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Posts posted by Allie
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There should be a case number on the NOA1 or on the back of the cashed cheque. You should be able to check on your case with this number. I thinkk when we had to inquire on our case the number started with a W
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agreed that importing guns while immigrating is not the same as importing household goods. ATFE has an importation form that can be completed by an individual for their personal collection, but it is wise to involve a liscensed firearms dealer in your destination area in the process. the mechanism of importation is covered in the FEIGB (firearms and explosives identification guide book.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importa...k--complete.pdf
in short, you should, but are not required to, establish residency before importing. you may not bring in anything full auto or non-sporting. ATFE identifies full auto differently than canada does, so certain guns that are considered semi-auto in canada are considered full auto in USA. this is because the modifications made from full auto to semi-auto in canada do not meet ATF's "once a machine gun, always a machine gun" rule.
non-sporting covers a category of modern military types such as semi-auto ak-47, vz58, mg42, etc that are assembled with more than 10 non-USA manufactured parts (from a list of qualifying parts). this can be tricky for someone not in the know (including many FFL dealers).
read the text yourself, but from page 8:
firearms or ammunition may be imported into the United States: if the firearms or ammunition are of a type generally recognized as particularly
suitable for or readily adaptable to "sporting purposes";
Surplus military firearms and other non-sporting firearms qualifying as "curios or
relics" may be imported.
Handguns being imported into the United States must also be recognized as particularly
suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes...
p11:
The importation of firearms, firearm frames and receivers, firearm barrels, and
ammunition is subject to the provisions of 18 U.S.C., Chapter 44, the GCA and the
implementing regulations in 27 CFR, Part 478. (this also includes parts such as receivers, barrels)
In order to engage in the business of importing firearms or ammunition for resale, you
must obtain a Federal Firearms License (FFL) as an importer. (but you're not doing this as a business)
An approved import permit on ATF Form 6, Application and Permit for Importation of
Firearms, Ammunition and Implements of War, is required to import these articles into the
United States and allows the importation of the articles listed on the form. A permit is
valid for one year from its approved date.
A Federally licensed firearms dealer, pawnbroker or manufacturer, other than a
manufacturer of ammunition only (Type 06 FFL) may obtain a permit to occasionally
import a firearm for the FFL’s personal use, or for the personal use of a customer (the
customer’s name, address and purpose of importation should be shown in the item
entitled 'Specific Purpose of Importation' on the Form 6 Part I), without becoming
licensed and registered as an importer.
An unlicensed person may obtain a permit to import sporting ammunition (excluding
armor-piercing, tracer, or incendiary ammunition) and firearm parts (other than frames,
receivers, firearm barrels, or barreled actions) without engaging the services of an FFL,
provided the items are for personal use and not for resale. Generally, ATF cannot issue a
permit authorizing the importation of firearms barrels for nonsporting or surplus military
firearms.
see form 4590 on page 14 for handgun considerations. some small handguns are unimportable due to size restrictions, which are often overcome by changing grip panels. some handguns are unimportable due to lack of manual safety.
then there is the list of restricted countries of manufacture, noted on page 15.
the forms you need are on page 21, with some instructions.
p36
A foreign national. An alien entering the U.S. to establish residency may obtain an approved
ATF F 6 (Part I) import permit, prior to the date U.S. residency is established (90 days after his
or her date of arrival in the U.S.) to import sporting firearms, sporting ammunition, and certain
implements of war (e.g., firearm component parts). The items approved for importation must
accompany the alien or be contained in his or her shipment of personal effects. 18 U.S.C. 922
(d)(3).
as you can see, it can get complicated, so i would recommend you engage the services of a competent type 1 or 2 FFl in your destination state.
if you are moving to pennsylvania, that would be me.
I just read all this and it is not as complicated as all these clauses appear If you do everything correctly on the form you in no way require the services of a licensed firearm dealer/importer.
Just fill out the application. If there are problems on your application an ATF Agent will call you informing about any errors you made while applying and help you correct those errors. As I stated in a previous post they are very helpful and easy to deal with.
I know this because I had 2 calls from them to verify exactly what I meant on the application.
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I took my 2 rifles with me when I crossed. You do need the required paperwork though. I had no hassle what so ever with ATF I dealt with a Ms. Richardson and she was very nice and very co-operative.
The 2 rifles I took were of great sentimental value and are 2 great hunting rifles. I would have been heart broken to leave them behind.
I sent in my paperwork on Nov. and had my release and Import approval back in Jan.
They do request the application being submitted 60 days before the intended importation.
The address is:
Director
Bureau of Achohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives
244 Needy Road
Martinsburg, wv 25405
Attention: Firearma and Explosives Import Branch
You need to fill out the form:
Application and Permit for Importation of Firearms Ammunition and Implements of War
ATF Form6- Part1 (5330.3A)
When bringing them into the US you must have :
ATF Form 6A(5330.3C) Release and Receipt of Imported Firearms, Ammunition and Implements of War.
You present this filled out form with the Import Permit # on it to US Customs. They check it against the model, serial# and Manufacturer of gun
Make sure you have it all as it appears on the gun. When I took my Tikka across I had written in Tikka on the release form but the gun although being a Tikka is made by Sako and that was what was on the barrel. It took some explaining to do about the difference in names.
If going by plane you'll need the paperwork to show it's okay to take em on. It cost em and extra $50 to put them on the plane. I would make it very visible that it's a fragile package. I took mine in a 2 rifle case and everything arrived as it had left.
If you have further questions or need help in filling the forms don't hesitate to ask me
Allie
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Congrats on the approval Wyatt
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Welcome to the Canadian Visa Journey Family. You'll get all the answers to any questions
you have right here in the Canada Forum.
Congrats and good luck
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Good to hear you made it. No sweat you'll get an approval
Remember the Visa Journey trick "head to the back of the elevator".
It's where all the Visa Jounrey folks hang out lol,lol
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OH CANADA!
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NBC Report
in Canada
The higher price is to cover those break in costs lol,lol
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Congrats
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Good luck Wyatt The interview is the easiest and shortest part of this whole journey
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Paul and Vanessa Posted Today, 01:39 AM
Allie can talk about bridges all she wants, I wasn't the one burning them.
I wasn't just talking about burning bridges. I was trying to give you some sound advice
on where your making of bad relations here in the Canadian Forum is leading you.
and what the consequences of those soured relations are going to be.
Below is my posting in which I try to advise you but it appears you still neglect to get it.
I cannot speak for others here, but with all the anti- Canada sentiment you have presented in this Canadian Forum I can tell you, I for one will not be jumping to the keyboard to answer any inquiries you present. You have burned your bridge to that advice
Yesterday, 05:17 PM Post #57
This is my last posting on this topic:
You're here in the Canadian Forum what I think making bad relations.
Somewhere along this Visa journey you may be in this same Canadian Forum inquiring
on an issue in paperwork to these same Canadians you're offending
my thoughts to you Paul, " don't burn your bridges behind you, some day they may have to be crossed again"
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Your argument fails the moment you try and say I have an anti-Canadian attitude. It's not the case at all.
Go Re-Read the intro. He's talking about the similarities in the games and nothing more. He's not calling Canadians Nazis....
Here's the intro:
-- After a spirited torch relay ignited pride in every corner of the country, the Olympic Games began and quickly galvanized the nation.
Flags were everywhere. The country's national symbol hung from windows and was worn on nearly everyone's clothing.
Fervent crowds cheered every victory by the host nation.
But enough about the 1936 Berlin Olympics.
He's introducing the scene at the 1936 Olympics. Thus the closing line " But enough about the 1936 Berlin Olypics"
Then he goes on to compare the Vancouver Olypics as being on the same stage as those of Berlin in 1936.
My opinion, Yes you have a huge Anti- Canada attitude.
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NBC Report
in Canada
Now you know what Victoria's Secret is lol,lol
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The writer is not referring he is comparing. In his very first paragraph he sets the stage for comparing the hype of the 1936 Berlin Games to those of Vancouver and Canadian's Patriotism at the games.
Are you so blinded by your anti Canadian attitude that you can not grasp that he's comparing all the Canadian Patriotism over the Vancouver Games on equal level to those of Nazi Germany in 1936.
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NBC Report
in Canada
This is hard to believe and totally disgusting
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcfld0_nb...caught-sel_news
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You'll be elgible for Obama's bridge repair program with all the bridges you're going to be mending in the Canadian Forum Paul
trailmix Posted Today, 06:50 PM
All of us already know Canada is cool. If you keep this up I predict in about 2 hours you can start another thread apologizing for your comments in this thread
Oh and in case you haven't noticed (and from your comment above I would say you have not) our country is not a 'silly little thing'
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They'll play better just being away from the Leafs. Maybe they have a clause if you don't play well here it's back to TO.
That would be incentive enough to work their butts off lol,lol
Flames!
He won the NHL trade lottery. Toronto to Pittsburgh? That's a serious step up.
I can say this because I'm a Leaf's fan
Absolutely right. he must be one happy camper with that trade.
I can say it because I'm a Bruins fan lol,lol
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Doing some bridge repair ?
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This is my last posting on this topic:
You're here in the Canadian Forum what I think making bad relations.
Somewhere along this Visa journey you may be in this same Canadian Forum inquiring
on an issue in paperwork to these same Canadians you're offending
My advise to you Paul, " don't burn your bridges behind you, some day they may have to be crossed again"
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Not only TO radio. Appears you Paul seem to freak out about anything Canadian
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Casting out different bait are we? Now we're going to try the Political angle for some more bites.
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I proudly have my Canadian and Nova Scotia Flags waving in the breeze next to the US and WA. in the front yard
While the Olympics were running I wore my Team Canada hat everywhere I went.
I took it off when I went to bed though Paul.
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Exactly. If people want to think Canada's pride was arrogance, then that's their problem.
I think Canada did a great job... they had 16 days to show the world who they were and they did it.
I do recall the Salt Lake City Olympics having a lot of "American pride" involved too. It's like inviting the world into your home, you want to be a great host, but you want them to leave remembering who you are.
And your hockey argument... let's not go there again.
I agree Canada did do a superb job hosting these Olympics. The writer of this article may not like what he heard or saw but this is one persons view only. Most of the reports I've read about the games were all positive. I can tell you I sure as h$ll loved what I saw.
He complains about tickets made available in Van. to when the games were in Behjing, but he fails to report you could go wherever you wanted in Vancouver or for that matter anywhere in Canada.
Are Canadians not allowed to show their patriotism? In my opinion I think the writer was too use to reading and hearing about how passive we Canadians are and wasn't prepared for all the Canadian patriotism. He's more than likely only use to seeing it in his own country as is ther original poster
Still waiting for NOA2 getting worried....feedback please
in Canada
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Yes you can speak with someone when you call. When we had to call I couldn't get through from Canada Lorry had to call them from the US.
That may have changed since then but that's how it was when we had to contact USCIS by phone