Kevin and

Great! Congratulation!

Thanks for the interview details also.

Loi and I are starting a hanger business, do you want to buy some?

Sweet! Congratulations.

I might have to go into the hanger business.

not as an excuse, but just a setback to go visit her again is that even though I can afford moneywise to go again, I have to start saving up vacation days...I spent nearly all of it for this last trip and it maybe a while before I get a worthwile amount again...

as for the insurance policy, correct me if I'm wrong but for such thigns dont you need a social security number and such before you can add her, or can you get away with a name and birthdat or something, its been a while since I did that type of paperwork,

thanks for the help!! it is defintely keeping me in good spirit, espically after other comments that worried me and brought me down, thanks again!!

Call and ask them. If she is not covered while in VN its a waste of money. However, you can put he as a beneficiary in case something happens to you. All the money would go to her.

I'm shocked to hear this Kevin.

I have experience in Vietnamese divorces, if it comes to that. I should have mine finalized in a few months...so I can do it again!

There's plenty of good women in Vietnam.

Congratulations!

OTC sleeping pill + shot of scotch= sleep

or read a book.

I was thinking of just getting a notarized letter from the person who introduced us, is that enough, or do I need more letters?

Also, what information should be in the letter?

They aren't necessary. Affidavits are usually used if you lack evidence.

you are in a great position just because you go to vietnam so often. here is what your alibi is going to be when interview and doing paters etc from now on: met kieu 2008. started talking. dam noi 2011, not wedding. visit vietnam next year and then wedding (technically your second wedding keke) while you are there go suu thu phap and apply for vietnam marriage cert. bring coffee money. start working on your i-130 now by the way. email her once a week. send her snail mail once a month. send her 100 bucks each month. save everything. then next year do another wedding, take pictures blah blah blah etch. save everything. ask for receipts. if you dont have proof of your visits to vietnam ask someone to visit hotels, resturants and ask for blank receipts. bring coffee money just in case. forge yourself some stuff up. trust me, i know what im doing.

He already filed his petition.

Why risk getting a lifetime ban falsifying evidence?

Did you get a marriage certificate from the government? You would have had to fill out a ton of paperwork before you even went to VN to get married.

What is th AP your referring to?? Also, does that mean that the affidavits I will eventually provide will not be reviewed at that time either??

AP-addition processing. Usually after an interview the CO wants to look at the case again/closer.

The actual interview is only about 15-30 minutes, its not enough time for a CO to review/investigate any new evidence brought to the interview. They will hand out a blue sheet explaining what you will need to do. Its normal procedure for them to ask for a detailed timeline of the relationship, list of beneficiary's relative in the US, and proof of residency for the past 10 years. There's a debate on whether they actually need it for the investigation or for a stalling tactic. Regardless of what their reason is for asking for them, they want them.

Right now just focus on getting all your paperwork ready for the NVC and gathering evidences.

Have you read the process guides at the top of the webpage yet?

thanks for the advice, I will try to frontload all of the red flags and try to visit her again before the interview...but at the same time, since the paperwork is in, all of this evidence being gathered now will not help the before marriage stuff they want to see...

That's where affidavits would come in. IMO, you should get three (you, your wife, and your uncle)explaining how your relationship started. I don't see any other way to get around it without any other evidence for explaining the nature of your case.

Its too late to frontload, you already submitted your I-130. The best you can do is continue building a strong relationship and keep all your evidence.

Don't be shocked when/if your case is put into AP. The CO will only have the bonafides you submitted with your I-130. Any new evidence brought to the interview most likely will not be reviewed at that time.

An arranged marriage and getting married on your first visit is enough of an alarm for a CO. Those two Red Flags and lack of evidence will cause a CO to look very closely at your case. Maybe you should think about hiring a lawyer who knows how HCM Consulate works.

Sorry to tell you, but you're probably going to have a tough time at the Consulate. Too many Red Flags and not enough evidence to over come them.

If you have enough bonafides , affidavits aren't needed. That why we used them and I suggested you use them. All you can do now is keep any and all evidence to present at the interview from the time you got married until the interview.

They look delicate but beware.

Tuyen never planned on coming back. I checked her belongings and she took all her jewelry and nail polishes with her for a "2 week" stay at her brother's. She hasn't told me directly what she plans on doing. She is ignoring me since she went to OC. But I have a pretty good idea. Since coming back from VN she distanced herself from me and my family. She bought new luggage when she got back from VN, but didn't have a trip planned. He's going down there this weekend to check things out. I told him that if she want a divorce she needs to talk to me directly over the phone or in person. Looks like my journey is now over.

Its hard for me to see the US allowing China to control the south china sea. The 7th Fleet is always within range there, though their base is a little ways away in Yokosuka Prefecture. Still they keep a task force stationed in Singapore.

Its too important of a shipping lane for the US and its allies, mainly Australia, to allow China to control it. If there is an all out war in the ME it will have even greater importance.

+1 on Viet Kieu Express or Fed-Ex

I used UPS once. The documents got held up in customs for a week. Maybe it was a one time deal, but I never used them after that. I used Viet Kieu or Fed-ex.

Hi Kevin bro,i have been heard from you about your story,really sorry.everybody gave you best advice but important is Tuyen.she kept secret and didnt want to tell reason to you why did she do that.sorry cause i missunderstood about her brother when i replied your message in FB.

My town dont have a lot VN people too,it's really hard for me since i came here and i was give up many time.i've been know how feeling,so if you dont mind you can give me Tuyen's email address,i hope i can talk to her. May be she is good lady but just listen some wrong person with stupid idea.nobody can take care us without ourself,our family(mom and dad),husband/wife.Take care yourself first,i believe 1 day she come back and say sorry to u.

Thanks Em Nhi

One day might be too late.

Kevin,

OC in da house. Anything I can do to help you?

Do you know which part of OC? Westminter, Santa Ana, Garden Grove, Fountain Valley, Anaheim, Cypress, Stanton, Midway City, and etc....

I think Westminster. She won't give me the address so I can forward mail. I guess I'll write "return to sender" on everything that comes here. Thanks, but I don't think there's anything anyone can do. She has to figure it out herself.

tcTTct- ####### is right.

When I told her I wasn't paying her health insurance anymore and she had to cancel it. Her reply was I don't have money so you pay it.

I assume her brother isnt happy about this either...

He's trying to take the supportive brother role, but he isn't happy about it. He thinks she need some time to figure out what she wants. I'm closing the bank account and canceling payments to insurance. Since its her health insurance policy I can't cancel it all I can do is stop payments from the account. I don't care about the liability.

AGGGGHHHHHH!

Tuyen left her brother's in SJ. She went to OC and is with a family friend now.

I'll know in a couple days what's going on. I'm still going there to talk, but Tuyen still needs a little time to sort things out. At least she's talking to me now.

I screwed up too. She wouldn't open up and tell me what was wrong, so I gave up and didn't push the issue far enough to find out.

If you're worried about your SO flying, get them one of these. Just point at what you're looking for.

Are you sure? Why don't you try and fly out here to talk to her in person?

You're right. That's the only way I will know.

Thank you everyone for the advice, support, and offers to help.

I don't think we can save the relationship. Too much time passed from the filing until the visa. She doesn't love me. Maybe she thought it would change once she got here, but it didn't.

Anyway, We both want each other to be happy. I guess I'll let her go. She's a good woman and there aren't any bad feeling between us. I just wish it didn't go down like this.