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Then you are following the rules and everything is rosy.

I am writing this as new information I learned with NVC and CPSA based upon my recent CEAC electronic submission of IV Fees, Application, Affidavit of Support and related civil and financial documents.
 
By research told me the NVC would only consider calculating and applying the CSPA age (for a unmarried child under 21 years visa) after the beneficiary's priority date became current and a visa was thus available.  The big problem was that NVC was automatically looking at the "over 21 years" current visa class availability (which is many years longer) if the principal applicant's real age was over 21 years.  And if the CSPA age was "under 21 years", I read how petitioners needed to learn to petition the NVC to get NVC to do their job and calculate the CSPA age when the "under 21 years" visa class availability was current.  Several petitioners commented on getting their congressmen involved with NVC.  It appeared that the NVC would only do the CSPA age calculation when the "under 21 years" visa class availability became current, not before.
 
So my recent CEAC electronic submission story with new information about NVC and CPSA follows:
1) The USCIS approved petition was for a F2A (or F22 - unmarried child under 21 years)
2) NVC CEAC created the case with a F22 visa classification shown on the status page.
3) Paid the fees and submitted all the forms.  Right after electronic submission of the IV Application that contained the principal applicant's birth date, I noticed that the NVC CEAC status page had changed the visa classification from F22 to F24 (unmarried son/daughter over 21 years) because indeed the principal applicant is over 21 years old.
4) Even after finishing the electronic submittal of documents, I was able to add two documents that explained that the CSPA age of the principal applicant is 8 months before 21 years at that moment in time ... and that there is an extremely high probability the principal applicant's priority date will become current before 8 months from that moment in time.  I asked for CSPA protection for the principal applicant and for the NVC CEAC visa class to be changed from F24 (over 21 years) to F22 (under 21 years).  I also wrote an email with the same requests via the askNVC webpage.
5) About 5 days later, I got an email back from the askNVC staff saying that my email was being sent to the correct department for further consideration.
6) About 4 days later without receiving any notification, I checked the the NVC CEAC status page and the visa class was put back to F22 (under 21 years) and all the electronically submitted documents were marked off as "Accepted".  This included the documents that asked for CSPA protection for the principal applicant. These CSPA related documents were made part of the case documents and "Accepted"
 
The really big improvement here compared to what my research was saying about NVC and CPSA protection is that the NVC has now officially given CPSA protection to my principal applicant BEFORE the priority date has become current.  Now, we have the NVC correctly watching the F22 class visa availability (as they should be) as our principal applicant's priority date becomes current for the F22 class in a short amount of time from now.  The day the principal applicant's priority date becomes current and the principal applicant's CSPA age is under 21 years, then the principal applicant's CSPA age becomes frozen for a year as the immigration visa process continues. 
 
So if you have a CSPA situation, it appears that NVC electronic system will work for us now when asking for CPSA protection before the priority date becomes current for the "under 21 years" visa classes.

Pay those fees and then on to the DS-260, Take your time to get all the information right before submitting.  Congratulations.

When the DS-260 was submitted, the F2A-F2B visa was "sought with the State Dept."  Then you got the visa status back to F2A in July 2019.
 
Therefore, the beneficiary "CSPA age as of May 1st, 2019" freezes for one year to go through the NVC "documentarily qualified" time period (what you are doing now) and to allow time for getting the US Embassy interview accomplished.
 
The biggest problem you had of getting the F2A visa status is already solved.  NVC is working with you to get "documentarily qualified".  Then after that, NVC will schedule the US Embassy interview.  So don't worry about the aging out because NVC is working with you at this time with the one year CSPA freeze time period.

I am writing this as new information I learned with NVC and CPSA based upon my recent CEAC electronic submission of IV Fees, Application, Affidavit of Support and related civil and financial documents.
 
By research told me the NVC would only consider calculating and applying the CSPA age (for a unmarried child under 21 years visa) after the beneficiary's priority date became current and a visa was thus available.  The big problem was that NVC was automatically looking at the "over 21 years" current visa class availability (which is many years longer) if the principal applicant's real age was over 21 years.  And if the CSPA age was "under 21 years", I read how petitioners needed to learn to petition the NVC to get NVC to do their job and calculate the CSPA age when the "under 21 years" visa class availability was current.  Several petitioners commented on getting their congressmen involved with NVC.  It appeared that the NVC would only do the CSPA age calculation when the "under 21 years" visa class availability became current, not before.
 
So my recent CEAC electronic submission story with new information about NVC and CPSA follows:
1) The USCIS approved petition was for a F2A (or F22 - unmarried child under 21 years)
2) NVC CEAC created the case with a F22 visa classification shown on the status page.
3) Paid the fees and submitted all the forms.  Right after electronic submission of the IV Application that contained the principal applicant's birth date, I noticed that the NVC CEAC status page had changed the visa classification from F22 to F24 (unmarried son/daughter over 21 years) because indeed the principal applicant is over 21 years old.
4) Even after finishing the electronic submittal of documents, I was able to add two documents that explained that the CSPA age of the principal applicant is 8 months before 21 years at that moment in time ... and that there is an extremely high probability the principal applicant's priority date will become current before 8 months from that moment in time.  I asked for CSPA protection for the principal applicant and for the NVC CEAC visa class to be changed from F24 (over 21 years) to F22 (under 21 years).  I also wrote an email with the same requests via the askNVC webpage.
5) About 5 days later, I got an email back from the askNVC staff saying that my email was being sent to the correct department for further consideration.
6) About 4 days later without receiving any notification, I checked the the NVC CEAC status page and the visa class was put back to F22 (under 21 years) and all the electronically submitted documents were marked off as "Accepted".  This included the documents that asked for CSPA protection for the principal applicant. These CSPA related documents were made part of the case documents and "Accepted"
 
The really big improvement here compared to what my research was saying about NVC and CPSA protection is that the NVC has now officially given CPSA protection to my principal applicant BEFORE the priority date has become current.  Now, we have the NVC correctly watching the F22 class visa availability (as they should be) as our principal applicant's priority date becomes current for the F22 class in a short amount of time from now.  The day the principal applicant's priority date becomes current and the principal applicant's CSPA age is under 21 years, then the principal applicant's CSPA age becomes frozen for a year as the immigration visa process continues. 
 
So if you have a CSPA situation, it appears that NVC electronic system will work for us now when asking for CPSA protection before the priority date becomes current for the "under 21 years" visa classes.

I believe my situation with F22 (F2A) immigration visa that started this thread, and all subsequent posters in this thread regarding CSPA, have been in regard to a child of a legal permanent resident.

Yes, I did not mention that she does always travel with a copy of the marriage certificate, however, no one has ever asked for it.  At the airlines check-in desk, they did not bat an eye at the name differences on the passports, and Russian immigration did not care either, I don't think they even looked at the boarding pass when we entered, and even though Katya also showed her US passport at Russian immigration, again they had no interest.  Last year, the first time we traveled after Katya got her US passport, we did it the opposite, purchasing the tickets in her Russian passport name, and that worked as well.  This is the way we did it when she traveled when she only had a GC.  We did investigate changing her name on her Russian passport, but that process is long and arduous requiring her to update her internal passport first.
 
I hope that helps.

Your statement is incorrect with regard to Russia: "A minor child cannot be relocated to another country without the consent of both parents."
 
Russia acceded to the 1980 Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction (Hague Abduction Convention) on October 1, 2011; however, the United States and Russia are not yet treaty partners.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/International-Parental-Child-Abduction/abductions/hague-abduction-country-list.html
 
So that is why I got my minor child (who I have custody of and a child support order for) to immigrate to the USA because also according to Russian Law the father must legally petition for a travel ban and the father did not do that.  Leaving Russia border control, they check the travel ban data base and my minor child with IR2 step-child visa was free to go with one parent (me). I am describing a different timeline from my other son's F2A visa that is hooked to my current profile.
 
Applicable Russian Law:
According to Article 21 of Federal Law No. 114-ФЗ (FZ) as of 08/15/1996
on the Procedure for Exit from the Russian Federation and Entry Into the Russian
Federation, the procedure for filing an application stating opposition to exit from
the Russian Federation of a minor citizen of the Russian Federation shall be
established by the Government of the Russian Federation.

According to Decree No.273 of the Government of the Russian Federation
as of May 12, 2003 on the Establishment of the Rules for filing an application
stating opposition to exit from the Russian Federation of a minor citizen of the
Russian Federation, the above Rules describe the procedure for filing an
application stating opposition to exit from the Russian Federation of a minor
citizen of the Russian Federation in accordance with Article 21 of Federal Law No.
114-ФЗ (FZ) as of 08/15/1996 on the Procedure for Exit from the Russian
Federation and Entry Into the Russian Federation (hereinafter referred to as the
“application”).
 
An application must be personally filed by one of the parents, or adopted
parents, a trustee, or a legal guardian of the minor citizen of the Russian Federation
(hereinafter referred to as the “applicant”) with a local office of the Federal
Migration Service at the place of permanent or temporary residence, a border
control body, or a diplomatic mission (consular institution) of the Russian
Federation if the applicant permanently resides outside the Russian Federation.

Now go to the Ask NVC webpage: 
 
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/ask-nvc.html
 
and request CSPA protection for your case based on the CSPA calculator results (google it).
 
It appears you did your DS-260 application and that is why your case got automatically set to a F24 (F2B) visa class.
 
A few business days for Ask NVC to respond, then 2 to 4 weeks to see that your visa class got put back to F22 on CEAC.  Then do a Ask NVC request to make sure you get their attention to set up your US Embassy interview date.

This is just my opinion.  Airline prices are the cheapest from Russia to JFK but I never would have my immigrant family member enter the USA going through JFK (unless I lived nearby).  Why? It's a madhouse ... international customs and then going through domestic security ... and doing it alone and never done it before.
 
For my situation, the airline prices to Chicago for my immigrant family members USA entry is not that much more and worth it that I can drive from Iowa and be there when they arrive.
 
Being that Florida is quite a tourist destination, I would suspect that having your fiancee enter the USA at a Florida International airport would not be much more expensive than flying through JFK.  So I am just saying IMHO that you should consider a USA port of entry that is in Florida (than especially JFK).

This thread is your path to success back to F22 ... patience is required and will be rewarded.  In about 3 to 4 weeks check your CEAC status.  No feedback is typically given when case changed back to F22.  But when you see it changed on CEAC it's a big hurrah !!! Let us know with an update. 

I am writing this as new information I learned with NVC and CPSA based upon my recent CEAC electronic submission of IV Fees, Application, Affidavit of Support and related civil and financial documents.
 
By research told me the NVC would only consider calculating and applying the CSPA age (for a unmarried child under 21 years visa) after the beneficiary's priority date became current and a visa was thus available.  The big problem was that NVC was automatically looking at the "over 21 years" current visa class availability (which is many years longer) if the principal applicant's real age was over 21 years.  And if the CSPA age was "under 21 years", I read how petitioners needed to learn to petition the NVC to get NVC to do their job and calculate the CSPA age when the "under 21 years" visa class availability was current.  Several petitioners commented on getting their congressmen involved with NVC.  It appeared that the NVC would only do the CSPA age calculation when the "under 21 years" visa class availability became current, not before.
 
So my recent CEAC electronic submission story with new information about NVC and CPSA follows:
1) The USCIS approved petition was for a F2A (or F22 - unmarried child under 21 years)
2) NVC CEAC created the case with a F22 visa classification shown on the status page.
3) Paid the fees and submitted all the forms.  Right after electronic submission of the IV Application that contained the principal applicant's birth date, I noticed that the NVC CEAC status page had changed the visa classification from F22 to F24 (unmarried son/daughter over 21 years) because indeed the principal applicant is over 21 years old.
4) Even after finishing the electronic submittal of documents, I was able to add two documents that explained that the CSPA age of the principal applicant is 8 months before 21 years at that moment in time ... and that there is an extremely high probability the principal applicant's priority date will become current before 8 months from that moment in time.  I asked for CSPA protection for the principal applicant and for the NVC CEAC visa class to be changed from F24 (over 21 years) to F22 (under 21 years).  I also wrote an email with the same requests via the askNVC webpage.
5) About 5 days later, I got an email back from the askNVC staff saying that my email was being sent to the correct department for further consideration.
6) About 4 days later without receiving any notification, I checked the the NVC CEAC status page and the visa class was put back to F22 (under 21 years) and all the electronically submitted documents were marked off as "Accepted".  This included the documents that asked for CSPA protection for the principal applicant. These CSPA related documents were made part of the case documents and "Accepted"
 
The really big improvement here compared to what my research was saying about NVC and CPSA protection is that the NVC has now officially given CPSA protection to my principal applicant BEFORE the priority date has become current.  Now, we have the NVC correctly watching the F22 class visa availability (as they should be) as our principal applicant's priority date becomes current for the F22 class in a short amount of time from now.  The day the principal applicant's priority date becomes current and the principal applicant's CSPA age is under 21 years, then the principal applicant's CSPA age becomes frozen for a year as the immigration visa process continues. 
 
So if you have a CSPA situation, it appears that NVC electronic system will work for us now when asking for CPSA protection before the priority date becomes current for the "under 21 years" visa classes.

If the Consular Officer really needs photographs, then tell the CO that you will get on Skype, WhatApp etc and take a screen shot of you two communicating and send in by email ... and that you have no other pictures because you have been separated for so long.  It's the truth and you are doing the best you can here to be resourceful ... but for a family visa this is really not required by the CO.  Your original documents including birth, medical, military, and police records and sponsors' financials are what are the CO cares about vetting.

No, out of the boat with my F2A son's visa becoming current at CSPA age of 20 years 10 months. He just got his 10 year green card in the mail today at home with us.

"Case Documentary Qualified" means that the case is at NVC and the applicant has filed the DS-260 and all supporting documents and NVC has accepted all of this information and has determined that the case is qualified to be scheduled for an Embassy interview when the priority date becomes current.
 
You have a I-130 "petition" at USCIS that has not been approved yet.  Your future approved petition will become a NVC case when transferred to NVC and you get a NVC case number.

To avoid any potential future repercussions, I would suggest that you, the petitioner, craft a visa withdrawal letter, short and sweet.  Send a copy to the interviewing embassy/consulate and a copy to the servicing USCIS service center. In it I would reference your DOS casefile number,  your USCIS reference number, and the name of your ex-beneficiary. I would include a brief statement explaining your current relationship situation, and your request for withdrawal from further consideration or advancement of this visa application.  This withdrawal is final, and cannot be changed, reinstated, or appealed. In your letter to USCIS, I would likely include a copy of your I-129F visa application approval letter (NOA2) for reference. I would likely email the letter to the interviewing embassy/consulate, and mail the letter with attachments to the USCIS service center first class, return receipt requested.
 
Best wishes on your future immigration journey.

You're very welcome.  

Assuming you are a CR-1 immigrant visa holder, when you arrived at the USA POE your visa/passport got stamped and your A# was written out over that stamp.  That is your I-551 Temporary Green Card good for one year.  You will have to educate those that need your green card that you do have one at this time.  

Assuming you are a CR-1 immigrant visa holder, when you arrived at the USA POE your visa/passport got stamped and your A# was written out over that stamp.  That is your I-551 Temporary Green Card good for one year.  You will have to educate those that need your green card that you do have one at this time.  

Very good question.  I would go with a "can't go wrong answer" which is to use the style found on a US Visa:
 
DDMONYEAR
 
Examples:
03JAN1996
12FEB1998
08MAR2000
24APR2002
31MAY2004
18JUN2006
27JUL2008
01AUG2010
21SEP2012
11OCT2014
30NOV2016
08DEC2018
 
For your other question, we did my timeline as part of our several different USCIS petitions' cover letter.

Congratulations to your family! I'm hoping to get the appointment letter this coming week. *Fingercrossed*
 
 
Again, thank you for your help! 🥰 God bless you! ❤️

You are very welcome.  We are welcoming our immigrant son to Chicago POE this weekend.  So we are very happy too.

This is great news.  Your case now goes to the correct NVC department to make the CSPA decision.  In the big picture, 2 to 3 weeks more waiting is a short time for immigration success.  Check the CEAC case status page for a change of visa class back to F22 (F2A).  I never got official email when they changed it in our case.  Just watched CEAC.  Whatever happens let us know.  Just relax because you have done what you need to do for CSPA protection for your case.

You are quite right

Kind of arrogant to assume the denial is related to the knowledge level of the CO, isn't it?  By law, COs are required to assume immigrant intent for applicants of non-immigrant visas.  The way around that is to show strong ties to home/reasons to return.  Your wife failed to do that and was therefore rightly denied.