare state that embraces alien intruders), and a fence won’t keep them out.

    2. Multiculturalism – If his advocacy of open borders wasn’t enough, McCain has also opposed official English and supported bi-lingual education (two more issues where he’s out-of-step with the overwhelming majority of his countrymen). McCain even voted for an amendment that would have codified Clinton’s Executive Order 13166, requiring recipients of federal funding, like hospitals, to provide translation services in any language requested. (When it comes to pandering, cost is no object.) No wonder he’s a hero to LULAC (the separatist League of United Latin American Citizens), Geraldo Rivera and Juan Hernandez (his Hispanic outreach director, who says he’d like 7th. generation Mexican-Americans to think of themselves as Mexicans first). Look for President McCain to make Cinco de Mayo a national holiday, give his inaugural address in Arabic and light an annual Kwanza whatever on the White House lawn.

    3. Enviro-Marxism – McCain’s supporters think he’s just the man to lead America in the War on Terrorism. What’s the principal weapon of terrorist states? Oil. What does McCain want to keep America from producing more of? Oil. In 2003, McCain was one of only 6 Republican senators to vote against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. For McCain, keeping America dependent on Middle Eastern oil is a small price to pay to make the caribou comfortable. He’s also the proud co-sponsor of McCain-Lieberman – a $660 billion monument to the myth of man-made global warming (an industry-killing cap on CO2 emissions), which would annihilate tens of thousands of American jobs and make us far less competitive. By what twisted logic does open borders, crippling U.S. industry and energy dependence equal national security?

    4. Class Warfare – In the recent debate at the Reagan Library, McCain called Romney a “manager for profits” (would he prefer a businessman who managed for losses?) who has “laid people off” – thus demonstrating how little the Senator understands the market economy. Jobs aren’t permanent — except for those who’ve served in the Senate for 21 years — and sometimes they have to disappear so others can be created. In 2001, McCain was one of only two Republican Senators to vote against the Bush tax cuts. In 2003, he was one of only three. Now, he says it’s because there weren’t matching spending cuts. Then he called them “tax cuts for the rich.” This comes from a man who never held a private-sector job and made his money the old-fashioned way – by marrying an heiress whose father subsidized his early campaigns.

    5. Abortion – McCain’s vaunted pro-life voting record reflects the views of his Arizona constituents more than any real commitment. He supports subsidies for embryonic stem-cell research. In 2000, he told the San Francisco Examiner that “certainly in the short term, even in the long-term I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade.” (He later reversed himself under pro-life pressure.) Most critics view McCain-Feingold as an assault on the First Amendment, which it certainly is. It’s also one of the most destructive anti-life measures ever enacted by Congress. Under this so-called Campaign Finance Reform, a pro-life group can’t run ads criticizing the record of a pro-abortion legislator within 60 days of a general election or 30 days of a primary. Needless to say, there’s no similar gag-rule for McCain’s buddies in the mainstream media. Elsewhere on the family-values front, McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. He says it’s because he wants states to decide the definition of marriage (the only instance in which he’s on record favoring federalism), which is the same as saying he wants activist judges to decide.

    6. Judicial Nominations – Though McCain denies it, columnist Robert Novak swears the frontrunner told him prior to confirmation of Justice Samuel Alito that the nominee was too conservative, and that he preferred those who “didn’t wear their conservatism on their sleeve” (like Sandra Day O’Connor and Anthony Kennedy?). McCain was also part of the Gang of 14 which prevented a rules change that would have stopped unconstitutional filibusters on judicial nominations. Former New Hampshire Senator Warren Rudman was responsible for the Supreme Court nomination of David Souter — the most disastrous Republican appointment since Earl Warren. (The play was Rudman to then-Chief of Staff John Sununu to Bush Sr.) Rudman has a prominent role in McCain’s campaign. Rudman could be President McCain’s Attorney General, giving him more say on judicial nominations than anyone other than the president. In his 1996 book, Rudman wrote that Christian conservatives include in their ranks “enough anti-abortion zealots, would-be censors, homophobes, bigots and latter-day Elmer Gantrys to discredit any party that is unwise enough” to align itself with them. With Warren Rudman at his side, it’s anyone’s guess whether McCain’s Supreme Court picks would be appreciably better than Clinton’s or Obama’s.

    7. War on Terrorism – We’ve already noted McCain’s support for energy dependence and his crusade for open borders. (Besides all of the rapists, drug-dealers and gang members coming across our Southern border, terrorists are also infiltrating the United States due to the de facto surrender of national sovereignty.) McCain wants to close Guantanamo and give terrorists the same rights as enemy combatants. He opposes tough interrogation techniques that leave no scars, but have elicited the intelligence that has saved American lives. (Personally, I’d use thumbscrews and the iron maiden on this scum.) A McCain anti-terrorism policy is more likely to be shaped by his friends at the ACLU and The New York Times than by the Center for Security Policy.

    8. McPsycho – McCain is famous for going postal on his Republican colleagues — dropping the F-word, calling them f—ing idiots and worse. His dangerous inability to control his temper comes from a God-complex and an ingrained contempt for other human beings. One of his colleagues commented, “I don’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.” Given his mental state, McCain could end up nuking Terre Haute instead of Tehran.

    9. Reaching Across the Aisle – This is media-speak for a Republican sell-out who conspires with the left. McCain doesn’t reach across the aisle – he leaps. Former Senator Rick Santorum discloses: “The bottom line is that I served 12 years with him (McCain), 6 years in the United States Senate as a leader, one of the leaders of the Senate – the number-3 leader – who had the responsibility of trying to put together the conservative agenda, and at almost every turn on domestic policy, John McCain was not only against us, but leading the charge on the other side.” Republican presidents who are unsure of themselves too often try to placate the other party. For McCain, working with the left is his natural inclination. He’ll turn to the Kennedys, Feingolds and Liebermans not as a last resort, but as a first.

    10. Rally or Roll-Over — If a Democrat takes the oath of office next January, Congressional Republicans will find their principles again. From 1993 to 1995, without a majority in either House, Republicans fought Bill Clinton to a legislative standstill. They went on to win the House and Senate in the 1994 election — for the first time in 40 years – and to hold both for a decade. If McCain is elected, it will be roll-over time for Congressional Republicans – on taxes, regulation, environmentalism, speech-suppression, internationalism, multiculturalism, civil liberties for terrorists and open-borders. (When it comes to arm-twisting, Captain Queeg would make Bush look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.) This time, instead of losing power for a few years, the party could be permanently discredited.

    Ultimately, all of this is academic. McCain’s chances of becoming the next president are none – and none. Since 1964, Republicans have won 7 of 10 presidential elections. They lost in 1976, 1992 and 1996. Each time, the party was saddled with a standard-bearer – Ford, Bush ’41, Dole – that a large part of the base couldn’t stand.

    The American people are basically conservative. At some point, the Democrats always give away the game – expose themselves as the party of socialism, pacifism, racial-pandering and treason. They only win when Republicans sound an uncertain trumpet. McCain is a kazoo played by an asthmatic.

    McCain is also old, abrasive and unlovable. (It was said of Bob Dole, another war hero, that he couldn’t sell beer on a troop ship. McCain couldn’t give it away.) Once the Democrats pick their nominee, McCain’s media cheerleaders will pack up their pompoms and move to the other side of the field.

    President Bush – he of “compassionate conservatism,” mega-spending hikes and Hamas statehood– has just announced that John McCain is a “true conservative.”

    I rest my case.

  8. Personally I wont do it till a later age, propobly when he or she begins school, I truly do believe that vaccines have something to do with autism, maybe the effects are different on different children, there are thousands of reasons of why that is. But if decreasing the chances of my child being autistic takes me being extra extra careful, then so be it. But when he or she begins school and are around many children (many infecious diseases) then I would vaccine.

  9. My question and comment to all of the McCain supporters, why have you all focused solely on Obama and his pastor, and saying such uneducated comments to make him sound like a terrorist. But none of you want to talk real politics, defrentiating the 2 politically rather than with uneducated hateful remarks that in my opnion belong in a KKK forum.

    This truly strenghtens my vote for obama, because it shows me that this is the only flaw you find with Obama, and some of you are not big enough to commend obama on his achievements as obama supporters commend Mccain on his.

    There are many reasons to dislike an Obama presidency. His far left record and total lack of understanding in the area of international affairs are the biggest. He also has a one page resume. In short, he isn't ready. This stuff only strengthens the contention that he has very poor judgment in regards to choosing his friends and advisor's. It makes us wonder what kind of advisor's he will choose should he make it. The idea that people like this will be giving him counsel when he makes important decisions is real cause for worry and a valid issue.

    He understands international affairs alot better than McCain. He understands that the jihadists majour weapon is oil. McCain understands things just as much as Bush does, that is why he will continue all that bush is doing. Why is his judgement bad,? because of his pastor, what about mccains pastor.? Doesnt that make you question Mccains judgement?

    And as I have said before Mccain supporters only have the pastor as Amo. And if you want to speak of judgement lets not forget who opposed the war, Obama, in which he was right. and lets not forget who opposed spending tax payers money to hold the Iraq elections,which led to the worst possible outcome, that is now a bigger threat to the US. Or have you forgotten about that gary? Obama is the one to oppose these things, which Mccain has suppoted. Obama's judgement is obviously excelent, I will not vote for any Bush like judgement.

    And Gary and all mccain supporters does integrity not mean anything to you to you, have you for gotten that he a member of the "Keating Five scandal" And do you really trust this man with the economy, Hell the guy's own campaign went broke. Shouldn't that tell us something?

  10. Changing set ways usually encounters some resistance. To be honest I don't see Obama completing most of what he says. He'll hopefully try and get enough momentum to follow through... without interference from those seeking to maintain the business-as-usual game.

    what has he stated that he would do if he is president, that is so unattainable??

  11. My question and comment to all of the McCain supporters, why have you all focused solely on Obama and his pastor, and saying such uneducated comments to make him sound like a terrorist. But none of you want to talk real politics, defrentiating the 2 politically rather than with uneducated hateful remarks that in my opnion belong in a KKK forum.

    This truly strenghtens my vote for obama, because it shows me that this is the only flaw you find with Obama, and some of you are not big enough to commend obama on his achievements as obama supporters commend Mccain on his.

    There are many reasons to dislike an Obama presidency. His far left record and total lack of understanding in the area of international affairs are the biggest. He also has a one page resume. In short, he isn't ready. This stuff only strengthens the contention that he has very poor judgment in regards to choosing his friends and advisor's. It makes us wonder what kind of advisor's he will choose should he make it. The idea that people like this will be giving him counsel when he makes important decisions is real cause for worry and a valid issue.

    He understands international affairs alot better than McCain. He understands that the jihadists majour weapon is oil. McCain understands things just as much as Bush does, that is why he will continue all that bush is doing. Why is his judgement bad,? because of his pastor, what about mccains pastor.? Doesnt that make you question Mccains judgement?

    And as I have said before Mccain supporters only have the pastor as Amo. And if you want to speak of judgement lets not forget who opposed the war, Obama, in which he was right. and lets not forget who opposed spending tax payers money to hold the Iraq elections,which led to the worst possible outcome, that is now a bigger threat to the US. Or have you forgotten about that gary? Obama is the one to oppose these things, which Mccain has suppoted. Obama's judgement is obviously excelent, I will not vote for any Bush like judgement.

  12. I will heal the planet! Lunacy? :yes:

    he's just playing the part everyone thinks of him - that he's god.

    No one believes that he will "heal the planet" its just McCain supporters are having a hard time understanding how obama supporters are becoming more and more inspired. To me Obama is the coach, all great teams start with a great coach, and during the huddle the coach can inspire and renew hope. I apologize that mcCain is not able to do the same for his supporters, his speech last night was a snooz fest!

    the metaphor of coach is great. It's not the coach who wins the game, but the players. Now my mind flashes back to old coaches who weren't so inspiring. :angry:

    I was trying to explain to people why obama supporters are so inspired. We are called some nasty names as kool aid drinkers etc etc. Inspiration is strong and it takes a person to try believe in what he says to inspire, my belief, I am a person of faith =)

  13. He was not associated with the recent priest controversy,Pfleger is a Catholic priest who was there as a guest speaker, Obama is a baptist christian

    and may I add that I dont agree with the comments that he stated about hillary, i dont beieve that politics have a place in church, church is for prayer and personal healing!

    Yep. Pfleger is on Suspension.

    Notice how the only ones making "an issue" of this are neo-cons and neo-cons in denial.

    Notice how the only one not making an issue of it are the Obama supporters and the Obama supporters in denial.

    He was not associated with the recent priest controversy,Pfleger is a Catholic priest who was there as a guest speaker, Obama is a baptist christian

    and may I add that I dont agree with the comments that he stated about hillary, i dont beieve that politics have a place in church, church is for prayer and personal healing!

    Not true. Obama has known this guy for 20 years. He even got a tax payer funded $100,000 earmark for his church.

  14. I will heal the planet! Lunacy? :yes:

    he's just playing the part everyone thinks of him - that he's god.

    No one believes that he will "heal the planet" its just McCain supporters are having a hard time understanding how obama supporters are becoming more and more inspired. To me Obama is the coach, all great teams start with a great coach, and during the huddle the coach can inspire and renew hope. I apologize that mcCain is not able to do the same for his supporters, his speech last night was a snooz fest!

  15. My question and comment to all of the McCain supporters, why have you all focused solely on Obama and his pastor, and saying such uneducated comments to make him sound like a terrorist. But none of you want to talk real politics, defrentiating the 2 politically rather than with uneducated hateful remarks that in my opnion belong in a KKK forum.

    This truly strenghtens my vote for obama, because it shows me that this is the only flaw you find with Obama, and some of you are not big enough to commend obama on his achievements as obama supporters commend Mccain on his.

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