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    elmcitymaven reacted to JRoo in Has anyone provided evidence of UK divorce to the US embassy?   
    Thanks for your reply! Unfortunately I didn’t use a lawyer for my divorce, so the only version of the decree I received was online - it has the courts seal on the document but it’s digital so nothing in ink. I applied for an apostille to certify it. Will also try the principal registry. 
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Nature Boy 2.0 in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    Happy Fourth Indictment Day to all who celebrate! 
     
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-indicted-georgia-racketeering-rcna74912
     
    FYI: probation is not available to a defendant convicted of RICO in Georgia. 
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    elmcitymaven reacted to Nature Boy 2.0 in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    Everything they charge Trump I move further into his camp 
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from yuna628 in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    The trial is not merely the verdict. The trial commences with the seating of the first juror, continues through opening statements, through direct and cross-examination of lay and expert witnesses, continuing on through closing statements and on through the jury instructions delivered by the judge to the jury. Every step of that will be public and open to our evaluation except for deliberations. 
     
    Be open. Be skeptical. Weigh the evidence as we receive it. We ask the jurors to do these things. I will keep an open mind, too. It's not Trump's job to convince me of anything. It's the state's to convince me they have it right. I don't mind being wrong when I have a preconceived notion that turns out to be a dud or prejudiced. 
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from yuna628 in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    LOL
     
    @Jericho has it right (mostly). There aren't any incitement charges here. The charges that relate to Trump's spoken words have to do with the three conspiracy counts. Put simply, it is one thing to say a thing, and quite another to say that thing in furtherance of a conspiracy to commit a crime. If (as is alleged) Trump made certain statements that he knew were false with the intent to further any of the three conspiracies alleged (to obstruct an official proceeding; to defraud the United States; and/or to act in contravention of voters' civil rights), that speech is a requisite element in the actus reus of the crime. It is the "act in furtherance."
     
    At the same time, there is (as Jack Smith points out on page 1 of the indictment) still First Amendment protection for Trump to say things that are false, and even those which he knows to be false. There is no issue with any of that. Rather it is why those words were said. If the government cannot prove that the words were said in furtherance of any of those criminal conspiracy, then Trump will prevail. But if Trump cannot rebut these allegations, he will have a tough road.
     
    I make no secret of detesting Trump. But the point of justice is not only for justice to be done, but to be seen to be done. That is why we have public trials. If the charges are manifestly unjust and scant evidence exists to support the charges (and frankly, it is way, way too soon to tell any of that), he should not be punished. But he is being afforded substantial due process here, way more than you or I would be afforded in similar circumstances. He will be given ample opportunity to review all the evidence against him, and to challenge every scrap of it as well as every witness, as is his right. Good! I want him to get a fair trial. I can live with a not guilty verdict because I believe in the system. And where the stakes are this high, the system will bend over backwards to be fair. 
     
    If any of you have not read the indictment, please do. Read it all, it's not very long and it's a straightforward read. Tune out what other people (maybe even me!) are telling you about its contents for a while. Consider several prospects: what if it is true? what if it is not true? what if only some of it is true? Hold these questions in your mind concurrently, because right now, none of us know which is the most correct, and what that will actually mean.
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Dashinka in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    The trial is not merely the verdict. The trial commences with the seating of the first juror, continues through opening statements, through direct and cross-examination of lay and expert witnesses, continuing on through closing statements and on through the jury instructions delivered by the judge to the jury. Every step of that will be public and open to our evaluation except for deliberations. 
     
    Be open. Be skeptical. Weigh the evidence as we receive it. We ask the jurors to do these things. I will keep an open mind, too. It's not Trump's job to convince me of anything. It's the state's to convince me they have it right. I don't mind being wrong when I have a preconceived notion that turns out to be a dud or prejudiced. 
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Dashinka in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    LOL
     
    @Jericho has it right (mostly). There aren't any incitement charges here. The charges that relate to Trump's spoken words have to do with the three conspiracy counts. Put simply, it is one thing to say a thing, and quite another to say that thing in furtherance of a conspiracy to commit a crime. If (as is alleged) Trump made certain statements that he knew were false with the intent to further any of the three conspiracies alleged (to obstruct an official proceeding; to defraud the United States; and/or to act in contravention of voters' civil rights), that speech is a requisite element in the actus reus of the crime. It is the "act in furtherance."
     
    At the same time, there is (as Jack Smith points out on page 1 of the indictment) still First Amendment protection for Trump to say things that are false, and even those which he knows to be false. There is no issue with any of that. Rather it is why those words were said. If the government cannot prove that the words were said in furtherance of any of those criminal conspiracy, then Trump will prevail. But if Trump cannot rebut these allegations, he will have a tough road.
     
    I make no secret of detesting Trump. But the point of justice is not only for justice to be done, but to be seen to be done. That is why we have public trials. If the charges are manifestly unjust and scant evidence exists to support the charges (and frankly, it is way, way too soon to tell any of that), he should not be punished. But he is being afforded substantial due process here, way more than you or I would be afforded in similar circumstances. He will be given ample opportunity to review all the evidence against him, and to challenge every scrap of it as well as every witness, as is his right. Good! I want him to get a fair trial. I can live with a not guilty verdict because I believe in the system. And where the stakes are this high, the system will bend over backwards to be fair. 
     
    If any of you have not read the indictment, please do. Read it all, it's not very long and it's a straightforward read. Tune out what other people (maybe even me!) are telling you about its contents for a while. Consider several prospects: what if it is true? what if it is not true? what if only some of it is true? Hold these questions in your mind concurrently, because right now, none of us know which is the most correct, and what that will actually mean.
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    elmcitymaven reacted to Family in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    There is much to be said about the privileges of being an OP.
     
    For example one could abort/terminate a thread..or for that matter simply enjoy the community privilege of authorship. ..
     
    Politics aside , the same two cracked eggs could either be scrambled at Joes Dinner or Eggs Benedict at The Ritz…only difference is the Chef😂
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    elmcitymaven reacted to Jericho in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    The only breaches of law that I think really should be looked at is his family's continued breach of the emoluments clause. Not only did he continue to actively run his business' during his administration, but his family used their positions to secure and expand their business' in China and the Middle East. Then there is the fact that Trump forced federal government to use his privately owned properties to house traveling diplomats and government agents. This required the government to finance upgrades to his properties to meet diplomatic travel standards.
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    elmcitymaven reacted to TedsGirl in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/08/02/the-new-charges-against-trump-carry-the-death-penalty-n1715460
     
    Wait. What?
     
    I find it very very interesting that as the whistleblower accounts are made, Jack Smith adds more against Trump🤔
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    elmcitymaven reacted to Jericho in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    It's not a twist, it's a legal standard.
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    elmcitymaven reacted to Jericho in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    You're missing the finer points of it. Merely suggesting irregularities in the voting, or even saying it's rigged is covered under the first amendment. However, when you have an armed mob at a rally, blocks from the capitol building, and you say "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore" , that can very easily be construed as a call to arms. Like I said, we'll have to see what a judge and jury believe.
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    elmcitymaven reacted to Crazy Cat in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    This latest Jack Smith absurdity is really laughable...but it is a direct assault on Trump's freedom of speech, among other things such as political persecution.  This will go down in flames as it strengthens Trump.  The Biden administration and the other democrats have created a politically motivated DOJ and ridiculous impeachments which will have unintended consequences sooner or later.  Biden will be the useful idiot who pays a price.  If Biden had any sense left (which is pretty obvious), he would pardon Trump.  
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Family in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    ~ shrugs in legalese ~
     
    If you can't do the time, get a good attorney. Trump's counsel so far... not so good. 
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Nature Boy 2.0 in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    ~ shrugs in legalese ~
     
    If you can't do the time, get a good attorney. Trump's counsel so far... not so good. 
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Nature Boy 2.0 in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    Happy Indictment Day (re-redux) to those who celebrate!
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-indicted-charges-related-efforts-overturn-2020-election/story?id=101612810
     
    Indictment here: 
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/8a7503af-fde7-4061-818c-7d7e0ee06036.pdf?itid=lk_inline_manual_5
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Nature Boy 2.0 in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    Happy Indictment Day (redux) to those who celebrate!
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/donald-trump-indicted-time-sources/story?id=99408228
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Dashinka in Sweden To Hold First European Sex Championship After Becoming First Country To Make Sex Official Sport   
    So THIS is what "rhythmic gymnastics" is.
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Adventine in Judge Orders the Unsealing of the Names of George Santos’ Bail Guarantors   
    Please. Unsealing happens when the public interest in who has put up a significant sum of money on behalf of a defendant outweighs the privacy interests of the persons who have so paid. Happened the other month with Sam Bankman-Fried, same deal. This sort of information is usually made public, and there needs to be something more particularized than asserting that harassment could occur. The outcome is normal and expected, and Santos has a chance to appeal the ruling.
     
    Maybe it's just me, but I want to know who puts up half a mil on behalf of a public servant accused of financial misconduct. 
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Lemonslice in Judge Orders the Unsealing of the Names of George Santos’ Bail Guarantors   
    Please. Unsealing happens when the public interest in who has put up a significant sum of money on behalf of a defendant outweighs the privacy interests of the persons who have so paid. Happened the other month with Sam Bankman-Fried, same deal. This sort of information is usually made public, and there needs to be something more particularized than asserting that harassment could occur. The outcome is normal and expected, and Santos has a chance to appeal the ruling.
     
    Maybe it's just me, but I want to know who puts up half a mil on behalf of a public servant accused of financial misconduct. 
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Lemonslice in Sweden To Hold First European Sex Championship After Becoming First Country To Make Sex Official Sport   
    So THIS is what "rhythmic gymnastics" is.
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Nature Boy 2.0 in Texas lawmakers recommend impeaching Attorney General Ken Paxton after Republican investigation   
    Wonder whose Cheerios he micturated in to get recommended for impeachment.
     
     
    https://apnews.com/article/texas-attorney-general-paxton-impeachment-1eaccf00ce80d26c4fc94eab1672e1bd
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Chancy in Heathrow Border Question   
    Update: He used his US passport throughout inspection, no problems, and was never asked to show his UK passport as the system was all automated. He just inserted his passport in a machine and there was (he thinks) some sort of facial recognition system. While it did not work for everyone it worked for him, and everything moved expeditiously and smoothly. He didn't think he went in any special queue. 
     
    I asked him what he thought of being back, it being the first time for him in nearly 15 years, and he said, "What a dump." Except he used a rather more vulgar word than "dump." Shocking! Apparently the best part is the easy access to Melton Mowbray pies.
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Allaboutwaiting in Heathrow Border Question   
    Update: He used his US passport throughout inspection, no problems, and was never asked to show his UK passport as the system was all automated. He just inserted his passport in a machine and there was (he thinks) some sort of facial recognition system. While it did not work for everyone it worked for him, and everything moved expeditiously and smoothly. He didn't think he went in any special queue. 
     
    I asked him what he thought of being back, it being the first time for him in nearly 15 years, and he said, "What a dump." Except he used a rather more vulgar word than "dump." Shocking! Apparently the best part is the easy access to Melton Mowbray pies.
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    elmcitymaven got a reaction from Nature Boy 2.0 in [Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump   
    Patience, friend. I've been in litigation hell for the past couple of months but I might have some bandwidth later today. Criminal law ain't my bag but I'll give it a whirl.
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