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On 19/5/2560 at 1:50 AM, kellyh said:

Once NVC receives your case, a welcome letter will be sent to you which includes a document cover sheet and how to contact NVC. (3 pages).

 

Hello,

This has scared us a little bit. I assembled our packets before leaving the US to come back and live with my husband as we wait for this NVC process to be completed. Then we will go to the interview together.

Now, my mom has our packets, and she is going to add our barcodes and write our case number on each page for us. However, must she really put everything in order as this second page "Document Cover Sheet" says to do?

Hello everyone,

My sincere, heartfelt sympathies are with those of you who have not yet been approved.
Our Priority Date was October 13th, and we were approved on May 4th.

Now we called NVC from Uganda, and they gave us our Case Number as well as Invoice number, told us we were received on the 26th of May, and that we should be able to pay by June 9th.

This is an insane process. I pray all the time that the people who handle our cases know these are families whose lives they are holding in their hands.

We are a bit confused...according to all the official NVC stuff, they will assign us an interview date. But according to most (but not all) Nairobi Consulate filers, they have to keep checking some website to be lucky enough to "catch" an interview date. This is worrying us. Some people wait up to three or four months before they can even select an interview date, and then there is another wait of a few weeks after selecting to the date of the interview. Does anyone know if this is true?

Another question....my husband's immunization records were lost during the civil war, and now we don't know what to do. What are the acceptable forms of immunization proofs for the medical exam? We want to get on top of this as soon as possible to avoid any further delays. Can he get a letter from his mother stating the vaccines he got, the reason his record is lost, and signed by our local government agency?

I am thinking of you all who are not yet approved. We pray for you guys and we know your frustration. Stay strong. We are warriors!

<3 Goobie2
 

Hello everyone,

We are from Uganda but interviewing in Nairobi.

My husband's immunization records got lost during the insurgency of the 90's. What should we do? What have all of you presented as proof of immunizations? We don't know if they will accept him showing the scars and then getting a letter from the hospital, or if we need to just get him re-immunized. Please give us your advice.

Also, how long did it take you all to get through NVC? Is it really around 11 weeks after they get your documents?

Thanks,

Goobie2

I am so sad to see that there are a number of you who have not yet been approved. I pray for you all. We will get through this. 

I believe that those of us who go through this harrowing process actually come out a stronger couple in the end. We are getting lessons in patience, organization, saving money, and planning like other couples will take years to accumulate.

I send my hugs to you all and hope you get your approvals soon.

Are you all calling? My online status did not change until we were sent to NVC. So do not rely only on the apps or website. Calling and talking to tier 2 is the safest bet.

Good luck. 💜💙💜💙

I'm sorry...it seems that you don't use I-864 for the K-1 visa. My apologies.

28 minutes ago, jgschuck said:

Hi everyone, 

 

I am still in college as well as work a few part time jobs, and I do not meet the requirements at this time to sponsor my fiance by myself. However, my mother agreed to becoming the joint/co-sponsor for us. But we do not know if this changes anything. 

 

Is there a special form when having a joint sponsor? Are there extra steps we should take to be careful or avoid any delays?

 

Any help would greatly be appreciated!

Hello,

If your mother and you live in the same household, you will have her fill out the I-864A and you will mail it in the same package as your own I-864. She will need to include her own tax transcripts (and W-2 if she filed with her husband) for the past 3 years, a letter of employment, paystubs for the past 6 months, and proof like mail addressed to her to show you both live in the same house.

If she does not live in the same household as you, she will fill her own I-864 and select the option in part one that says "I am the only joint sponsor". Then she will still include all of the evidence mentioned above. 

52 minutes ago, JessieABC said:

Based on your response of not having yet submitted your I-864, and that you'll be living there until he immigrates, that puts your temporary residence in Uganda for the next 5-6+ months.  This means you should submit evidence that you intend in good faith to reestablish your domicile in the United States no later than the date of the intending immigrant's admission or adjustment of status.  This isn't a huge issue since it's not over a year, and yes, this creates a little bit of extra paperwork but better than having your travel history spot-checked and having to explain it at the interview.

I'm sure immigration officials can understand why a wife would want to reside with her husband temporarily until the visa process completes so it's not a red flag if you state you live overseas temporarily in a letter, but I'm not sure what to tell you.  Personally, I wouldn't take the chance since they I wouldn't want to risk a nasty surprise at the interview.

 

You could always provide a written letter with bank information/valid driver's license which shouldn't be too difficult:

• http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-overseas-us-citizen-proves-us-domicile-form-i-864-sponsorship.html
• http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/372920-i-864-affidavit-of-support-sponsors-domicile-not-in-the-usa/

Per the NVC:

 

 

 

 

JessieAbc,

Thank you for always taking time to give thoughtful and helpful responses along with supporting links and discussions. I truly appreciate you.

I will go ahead and change my i-864 info to have my Ugandan address, then. I also feel that showing we live together is just further evidence of a bonafide relationship. 

So I am going to write a letter of proof of domicile and attach proof in the form of mail addressed to me, current driver's license, voter's registration card, bank letter, and all my pay stubs already have my address there. Oh, and car insurance. 

Does that sound comprehensive enough? I don't have property  taxes or a lease document....

2 minutes ago, JessieABC said:

Your agent will be the individual legally representing you throughout the entire nvc process which takes approximately 3-6 months (and sometimes more). They will receive all your information / correspondence and can respond on your behalf. It's really up to you who you choose as the agent and how easy it is for you to correspond with her throughout the process of you select her as your agent.

 

The I-864 should reflect accurate information about the sponsor. If she's your joint sponsor, her number should be listed on her I-864 and yours on your form. If she's listed as the agent, I'm sure they would call her but I doubt they'll call you for anything within a week or two (if ever) and if they do, I'm sure they'll leave a message. Really depends on how long you're leaving for.

Ok, so my understanding is that I should not list her phone numbers as mine. So I won't have an American number when i leave. Do I just put my Ugandan phone number instead? Won't this raise issues about domicile? I will be in Uganda until I can come back with my husband, so that is roughly 6 months or more.

Hello everyone, 

I have a question for the I-864. Since i am leaving the USA on Wednesday of this week, can I list my mother's phone numbers as my (sponsor's) contact numbers?

If I list hers and she is also our joint sponsor, will this become an issue? Should I list her as our agent so that she can call NVC for us?

Thanks,

Goobie2

Greetings, 

I am making triplicates of all my paperwork...the originals, the copy we will mail in, and the one we will keep in case of any problem. 

We (myself and joint sponsor) recently received our tax transcripts for the past three years. I am wondering if I need to make copies of the very first page in the packet that says something like "Information About the Request We Received". This does not seem like a necessary page, but I don't want to risk having "altered" the transcripts by not including them.

Thanks,

Goobie2

Hello everyone,

I hooe this finds you all moving along at a steady pace.

We got our NOA2 which says we were apprived on May 4th. Our case was at Nebraska. When should we start calling to see if we have arrived at NVC and gotten a case number?

Thanks,

Goobie2

54 minutes ago, vizthum said:

It isn't the same for us. Our NOA1 is October 6, 2016, and no end in site. I hope all is well for you and your case is completed soon.

Im so sad to hear you are still waiting. I thought we were the last of the early Octobers.

My thoughts are with you.

55 minutes ago, Mido&Emi said:

Days keep passing by and I keep getting frustrated. I hardly sleep. Maybe 3 hours a night, not sure. IS anyone else experiencing stress to a degree? I'm going into 8 months of waiting for my noa2. VJ says between may 18 to may 28 I should have my case adjudicated but sometimes I lose hope. 

 

Anyway, sorry for the bummer post. If anyone has gotten approved or at least a notice, can you update us please?

Hi there,

I know this gets frustrating to hear over and over, but Im going to say it because I have lived it now....HANG IN THERE.

Our NOA2 just came yesterday. Our PD was Oct 13th, so you still most likely have a couple of weeks. I know that isnt fun to hear. I am telling you because I want you to know that it is "the norm" for Nebraska.

You are not alone in feeling stressed. I actually turned off ntofications of similar cases because it was giving me anxiety to hear and then see all the cases around us get approved. Each time my phone alerted me, I held my breath, thinking it might be us this time around.

The ONLY reason I found out we got approved is because I called on Monday. The first person told us we were still being processed, so I asked for tier 2. It was tier 2 that told me we were approved. Sure enough, I found a letter in the mail that afternoon.

This is a very trying process...it can wreak havoc on your nerves, especially if your spouse is having medical issues in a country with poor medical services!

But trust me, your approval will come. I believe the estimated wait time is pretty accurate. 

If you havent already, give USCIS a call. Who knows? Yours could get approved like ours, with no notifications at all.

(By the way, ours still shows as only recieved on the website and in the apps. And we havent gotten any email or text message. All we have is the actual NOA2 and confirmation from Tier 2.

Good luck, stay strong, and get your AOS and IV packets organized.

JessieABC, you gave me some advice a few days ago about an I-864 question, part 6, blah blah blah. 

Anyway, you suggested I join thos group, but I replied that there would be no point, since we hadnt gotten our I-130 approved yet.

Well guess what, my friend? I called today as I do every Monday to see if I might get some useful info, and found out we were approved on May 4th! 

So we might be joining this group afterall!

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓😛

Well my friends, this has been the happiest I have felt in about 7 months!

We got approved!

I actually called this morning as I do each week to inquire if anything has changed. I got a call back from Tier 2 three hours after I called and spoke with a Tier 1 who told me we were not approved.

So when Tier 2 called, the guy asked me a lot of security questions. They usually only ask my name, case # amd form type, so I was thinking maybe they were going to say we got an RFE or we are in security checks.

Instead, the guy said, "are you aware of how this works?" And Im like....yeah. Im calling for any info you can give me apart from what your website says. And then he told me we were approved on May 4th! 

You can only imagine my excitement. I cried, hahahaaa!!! He really made my day.

So when I got home, sure enough, there was tje letter in the mail box.

The reason I am sharing all this is that Tier 1 shows we are still not approved, but Tier 2 knows we are! And we didnt get any updates from the website or apps.

So calling could actually let you know sooner than the mail if you dont get electronic updates.

Our pd was October 13th. This has been a looooong and trecherous road. As much as I was really getting tired of hearing others say this, DONT LOSE HOPE!!! 

I love you all, and I am cheering you all on.

The Goobies

We were approved May 4th!

 

You're welcome!  Once you send in your documents and get a scan date, come join the May Scan Date thread for mail processing so we can track each others' progress!

• NVC - May 2017 Scan Dates - Method 4: Mail processing

 

Eh, I doubt we will be submitting in May. We haven't been approved for our I-130 yet. October 13th is our priority date. Nebraska is so insanely behind, and our expected dates of approval just keep getting pushed further and further back.

I have to prepare everything now though, because I am going back to Uganda on the 17th of this month. My mom will add the cover letters and barcodes and mail both NVC packets for us. It is so nerve wracking to leave such a crucial step in the hands of another person. I have faith she will do fine, though.

Good luck to you in whatever stage you are in.

 

 

• #1. It is anticipated income, not what the sponsor paid in taxes last year.  The I-864 in Part 6, line 5, asks the sponsor to indicate his or her “current individual annual income.” This phrase is key and every word is significant.  “Current” means what he or she anticipates earning this calendar year.  That may be easy to calculate in December, but more difficult early in the year.  So be prepared to ask your client for proof of what he or she is currently earning and likely to have earned by the end of the year. “Individual” means only report what the sponsor himself or herself is planning to earn, not what the sponsor and his/her spouse are earning jointly. “Annual” means what the sponsor is likely to earn this year. This figure, supplemented with any additional household members’ income on Part 6, line 10, will determine if the sponsor’s income is sufficient for his or her household size.  If the anticipated income is more than they paid taxes on last year, then include proof to support your estimate, such as pay stubs and a letter from their employer. Finally, “income” includes both taxable and nontaxable income, including certain federal or state benefits.  For example, include social security retirement or disability, as well as unemployment or workers compensation.  But do not include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the aged, blind, or disabled, and do not include Temporary Assistance for Needy Children (TANF). In addition, do not include interest income.

In other words, if you stop working, your expected current annual income is what you have made thus far and not $0 (unless you have no reported income for which you will be filing taxes for next year).

 

if you're using a joint sponsor's income to meet the requirements, whether or not you are employed is irrelevant for the purpose of the I-864 as long as the income satisfies the financial requirements.  NVC is mainly concerned with whether the intending immigrant will be a public charge.  

 

As for whether or not it gets sent back...just make sure you include the correct forms and accurate information , especially when it comes to household counts, and that any income numbers match tax transcripts/returns.  There's always a risk NVC loses paperwork or sends a false checklist so just be well prepared and keep your fingers crossed.

 

Good luck!

Thank you so much for your guidance. I do appreciate you! 

 

how can i talk to a tier2 i'm very desperate i'm going to be  7 months waiting,  are there any october filters still with no answer?

There are many of us from October who are still waiting....Im October 13th and haven't gotten any useful info from calling.

To get a tier 2, ask the tier 1 to transfer you. They will send your call to an automated answering service where you will set up a call back. It can take less than 1 hour for tier 2 to call back, or a full day.

I guess I can put what I have made so far? I doubt we will be back in the US before November, and I never have the luck of getting a job in just one month. So I will just tally up what I have made so far.

Are we sure this is ok, though? I am so worried of getting it sent back because I will be unemployed by the time the I-864 is submitted.

 

Try the following:

• https://cliniclegal.org/resources/five-most-common-mistakes-completing-i-864, and

If your month-to-date income + your expected income for the year don't exceed the poverty lines, you will need to have a joint sponsor unless you have assets to cover the gaps.

Yes, I have a household member combining income with me...i just hate to put $0 because it will look like I haven't been working. I already read through those things but didn't get any clarifications.

Thank you though.

 

My PD is October 14 in Nebraska and it's so frustrating with this wait esp seeing that most people after me are getting approvals. I called USCIS yesterday and they told me I should hear something back by May 18-20 if not then to call back and submit an inquiry that it is over processing time

Ruby, we are October 13th. I called last week and got the rudest Tier 1 ever. She basically insulted me by saying that I need to stop calling when all they can do is tell me the same thing. She refused to transfer me to a Tier 2. I didn'twrite down her badge # because she said it so fast, but I doubt it would help anyway.

So you were told that if you don't get a reply by the 20th to call back then? I wonder why some people get helpful info, and others of us get nothing. This b***h just told me to look for when October 13th is listed as the current processing date, and THEN and ONLY THEN can I rightfully call back.

I actually cried after this call. All i wanted was to know if our case had even been looked at yet. I totally get that they answer countless calls all day long. But they need to be compassionate and understand these are families who are in desperate need of information about their case. We aren't calling about some material object.

Greetings everyone,

I have searched for answers here, but it seems no one has had the same experience as me, or at least hasn't written about it yet.

On May 17th, I will be leaving my job to return to my husband's country, and I will stay there until he has his visa in hand. This is going to be for no less than 6 months. 

The question #2 on part 6 of the I-864 says, "My current individual annual income is:". I have absolutely no idea what to put. My income is actually going to stop, so should I just put an estimate of what I have made so far this year?

Thanks for the help. I truly appreciate this website and all the contributors. 

Okay 10/13 filers...my app shows that 10 of us have been approved and one got an RFE. So I am hoping that this means the rest of us will get our approvals by Monday or at LEAST next week!!! 

I see this process as something equivalent to being trapped in an elevator together for hours...it is a thing that only those who go through it can understand. My thoughts and emotions are with you ALL!

One other thing....a few of you answered me about USCIS giving me a call back....well they did, at 10:20pm!!! I stayed on hold with them for 2 hours, you guys. I finally hung up because I had to wake up at 6 am. So I don't see myself ever trying that again. It was do disappointing. I was terrified to hang up, but 2 hours, at that time of the night, was just too much. 

My husbandis worried that they will write a note about me hanging up. I am pretty sure they won't and even if they do, i highly doubt it can cause us any issue.

Good luck to everyone!

2 minutes ago, Msett1 said:

Thank you! I called customer service and requested to talk to a tier 2 since we had been in process for awhile.

Did you have to do the call back service when asking to speak with Tier 2?