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Thanks for sharing, Buck.
It's nice to have recent first-hand info. Good luck with the interview.... Standing by for that "approved" post.
Thanks for the kind words and positive thoughts Slim. Hopefully, I will be submitting an "approved post" on Monday when they have their interview. Don't anticipate any problems. In fact, I don't recall ever reading about a denied VISA on the russian forum. Do you?
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Natalia and her 17-year-old son, Artem, just returned from their medical examination. They were favorably impressed with the facilities and staff at AO Meditsina. The entire process took about 3 hours.
Buck
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Great For You Kevin-!!!
Don't sweat the I-134, it may be requested but is not required. Some C/O's don't look at 75% of the documents you submit!
You are the man today! Tell Natasha and Vika I am very happy for the whole future family!
Hahaha......... Nata and I are excited for their approval almost as much as we will be for our own. Is it just me..... or has this little group sort of become like a family over the past few months?
I am now feeling deliriously giddy with vicarious visa approval feelings.
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Natasha and Vika's visa was approved today, and the consul gave the usual "you'll receive the visa in 1 week" speech, but after arriving back at the apartment Natasha noticed she did not submit the I-134 document. We went back this afternoon and turned it in to the 221G area (where we were instructed to go by the guards), but we're a little nervous now. It's difficult to believe that the woman at the window that took the documents, and the consul himself, neglected to notice that this document wasn't submitted, but we remain hopeful since the consul told Natasha the visa was approved. I'll check back the next chance I get, maybe tomorrow.
Good luck to all!
Kevin
By the way........ I have been meaning to ask you........... What is that green thing in your avatar photo? A bean bag chair?
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Natasha and Vika's visa was approved today, and the consul gave the usual "you'll receive the visa in 1 week" speech, but after arriving back at the apartment Natasha noticed she did not submit the I-134 document. We went back this afternoon and turned it in to the 221G area (where we were instructed to go by the guards), but we're a little nervous now. It's difficult to believe that the woman at the window that took the documents, and the consul himself, neglected to notice that this document wasn't submitted, but we remain hopeful since the consul told Natasha the visa was approved. I'll check back the next chance I get, maybe tomorrow.
Good luck to all!
Kevin
CONGRATULATIONS................ and as others have noted the I-134 thing shouldn't hold up your VISA at all.
NEXT STOP................. THE ..............U.......S..........OF A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks Buck! I talked to Nadya this morning and she was really excited. She said "interview in April?" and I said "I think more like May." She said "I am think April." *sigh* I'm gonna laugh if she's right, but I'm definitely not holding my breath.
Well........ our gals have amazing powers of positive thinking......... so April could be a possibility albeit a longshot. The biggest variable now is how long your petition sits in the CSC out-going mailroom which can be anywhere from 3 days to 3 weeks. It just depends...... no rhyme or reason ever given by them. I strongly doubt that you will get hung up at NVC like we did so the turn around there should just be 2 or 3 days.... then add about another 10 days or so for transmittal and receipt by Moscow. The embassy there usually schedules the interview date within a day or 2 of receipt although there is a lag of about a week before it shows up on the embassy webpage listing interview dates.
Still....... the bottom line is that you will be out of the clutches of CSC as soon as they mail your petition to NVC........ and time will move a lot faster now.
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Called USCIS this afternoon to report a fake RFE. When she said there was no RFE I did the 'ol "well as long as I have you on the phone do you think you could tell me where my case is?" At first she stuck with the "they're still working on July 19th cases" party line, but I said that last time I called I was told it was with an adjudicator and asked if she could please tell me where in the process my file was. She put me on hold for almost 5 minutes, came back, and said we were approved.
I completely did not expect that answer. At the risk of damaging my oh-so-manly image on the Russian forum, I started to ask her if I heard her right, and then sorta choked on my words. She said "alright now, don't start that because I'm going to start crying too!" So I re-grouped, asked if I had heard her right, and she said "yes, you heard me right, congratulations!" Then *she* actually started getting choked up. I told her she had just made my week, and she could hardly answer me. It was surreal.
Anyway...damn it feels great to finally be on the other side of the fence. I know there are still other fences, but they don't look quite so high...
KIRK - CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND NADYA !!!!!!!!!!!! Time will start moving very fast now. Look out Monterey
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Kirk and Roger, thank you very much. I was surprised myself that it took so long. She was just asking and asking. She even asked about our age difference and if we are comfortable with, diferences in our education, etc. But she was respectful.
The interesting thing is that the night before the interview i read the interview experience of some Russian girl on a Russian web site and she said that they didn't give her visa at once because the consul didn't like the fact that they started dating when her american fiance was still married and that he didn't pay alimony to his child. So the girl was asked in a rude manner to bring the document from the court that this american fiance and his ex had an agreement about this alimony situation or smth. And this girl also described this lady-consular and it seemed that i was interviewed by the same woman. And Jason and I had the same situation, we started dating when he was still married but legally separated. I did tell her everything in detail about it and she was satisfied.
Thank God, it's all behind us.
Sasha
CONGRATULATIONS
Natalia and I wish you much success and happiness.
Interestingly, Natalia may have spoken to the same woman on the forum for Russian women. If it is the same woman, she did get her VISA about a week later but only after her fiancee provided proof of alimony payments. Apparently, the interviewer at the consulate was a little put off by the fact that they started dating long before the divorce - i.e. there was some suspicion of a home-wrecker situation.
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Nice !!!
I'll just add to that another picture of a 'hot' Russian woman!
Hahahaha......... THAT photo I posted was my fiancee in her early law enforcement years. Boys....... shall I explain to Chuckles what is about to happen to him when Natalia reads his response (and read these she does).......... or should it be more of an "ignorance is bliss" kind of thing?
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I just returned from 26 days in Siberia with my wife. I found this thread quite something...many great photos..anecdotal stories about wives...Americanization issues...and so forth. Having just returned i have some "energy" about the posts concerning Russian wives transforming into American style slobs.
One thing that fascinates me about Nadia is seeing her take 40 minutes to do her hair and make-up just to walk to the little local grocery store (or as she calls it...the super market.) Through my American eyes, I think it's a little crazy but also I really love it about her and other Russian women I have known. And she looks so darn good when i don't expect it! It is refreshing. It is very Russian. It is a gift. I don't won't to see that change. I won't encourage her to give that up. That's Russian style and grace and it has real value for me...so assimilation be damned.
My advice to American men with sexy and beautiful Russian wives or fiancees...Enjoy it. Embrace it. The Russian ladies need to learn English and get a job...let the assimilation end there. In my judgment if an American man becomes comfortable watching his Russian lady morph into a typical American woman (the ones we see clomping into Starbucks every morning), he's maybe afraid to let his beautiful wife look sexy and alluring in public. Maybe he wants to hide that part of her...that Russian sexy and erotic and stunningly beautiful quality that's so rare to find in the USA population of women. Maybe it's our American male problem...not theirs. Maybe we're jealous or insecure or maybe we don't want to pay for the clothes and make-up. But let's go back to the beginning...let's remember why we started to look for a Russian wife.
I've heard Russian women tell me Russian men marry like to marry ugly women and have beautiful lovers on the side. Let's not join that club. Let's encourage our Russian women to honor the Russian custom of looking good for us...even if only going to the store for bread.
Thank you for your insight. Beautifully put. I will remember your words when Natalia arrives next month.
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Guys, (and gals)
Great advice on here. No time to post today although I did read it all. I'll reply tomorrow.
And now I sure wish I had some Man Chocolate!
I'm sure there's a good joke here somewhere, centered around the phrase 'Man Chocolate' - but I will resist....
Don't really know what Man Chocolate is. However, my kids sometimes refer to something as Gorilla Chocolate after observing a particularly disgusting display of animal behavior at the local zoo. I hope it's not related...........
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Well mostly it's my favorite commercial because of the shot about 5 seconds in.
hahaha..... what are you going to do when Nadya's english improves and she goes back and starts reading your old posts? I think she is going to open a big can of whupass on you.
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Oh, I'm second home sick again! I love that chocolate. Although it clearly states, "Keep from women" on the label, it never stopped my Alla from having her share.Heh. The "toilet for men" makes me think of one of my favorite Russian commercials and products, "Nestle Chocolat for men."
hahaha........ Russian chocolate is not so bad. Tried some from the former Czech republic once. It had a distinct aftertaste......... not unlike the aftertaste when one is siphoning gasoline and removes the hose too late from one's mouth.
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1) Sorry to say it, but it's not easy to find decent Russian woman/Western man couples in the US. Every female my wife met who came here on a K1 instantly grilled her about our income, cars, home, etc. They clearly had no love for their (often much) older husbands and were in it for the upscale lifestyle. Many of these women were shockingly frank about the lovers they took to fulfill their sexual needs, and my wife wanted nothing to do w/them.
Also, I'll never forget the first parties we went to at Russian homes. Always there were several unattached Russian men who hovered about, my wife explained later that they expected our marriage to be a sham and were hoping she'd be looking for a relationship on the side.
I'm sure most of you who've gotten as far as the K1 stage know that there will be plenty of American people who will be very skeptical about your relationship when she arrives. Be prepared for local Russians to share the same skepticism, only they won't be sympathetic to you.
2) Your own friends may accept her instantly but more likely they'll be skeptical about her and decide to wait and see. While my friends weren't cold to her, they were obviously waiting to see if she genuinely loved me before warming up.
Anyway, my advice would be to abandon your expectations for her in regards to friends, never pressure her and be prepared to abandon any friends who don't accept her.
My experiences followed this somewhat closely. Most Russian woman/Western man couples where as he described. Which, I suppose, doesn't sound good since that is the situation everyone here is in. I like to think you guys are ok... but from experience most where not geniune (married for the green card), and yes, more interested in your cars and what you have. We did sift through and meet a few good ones though !!!
Mmmm...... somewhat depressing but not totally unexpected. I can tell you that Natalia was not impressed by the few Russian women that she met here in the USA. I am sure that good Russian-American couples are in the minority.
Of course, all of us are hoping that we do not fit the "Pathetic Loser American Husband - Gold Digging Russian Wife" profile.
Buck
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Honestly I never cease to be surprised at how far a small gesture will go on my part, and that's with me being 6,000 miles away. I used to think my compliments were embarrassing her because she would get very quiet. I eventually figured out she was just waiting for me to keep going.
This was hard for me to get used to. I've never been comfortable with dishing out compliments, and my ex was never any good at accepting them. But I've discovered that at least with my girl that it's like verbal gold.
Me too....... me too.
One of my pet names for Natalia is "Love Sponge." She never tires of hearing love words and, fortunately for me, she is not shy about expressing her needs. She will sometimes blurt out, "Tell me how much you love me." That is my not-so-subtle cue to go into "romantic mode" and to verbalize my feelings for her....... at length. This is not the time for short pithy statements. Remember Russian toasts....... how they go on...... and on...... and on. She expects the same in the verbal love department. My feelings are very deep and I am pretty good with words...... so I give her a russian-style love toast extolling all her virtues........... characteristics, personality traits, body parts (your hair.... your eyes...... your ahem). She requires a lot of verbalization and I am more than happy to give it to her. In return, she does the same with me. It is very very nice feeling and a very welcome change. My Ex, on the other hand, was more of a "Love Black Hole." I could verbalize all I wanted but little came back in return and, as the years passed, I verbalized less and less. However, the bottom line is that words of love, spoken frequently to our Russian gals, is similar to watering a beautiful flower. The more water you give, and the more frequently you give it, the more the flower opens. At least that is my experience.
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Once again Doc Kirk, you sound like me.
After my divorce, I went from the popular guy, to... Well, I pretty much fell off the earth. Mostly because our friends, truly could not get used to me and the former apart. Still today, neither myself or the former have any of our "old" friends. We've had to make all new. It wasn't until I moved to Russia that my social status returned. Probably says a lot about me. I can see that I enjoy socializing as a couple far more than individually. And like you stated, I feel very comfortable alone when I'm alone. I don't have any need to go out. I'm fine watching a movie with a bowl of popcorn at home.
This subject is something I worry a bit for my Alla. The fact that she has her theatre background, she is used to being around "artsy" very social people. We have spoke about this many times. She told me she is wanting a change and really wants to concentrate on family. In her always interesting words, "Jeffery, I was in theatre because I had not a man in my life. I wanted excitement and not to be bored in my free time. But I have you now. I have my children. It will be enough" I do hope that she will not become overly bored here.
The doctor is in.Again, I don't have the actual experience of living with my SO yet, so I'm short on practical advice. It could very well be that 6 months from now I'll be in your situation doing a search for this thread (photo thread...must remember photo thread!) to see what other people advised.
But I think it's pretty clear that she needs to figure out a way to broaden her social circle. Again, I don't know your wife, but I have a hard time buying that it's a choice she makes. Or at least not a choice she wants to make. If it were a choice then she'd have some level of resignation to it, but that's not what I see you describing. It sounds to me like she's coming up with a lot of excuses to not make friends, and that could be a symptom of anything from shyness to clinical, but is most likely something in between. I think it's up to you and her to figure it out. Nobody *wants* to be unhappy or lonely, but many of us cling to it when we've gone through something very life-changing. I used to be a real social butterfly until after my divorce. I holed up and didn't come out for a long time. I still have a difficult time making friends now and hanging out with people. I hate that I'm not as social as I used to be, but there is a strange comfort to it too.
Anway, my 2 kopeks.
OK..... any relationship advice I give probably borders on malpractice..... but here goes. Like Kirk and Jeffrey, I also fell off the face of the earth after my 19-year marriage. All our friends (with the exception of my to-the-death fraternity brothers) were "couple friends" and just did not know what to do with me as a "third-wheel" single. My former church friends, with the exception of one man that had been divorced, totally abandoned me now that I bore the scarlet "D" of divorce. If anything, I learned who my true friends were...... and were not.
With respect to my current relationship with Natalia, I knew going in that social isolation might be a problem once she arrived. Accordingly, I developed a long-range plan. Now Natalia is a special case because she is an upscale attorney in her country and had the money and freedom to visit me in the USA. During her USA visit, she met my family and did many social things with my former couple friends..... which felt more comfortable relating to me now that I was a couple again. Natalia also speaks english well which was invaluable in her being able to relate to my friends. After she returned to Russia, Natalia also had the means to afford monthly internet service. Webcam was a Godsend in more ways than the obvious. For the past year, Natalia has been speaking on webcam once a week with my children. Natalia also has been speaking on webcam maybe 30 minutes to an hour each day with my mother. My father passed away last year and Natalia and my mom have become very close. Natalia already feels like she has a strong connection with my family even before she comes here next month. Obviously, this required a strong financial and time commitment from Natalia. However, it was well worth it and the end result is that she is already 50% plugged-in before her foot ever touches USA soil.
When Natalia arrives next month, I plan on inviting our couple friends to our home for dinner at least 1 or 2 times each month. Natalia and I will also host parties at our home maybe once a quarter or every 6 months.
My couple friends were also intitially skeptical of Natalia and our relationship. However, most of the skepticism dissipated once they met her.
Now none of this pre-arrival plug-in advice helps Slim much. His wife is already here and already feels isolated whether by personal choice or outside circumstances. Nevertheless, here is my border-line malpractice relationship advice:
1. Get her english up to conversational level if it is not there already.
2. She does not like your friends? If they are mostly beer drinking buddies, then it is probably time to expand your frienship circle to include more couples.
3. She is a snob? I can't help you there if she is truly a snob and thinks your friends are low-class. If they are low-class then it is probably time to level-up. If they are not low-class, then there is probably something else going on. Communication problems due to poor english skills? One or more of your dude friends hitting on her? The USA wives treating her like a Russian scammer ######? You will need to figure this out.
4. Once you figure out what is really going on (See Step 3), then it's time to step up and host things at your home. I can relate if this is outside your comfort level. I was a litigation attorney for 15 years. Many people find me intimidating. My basic personality can not really be described as warm and fuzzy. I am not a social guy and relating to others, especially new people, is something of a chore for me. Anyway, that is my problem and I need to get past it.
5. She is bored and lonely when you are putting in the long work hours? DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON. KG Sodie had some good advice here. Do more things, even very simple things, together.
6. Never underestimate the power of simple gestures to a Russian woman..... or any woman for that matter. Most Russian women like being presented with flowers. Every couple of weeks or so, buy a small $7 - $10 boquet at your local supermarket. Tell her frequently that you love her and that she is a "smoking-hot" babe. From your past posts, it sounds like she truly blossomed as a woman during the interim when you first met her and when she came to you in the USA. She got lots and lots of male attention it sounds like. Give her lots of compliments. Lay it on thick. What might seem a "bit much" to an american woman probably just barely scratches the surface with her.
OK...... that's probably more than enough for now.
Good Luck
Buck
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Good to hear from you again, Jason! Yep, we've been enjoying the words of your Sasha and Buck's Natalia in your absence.
I think Sasha has stated very well what I was trying to think of the words to say, Slim. Your wife chose you, and I'm sure she had plenty to choose from. I can't say for certain, and I do NOT want to make any more assumptions here than I need to, but sometimes (in my experience, anyway) if a woman isn't getting enough time from her man, she can try substituting 'stuff'. Material things. I know you work a bunch, and I respect the hell of you for that, and I understand it. On your weekends off, find some fun, cheap stuff to do. Do some window shopping and grab a shake. Plan some picnics. Make breakfast in bed. Buy a single rose (if she likes them) every week or two. Just little things. They add up and count for far more, in my estimation, than the new dress or shiny bauble. Yes, an event will come up where the new dress or shiny bauble would have been fabulous and you'll be sure to hear about it, but the disappointments will be tempered by the LOVE and the dedication and caring you demonstrate day in and day out.
Chuckles - I hear ya, and we're rowing in the same boat I think. I make a decent living, nothing too extravagant, but the bills always add up to just under the income, and Natasha doesn't understand it all yet. Some things are priced about the same here as there, but a lot of things are just more expensive. Heck, what with teaching and my regular job I drive about 60 miles a day, which isn't much but with the current price of gas (still cheaper here than most places, I know, but we've been spoiled as Americans for a very long time) that takes a big chunk. It will become clear to her I think with time and experience, and working herself and paying for things on her own.
It's amazing that as the Russian community here on VJ we've managed to somehow take this PHOTO thread and make it all about Russian culture and life and being married and, well, just everything. Personally, I love it! It's the first place I go to read every day.
Hello Slim,
I think KGSodie said some pretty good things (see above). I also know all about working 3rd shifts and putting in overtime. If you are paid on an hourly basis, I suspect your overtime wages often make the difference on whether you make it financially month-to-month. At least it did for me. However, the trade-off is that you are probably spending less time with your wife than what she expected before she came. Her calling you "Papa Karlo" sometimes is probably an indication of this. I know the time you spend at work is probably a financial necessity but that still does not help much with respect to her expectations.
As I read your posts, your wife also sounds a little isolated to me. As you said, she does not mix well with your friends and her social contacts seem to be limited to a couple of "russian friends" that she made. I do not know if she has made any real friends at her own workplace. However, I suspect your wife is very dependent on you for emotional support.
My fiancee has not arrived yet so I do not have a store of personal experience to draw on. KG Sodie said some good things. My words would not differ much from his. Little things probably count for a lot especially if you do not have time for a lot of big things due to your work schedule. However, the social isolation worries me a little (OK.... more than a little) if that is really what is happening.
Perhaps some of the guys that are already married might share some ideas of what worked for them in terms of helping their wives to feel less isolated and/or helping their wives to adjust their expectations following their arrival?
Buck
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Hi !
Kirk and Jeffery! Let me hugs both you for your words while Buck does not see.
I won't tell if you don't tell.
This time Jefferey speaks for me as well, so I don't have a lot to say.
Natalia you are a funny and charming woman. I hope you will continue to come here and tell us your thoughts. I am especially interested in hearing what your thoughts are when you finally arrive. Maybe you will have thoughts on how my Nadya and the other women will be able to adjust better, and how we men can better help our ladies to adjust and be happy.
Cheers,
Kirk
LOL ....... I leave the forum for several hours and come to find that my gal is giving free virtual hugs to you mugs.
Oh well..... who am I to restrain her? Natalia is a friendly, gregarious, warm-hearted woman. Enjoy the Siberian warmth guys. I absolutely adore her.
Buck
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I thought I would sneak into this thread, too since Jason is in bed with the flu. I just wanted to say that when all of us are finally reunited again we will form great families. Not only can I see that people in this thread really love and respect their other halves and these are the main keys to a family's happiness but also we will all bring smth unique in a family: our culture, our style of life, our way of thinking. Definitely there will be misunderstandings because of differences but i'm sure that in a loving family they will be of a minor sort.
Again I want to say that Russian women won't change in their essense, we will adjust and adapt to the style of living in America but we won't change completely and that is how it's supposed to be I guess.
And Jeffery, I really liked this idea about Russian day once a week. I hope we will have the same with Jas. I just need to teach him some Russian at first. But i know that he will definitely want to have "The day of Russian Food" more than once a week.
Well, good luck to everyone.
Sasha
Welcome Sasha. It is soooooooooooooooo nice to see Russian ladies contributing to the forum......... and I also like Jeffrey's Russian one-day-a-week idea.
We look forward to hearing more from you.
Buck
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Ha ha ha Jeffery - thank you very much, I already told that you are very wise:)) I think Alla will undertand me and will be thinking that I have good taste also,
If not , Oh my God, I will let her hug Buck, but just like friend, in front of my eyes and not longe
I love him a lot for look on that longer than one minute
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It seems to me like you walk around - try american women and are not happy - then find russian woman and are not happy with that. The russian woman must become more american for you soon. If you want the russian woman to become totally american in how she dresses and acts, then you should be happy with that........... but you are not.
What are your expectations? What do you really want?
Welcome to our group, Natalia! Here's my answer:
When I was in the Navy, it was my job to learn as much about Russian/Soviet culture as I could. I can't say that I fell in love with the culture (we were in the "cold war," my attitude was one of studying the enemy), but I did come to respect the Russian people very much.
I did not set out to find a Russian woman. And I did not find a Russian woman because I was tired of American women. For me, it just happened through luck. I chatted with Nadya on the internet and found her to be very interesting and engaging. I fell in love with Nadya long before I fell in love with Russia. So for me, the girl came before Russia, and it was never about giving up on American women.
I don't expect Nadya to become an "American" woman. I would be sad if she did become an American woman. I love her for who she is, not because I want her to become something else. I have always understood that I am not just marrying the woman. I am marrying her family and her culture.
I have asked Nadya to leave her home, her family, her friends, and everything she has ever known. To ask someone to give up their life is asking so much. In return, if she wants to do things the "Russian way" in our home, then we will do them the Russian way. If she wants to hang rugs on our walls, so be it. If when you walk into our home you feel like you are 6,000 miles away from the US, then so be it! I can never repay her for giving up her life for me, but I can give her these comforts. Maybe I am slightly inconvenienced because I have to learn a new way to do something. What is this inconvenience compared to what she must go through to live away from her family?
I know she will have to adapt to some American ways. An entire country cannot change itself because of her, and I know she will understand that. She will have to learn how to drive like an American, and if she works then she will have to learn how to work like the other Americans in her job work. I don't think these are problems. But in our home and in our relationship I'll accommodate her wishes. I think it's best like this anyway. The more comfortable I make her, the less homesick she will be, and the more likely she will stay with me.
Thank you for visiting us Natalia, don't be a stranger! Пока!
Hi !
Kirk and Jeffery! Let me hugs both you for your words while Buck does not see.
Thank you very much for your answer!!! I am sure that your life with Nadia and Alla will be happy and rest of soul.
Thank you for understanding , it is true - when we are leaving Russia, is it very difficult for us, and then ( first years) will be a little more difficult: without parents, job, friends without life wich was really not bad.
I am sure also that for me in USA will be difficult to got position what I have today, I know that my legal russian education and 15 years experience cost much less there. But I do not worry about job much, I already know what I will be doing and it will be very OK.
But I know that first year I will be terribly missing Russia, parents, job, friends.
My heart is in the pain when I am thinking about my parents, they are not young and not in health. I am only child. But they love me so much and let me go with easy heart - they adore Buck and want us to be together.
So what will be connecting us ( Russian women) with USA - our husbands.
Jeffery and Kirk, you are so right in your words- That YOU love your woman for who she is and you do not want change nothing in her. Buck often told me that.
I think that Alla and Nadia know that they met very wise and kind men.
Couse , I understand that with time life in USA will change us, but I hope in good side and we will add to Russian traditions and culture , your American traditions.
Igor! Millions happy days to you. . Glad to see you here. I am sure that after so many years like you are there, you are strange mix, but I hope just in the best way?
Slim! HI! Thank you very much for your point.
I am agree with something , but not with everything.
And I hope that you understand that if we have problems in the family- it is not problems between American man and Russian woman- it is problem between wife and husband!!!
It is your words: “ Jump your "Russian" @$$ on the bandwagon with the rest of the girls wearing their pajamas. “
I can tell you that my @ss is not heavy and I can jump it and fly even to the sky, but only if my Buck will enjoy to see my @ss there from the ground or behind
and I can do that just because I love him and not because I must “get in line all the same “.
BOYS! HAVE A NICE DAY.
NATALIA
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Hahaha....... WOWWW. I am not sure any of us can top Kirk's answer. Kirk - Can you write wedding vows also?
Valentine's Day is also just around the corner. I think Kirk might have a market here.
Buck
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JOKE FROM NATALIA that she wanted me to share with you:
American man: "Lena (Sveta, Olga, Irina,....) my russian sunshine , will you marry me? "
Russian woman: "NO ..... But I will always admire your good taste"
My wife left me!
in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus
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I am coming very late to this thread. All I can say is, "What the HELLLLLLL happened here?"
For what's its worth, this is why Satellite's so called "joke" was totally morally repugnant:
1. There have been people here who have posted genuine "My Wife Has Left Me" posts. Very tragic. Extremely sad posts. Other VJ'ers offerred what little moral support they could to these poor souls in extreme pain. They tried to do the same for Satellite until being informed that they were "suckers." Given that there has been genuine such posts in the past, Satellite's conduct amounted to shouting "Fire" in crowded theater. Just as sociopaths do this in a crowded theater to see how the crowd reacts........ Satellite or his wife (who can believe them now?) did this to see how the VJ'ers would react.
2. Satellite became defensive and refused to admit his conduct was wrong. In this sense, Satellite is well on his way to becoming one of the many smug, condescending, arrogant brethren that are attracted to my profession. Joke about Lawyers in the Harvard Law Review concerning the poor reputation of lawyers among the general public: "Why should a few hundred thousand bad apples spoil the whole bunch?" Satellite's initial "joke" and subsequent refusal to accept responsibility for the outpouring of sympathy it obtained under false pretenses was, at the very least, callous. At worst, it was a cold calculated manipulation of VJ'er sympathies. One can only hope actual law practice makes Satellite more compassionate as it does with many new attorneys. If not, I truly pity his clients.
Buck