Hey Loto,
You probably feel bad because a few people thought you're some kind of bad person giving illegal advice. I don't think that's the case, I think you had all the good intentions, and it somehow came out wrong, then it was hard to admit it. I've been there, oh boy have I ever! But now you've lived and learned and I'm sure you'll verify every post you make (even when not needed). I think you should stay, you obviously showed interest in the VJ process, and where would VJ be without its regular advice givers? I read the other thread, and I certainly did NOT think you were hostile at all. VJ is a community, and whoever lived in one knows that there will be conflicts. Sometimes the community leaders are wrong too, but we are all human, right?
Loto,
Do not give in... everyone makes mistakes and I believe that it wasn't an "Mistake" per say but rather miscommunication.... We all feel frustrated and others more so... The US government is not easy to deal with to say the least and we all need each other here on this site for one thing or another! I read the posts daily and would be lost w/o this site. Sometimes we just need to sit back and rethink what we are about to do and I hope that you do just this... Please don't leave... you are needed here and if you don't believe this. then go back and read ALL of the posts that been made that state just that!
Again, I really hope that you reconsider and are on this site for a LONG time to come!
And Loto, look at the number of people who have read your "goodbye" message and have responded. That should account for something... In yours and your spouse's interest, stay!
Don't take opinions that are here personally. This is a forum to help each other out. If someone disagrees with you, fine...its an opinion based on a persons viewpoint and experience. Why do you want to remove yourself from looking at experiences that can potentially help your case? After all, that's why we are all here, right? so we don't pay tons of money to lawyers (of which there are many and many of them of both decent folks and very good at what they do) and learn.
Sit back, read, learn, respond. Someone is bound to disagree with you, take that as a given. But do not leave. That doesn't help anybody, least of all, you and your spouse.
My 0.02 cents.
KP
Loto don't leave!! You have given lots of good advice, and you have made some of us laugh with your jokes...there are a lot of people here that you have helped and some of us are not done yet!!
Blessings!
I glanced briefly at the other thread, but you shouldn't let it get you down. It's only ONE thread, I've seen you give excellent advice in others. And what happened to your fpatience, hmm? I mean, your user name is Lotofpatience, right? So -loto = fpatience (ha.ha.)
Like other posters have said, nobody's perfect. Can't expect everyone to agree with you, right? I mean, misunderstandings happen all the time, right?
Well, whatever happens, good luck with your process, and come back soon!
You been lots of help to many here. You should stay.
By leaving you are admitting you were wrong in the other thread.
So stay and keep giving advice to those who want to hear it and not to those who dont.
LoTo id like to say ill miss you, and dont think you should quit.
I read the other thread and unless im missing something from the removed comments, i read it as a miscommunication. Itnd to me like didnt sound to me like you were telling that person to do something wrong as much as just asking what they were doing in there visa process.
I for one sure hope that the discussions here dont become these fighting matches, i look at VJ as a group of people going through the same thing together and we can all help each other get through this long and tedious process.
Just my 2cents
Stay!! I think you definitely add value to this site, I don't post a lot or comment too much because I am still learning and have not even decided on a Visa Journey yet, but I have DEFINITELY learned a lot from your posts! And we are are responsible for whatever actions we take. To learn from advice and do a little research ourselves.. so whether anyone is wrong or right , it is still up to us to use it wisely!
Thanks , hope you stay here
Sarasusan
I feel we're too hard on each other... Those of us who attempt to offer our thoughts and sometimes, we offer bad advise.. Let's keep this in perspective.. We aren't lawyers, but keep in mind that even lawyers offer bad and even illegal advise with the intention of lining thier pocket books and not so much to help others.. The majority of people on this forum have only sincere intentions to help.. We often are jumped on by other VJ'rs but nevertheless, the intentions are sincere..
I disagree with the way this whole issue was handled by katheryn, her response may have been a little too harsh. It is good the moderators point out when bad advice is given.. It may have been better handled a diferent way..
Dont Forget, This is a Free Forum that all can participate.. Unless VJ want's to restrict everyone from offering advice unless we meet some sort of prequalification, we just have to expect that some responses will be bad advise... However, people can and do benefit from VJ in a HUGE way.. I won't be the only once who'll say this, but for me, there is no possible way I would have gotten as far as I've gotten without the help of all of you.. I am extremely grateful for this forum... But I do realize, sometimes, I might get some bad information, so I need to review other resources as well.. I beleive my situation is typical across most others on this forum...
Loto, Please take this for what its worth, I appreciate you starting this thread, because, I think some have lost perspective, so this thread is a opportunity to discuss that..
I consider everyone here as a friend, that doesn't mean that I dont have a life, it's just is a testiment of the good people I've met though various discussions and the motives each of us have here are simply to help each other thought this process..
Kenny
Hello All
I had a great opportunity Saturday evening to have dinner with and spend several hours with a director at the VSC. He is currently in charge of the department that handles I-751s among other things. His wife is an adjusicator that handles YOUR petition (if it went through VSC). His wife is Russian, arrived on a K-1 and is now a citizen. This man has worked for USCIS for many years and was at several local offices before being assigned to the VSC. His wife is a friend of Alla's and we were all at a dinner party for several American/Russian/Ukrainian couples Saturday. We had a long chat, he was very open and helpful. We talked about a lot of the things we see here on VJ and I was trying to remember all the "usual questions" I read about and pin him down for some answers. I also have asked him if he will give an "official interview" for VJ. He said he will check out the site and I will call him later this week. So, anyway I will try to cover what we discussed, he was quite frank and direct in his answers, not rude, not at all, but he knows his stuff and answers without hesitation. It turned into an impromtu and fun "interview" with me trying to remember all the hot button issues I see on VJ
I told him that the number ONE and number TWO "complaints" I see are Why is the VSC taking so long and why can't we get through to you guys?
Why is VSC taking so long, what happened? I was approved in 58 days!: We had problem with labor last year and lost many workers, we hired more last November and it took some time to get them trained. Some of the petitions were sent to California and we also assign people to different tyopes of visas. They will concentrate on one tyoe, get behind on another and then shift many people back to the other type. Lately we have shifted many, almost all, adjudicators to I-129fs, so that should make people happy. They will do that until they get caught up. Summer is a busy time for I-129fs, usually about June we get slammed with them. The winter or early spring is the slowest time for I-129fs, but then it depends what they have everyone working on also.
OK, why can't we get through to you? The 1-800 line is useless. Those are contract employees and they are trained to select answers from a menu of 14 answers. They pick which one is best for your question. There are thousands of visas being processed at any time and everyone is special and everyone has special circumstances and if we had direct lines we weould do nothing but field requests by petitioners to give them priority, we just can't do it. How would you feel if your petition got bumped because some woman called and cried on the phone and then her petition got moved up ahead of yours. We simply have to operate in a way that avoids any chance of fraud, corruption or unfairness.
So what about some people get approved ahead of others? Sme petitions have problems or delays, we do not hold back others for this. If an adjudicator has problems, he puts that one aside or sends an RFE and goes on to the next. The next one may be clean and gets approved right away, in just a few minutes, they adjudicate 15-20 petitions a day per person, and the ones with problems may wait weeks for the petitioner to respond to the RFE, or maybe it is a name check they are waiting for. Petitions are assigned as they arrive, when we are working on those petitions, but they do not go out the door in the same order they came in.
G-325a, Signed or Unsigned? Unsigned.
WHAT? Ok I have seen the memo but lots of VJ members got RFEs for unsigned G-325s, what gives? They do not have to be signed,they can be signed at the consualte interview. Some adjusicators haven't read all the memos, we get hundreds of the things, and maybe they make a mistake. If you want to be sure there is no mistake, sign it. Or send a letter expalining why it is not signed and request it be signed at the interview. Do you have that memo?
It is on the VJ website somewhere You can print a copy of that and send it with the I-129f and G-325a.
Fiancee intent letter? Signed or unsigned? Signed.
What about a faxed or emailed signature? When I was adjudicating, if I could see a signature, I accepted it, but many adjusicators will not. Signed is better.
Lawyer or no lawyer? For what?
Enough said. Now a hot issue, a very controversial one. There seems to be a trend in some countries of foreign men marrying American women and the women are considerably older. There is always a question if this is a problem. It never seems to be a problem for older men/younger women (My wife is 13 years younger, his wife is also considerable younger than him) Is it a problem? For us, USCIS, no. "Free to marry".
What about the consulates or for AOS or I-751? Consulates do what they do, it is not USCIS, some of them are bastards. Kiev is easy, they approve everyone (laughs), they used to be bastards but they got easier since they first started doing those in 2005, before then you would have had to go to Warsaw, you know. For AOS if they can prove they are legitimate we do not care about age but anything that is "not normal" for the culture will draw suspicion. They probably will not get a no questions asked interview (I had told him our AOS was "no questions asked")
What about birth certificates, some people have trouble getting them? This is a problem for us also. Some people, especially our younger staff, think all the world is like the USA. I remember one, when I was in the Kansas City office, the beneficiary was from Viet Nam, she was born in 1954 there was no birth certificate. The CO asked me about this and I looked at the file. I said "Do you know what was going on in Viet Nam in 1954?" She looked at me, straight faced and said "What, their computers were down?" If a birth certificate cannot be obtained they can usually get something from a church, a village official, something, and send that with a letter of explanation. Or just their passport and a letter explaining the situation (this applies to AOS more than I-129f as beneficiary birth certificate is not required for the petition, but I wanted to ask anyway, it seems a common question here)
What about extra documents? Proof of relationship? We don't need it, only that they have met for the fiancee visa.
What about the consulates? Consulates do what they do, as I said, some are bastards. They get whatever we get when it is sent on. I can't tell you what NVC and consulates do, I know some are terrible and some are really easy, but I do not know all the details of each. Kiev is easy, western Europe is easy, Nigeria is horrible, but you would not believe the scams from Nigeria, I get jaded. I am surprised a lot of them get visas and then we have to deal with them.
I have to ask for a collegue, Ecuador? Bastards.
What about changes? Are there any in the works? Is Obama ouching you guys to work faster? I am not sure Obama knows we exist. There have been no changes and no pressure other than the usual workload and shifting things around. I do not expect any immigration changes in the next year or two, at kleat not in rules or amnesty or anything like that. I do expect FEE INCREASES within the next year...across the board.
How much more? I cannot say, that is not my area, I just hear talk.
He added, "We try not to deny petitions, people really get angry and make lots of trouble. Denials usually come at the consulate or maybe AOS or sometimes even with the I-751. If we deny someone we need good reason, if they meet the criteria, we will approve it, they just have to give us what we need to approve them."
So how can I speed up my petition? You can't really. If it gets to be too long and if you can get a congressman or senator to call, that will get some action, but half the time those guys dont'' call or they do and the petition has only been there 3 months. Sometimes one falls through the cracks, gets overlooked, we are human. A congressman can get through and get them to dig it out if it has been too long, but I wouldn't call that "speeding it up". That's a fix for whn it is too slow.
we talked for some time more, about 5 hours altogether, briefly interrupted by Alla every now and again who had her own questions about the I-751 procedure which I posted in that forum, about VJ and other topics (his Navy days) He said he will check the site and gave me his home number. He said "call anytime but not 3 in the morning" I asked about an interview or answering prepared questions, he said possibly, he will check the site. He said many internet sites are advertisement for immigration attorneys or instructing people on how to pull scams, I assured him he would be very pleased with VJ and he thinks it is great that there is a good site for information and advice. (he never heard of VJ before this)
I can also say, that speaking to him, I heard so many of the same buzzwords or advice that I have seen right here, this is really a great site with some great folks giving some really great info.
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