Grant PDX

Maybe they couldn't find what they were looking for in that massive stack of papers...
You will have no idea what it is until you receive the hard copy. You won't get any info over the phone. It should arrive in under a week. Just be prepared to move quickly so as not to lose too much time.
Good luck!

By the way, my total package was under 15 pages. It makes it a lot easier to dot the i's and cross the t's when the stack of documents is smaller. They are not looking for quantity, just enough quality to clear the hurdle requirements. In my opinion, make absolutely certain you meet the requirements, but don't overwhelm with too much extra info.
My two cents.

By the way, my total package was under 15 pages. It makes it a lot easier to dot the i's and cross the t's when the stack of documents is smaller. They are not looking for quantity, just enough quality to clear the hurdle requirements. In my opinion, make absolutely certain you meet the requirements, but don't overwhelm with too much extra info.
My two cents.

Every state is different to an extent, although the guidelines do tend to be similar for child support. Spousal support is a whole other animal. I have legal custody of my kids but shared physical. At 50/50 parenting time I will pay about 800 per month. If my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 1500 per month, and I don't make anywhere near 200,000 per year, although I am pretty comfortable. At 200,000 per year, if my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 2,500 per month. Plus spousal support, if required.
Given the number, 1,500 per month does seem low. However, until the full monetary story is known, it's impossible to say what the result might be.
The issue isn't what the minimum cost is to raise children, it's ensuring the kids have a roughly equal standard of living to what they had before and roughly equal between the homes of the two parents. If the kids had a very high standard of living predivorce, you can't say that 1,500 per month would be enough to maintain that high standard. There is an expectation that each parent provide some of the cost of support, however, so it's not entirely the husband's job to provide it.
Spousal support will vary, but it could add up to several thousand dollars per month, or more depending on the situation.

Every state is different to an extent, although the guidelines do tend to be similar for child support. Spousal support is a whole other animal. I have legal custody of my kids but shared physical. At 50/50 parenting time I will pay about 800 per month. If my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 1500 per month, and I don't make anywhere near 200,000 per year, although I am pretty comfortable. At 200,000 per year, if my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 2,500 per month. Plus spousal support, if required.
Given the number, 1,500 per month does seem low. However, until the full monetary story is known, it's impossible to say what the result might be.
The issue isn't what the minimum cost is to raise children, it's ensuring the kids have a roughly equal standard of living to what they had before and roughly equal between the homes of the two parents. If the kids had a very high standard of living predivorce, you can't say that 1,500 per month would be enough to maintain that high standard. There is an expectation that each parent provide some of the cost of support, however, so it's not entirely the husband's job to provide it.
Spousal support will vary, but it could add up to several thousand dollars per month, or more depending on the situation.

Every state is different to an extent, although the guidelines do tend to be similar for child support. Spousal support is a whole other animal. I have legal custody of my kids but shared physical. At 50/50 parenting time I will pay about 800 per month. If my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 1500 per month, and I don't make anywhere near 200,000 per year, although I am pretty comfortable. At 200,000 per year, if my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 2,500 per month. Plus spousal support, if required.
Given the number, 1,500 per month does seem low. However, until the full monetary story is known, it's impossible to say what the result might be.
The issue isn't what the minimum cost is to raise children, it's ensuring the kids have a roughly equal standard of living to what they had before and roughly equal between the homes of the two parents. If the kids had a very high standard of living predivorce, you can't say that 1,500 per month would be enough to maintain that high standard. There is an expectation that each parent provide some of the cost of support, however, so it's not entirely the husband's job to provide it.
Spousal support will vary, but it could add up to several thousand dollars per month, or more depending on the situation.

Every state is different to an extent, although the guidelines do tend to be similar for child support. Spousal support is a whole other animal. I have legal custody of my kids but shared physical. At 50/50 parenting time I will pay about 800 per month. If my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 1500 per month, and I don't make anywhere near 200,000 per year, although I am pretty comfortable. At 200,000 per year, if my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 2,500 per month. Plus spousal support, if required.
Given the number, 1,500 per month does seem low. However, until the full monetary story is known, it's impossible to say what the result might be.
The issue isn't what the minimum cost is to raise children, it's ensuring the kids have a roughly equal standard of living to what they had before and roughly equal between the homes of the two parents. If the kids had a very high standard of living predivorce, you can't say that 1,500 per month would be enough to maintain that high standard. There is an expectation that each parent provide some of the cost of support, however, so it's not entirely the husband's job to provide it.
Spousal support will vary, but it could add up to several thousand dollars per month, or more depending on the situation.

Every state is different to an extent, although the guidelines do tend to be similar for child support. Spousal support is a whole other animal. I have legal custody of my kids but shared physical. At 50/50 parenting time I will pay about 800 per month. If my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 1500 per month, and I don't make anywhere near 200,000 per year, although I am pretty comfortable. At 200,000 per year, if my ex had sole custody I would be paying about 2,500 per month. Plus spousal support, if required.
Given the number, 1,500 per month does seem low. However, until the full monetary story is known, it's impossible to say what the result might be.
The issue isn't what the minimum cost is to raise children, it's ensuring the kids have a roughly equal standard of living to what they had before and roughly equal between the homes of the two parents. If the kids had a very high standard of living predivorce, you can't say that 1,500 per month would be enough to maintain that high standard. There is an expectation that each parent provide some of the cost of support, however, so it's not entirely the husband's job to provide it.
Spousal support will vary, but it could add up to several thousand dollars per month, or more depending on the situation.

The K visa being referred to is the K3. They are essentially obsolete now. They used to be applied for when the CR/IR visas took a long time to process. Now the CR/IR process is about the same length of time as the K-3, so there isn't really any reason to apply for it. It sounds like you are currently pursuing the optimal process, the CR-1.
Best of luck.

Based on the results here, there were 22 NOA2's issued for K-1s yesterday. Wahoo! Things are finally moving. Hopefully this trend continues. Tuesday had a dozen as well, plus the 15 or so between last Friday and this Monday and there were nearly 50 in the last 4 working days.
Good luck to all of us, and let's hope it continues.

If an expedite isn't ready, and the visa isn't approved, and all the arrangements are made and paid for and can't be changed, including family flights etc... One possibility would be to still have the party, but don't have a marriage ceremony. Cut cake, drink wine, dance, throw a bouquet... but don't marry. Then a few weeks later once the K-1 is received, do a justice of the peace wedding. You can certainly have a party on a VWP. Making the most of a bad situation, if the visa hasn't come through.
Good luck!

If an expedite isn't ready, and the visa isn't approved, and all the arrangements are made and paid for and can't be changed, including family flights etc... One possibility would be to still have the party, but don't have a marriage ceremony. Cut cake, drink wine, dance, throw a bouquet... but don't marry. Then a few weeks later once the K-1 is received, do a justice of the peace wedding. You can certainly have a party on a VWP. Making the most of a bad situation, if the visa hasn't come through.
Good luck!

My ex- came to the US on a fiancee visa and passed her original medical. On a later trip back to the Philippines she picked up TB. We didn't know for several months but after it was finally diagnosed she had to have 4 different pills daily for a 6 month treatment. Because of the seriousness of the sickness, the medical folks had to watch her take the pills every day for 6 months. Missing pills can make the TB medication resistant. It is very contagious and if it becomes antibiotic resistant can be a very serious issue. Because it is so prevalent in the Philippines they are serious about the testing, rather than allow entry into the US of such a contagious and potentially deadly disease.
It can be a pain waiting, but it is for the protection of everyone else.

OP, I would be careful here about making assumptions. There are some things that seem very clear in filipino law, but some don't seem clear at all. Normally a mother in this case would have sole right to the children. But if I recall from your previous posts the oldest child has spend significant time in the care of the paternal grandmother. The fact that the child is over 7 and has spent significant time in the father's care (could be just the grandmother, but in court I would expect it to be presented that it's time in the care of the father), I don't think this will be cut a dried. I would get a good local attorney. Although some will say the mother has all the rights, which is normally true, I don't think this case will be as cut and dried.
Another thing, your story presents the father as a horrible human being. This is, I am certain, only coming from one side: your fiancee's. He has done some bad things. At the same time he or his family are taking care of his child, he has gotten his nursing degree, and he's secured a Canadian visa allowing him to go there to work. Put these together and it looks like he's been studying and working hard to secure the future of his family. I'm not saying this to say he's a great person, but there is a whole other story here that I'm sure you're not seeing, but will certainly be presented if this goes to court. If his family has contacts that ease his ability to get the judgement that he wants, there is a fair amount of risk for your fiancee. Given the "other side of the story" they may very well be able to present your fiancee as the "bad" person and the ex-boyfriend as the one who has been working for years to provide for the future of his family. Again, I'm not supporting him, just trying to give the alternative view that may work against your fiancee in any future custody battle.
Sorry you find yourself in this situation, but you may be in for a difficult battle in the future. IMHO, your fiancee must get a good local attorney ASAP and get this moving.

OP, I would be careful here about making assumptions. There are some things that seem very clear in filipino law, but some don't seem clear at all. Normally a mother in this case would have sole right to the children. But if I recall from your previous posts the oldest child has spend significant time in the care of the paternal grandmother. The fact that the child is over 7 and has spent significant time in the father's care (could be just the grandmother, but in court I would expect it to be presented that it's time in the care of the father), I don't think this will be cut a dried. I would get a good local attorney. Although some will say the mother has all the rights, which is normally true, I don't think this case will be as cut and dried.
Another thing, your story presents the father as a horrible human being. This is, I am certain, only coming from one side: your fiancee's. He has done some bad things. At the same time he or his family are taking care of his child, he has gotten his nursing degree, and he's secured a Canadian visa allowing him to go there to work. Put these together and it looks like he's been studying and working hard to secure the future of his family. I'm not saying this to say he's a great person, but there is a whole other story here that I'm sure you're not seeing, but will certainly be presented if this goes to court. If his family has contacts that ease his ability to get the judgement that he wants, there is a fair amount of risk for your fiancee. Given the "other side of the story" they may very well be able to present your fiancee as the "bad" person and the ex-boyfriend as the one who has been working for years to provide for the future of his family. Again, I'm not supporting him, just trying to give the alternative view that may work against your fiancee in any future custody battle.
Sorry you find yourself in this situation, but you may be in for a difficult battle in the future. IMHO, your fiancee must get a good local attorney ASAP and get this moving.

I absolutely don't see prenups as a trust issue. Millions of people with the very best intentions, faith in god, love, and trust, and all those things.... get divorced. To say "it'll never happen to me", well, let's just say 100% of people who marry think the same thing. A prenup is NOT about trust. It's about making sure our partner will be ok, even if our marriage ends for ANY reason. It could be death, could be divorce. Who knows? The point is, IF it ends, the two people have discussed what will happen afterwards. And if you have a prenup, you had the discussion when you were both madly in love and didn't want the other person hurt. Isn't that the best time for the discussion? Not when it's ending/ended and someone might be hurt or angry?
Have a rational discussion. Talk about the "what ifs". Take care of each other with a solid agreement. Love is great but we all live in the real world. Like it or not, some people who are madly in love now will have a marriage end. It's not a trust issue, it's a love issue. You do it because you love each other, and even if the marriage breaks down at some point you made sure to take care of her/his needs when you were crazy in love, not after when there's bickering and hurt.
In the prenup I'm working on it will spell out what each gets in the EVENT of a breakdown. I will absolutely make sure she's taken care of. I don't expect a breakdown, I'm madly in love and I trust my fiancee. But I can't predict the future and I want to make sure we are BOTH ok if things come to and end. I don't ever hope for that. I hope to put the paper away and never see it again. But if there is an end, at least we both have assurance that we took care of each other way before, when we were driven by love, not anger, pain, etc.

I absolutely don't see prenups as a trust issue. Millions of people with the very best intentions, faith in god, love, and trust, and all those things.... get divorced. To say "it'll never happen to me", well, let's just say 100% of people who marry think the same thing. A prenup is NOT about trust. It's about making sure our partner will be ok, even if our marriage ends for ANY reason. It could be death, could be divorce. Who knows? The point is, IF it ends, the two people have discussed what will happen afterwards. And if you have a prenup, you had the discussion when you were both madly in love and didn't want the other person hurt. Isn't that the best time for the discussion? Not when it's ending/ended and someone might be hurt or angry?
Have a rational discussion. Talk about the "what ifs". Take care of each other with a solid agreement. Love is great but we all live in the real world. Like it or not, some people who are madly in love now will have a marriage end. It's not a trust issue, it's a love issue. You do it because you love each other, and even if the marriage breaks down at some point you made sure to take care of her/his needs when you were crazy in love, not after when there's bickering and hurt.
In the prenup I'm working on it will spell out what each gets in the EVENT of a breakdown. I will absolutely make sure she's taken care of. I don't expect a breakdown, I'm madly in love and I trust my fiancee. But I can't predict the future and I want to make sure we are BOTH ok if things come to and end. I don't ever hope for that. I hope to put the paper away and never see it again. But if there is an end, at least we both have assurance that we took care of each other way before, when we were driven by love, not anger, pain, etc.

No one gets married planning for divorce, but many couples do get divorced, that is the reality. I was married. I never planned to get divorced. By my now ex (filipina) wanted to leave after she met a boyfriend after 5 years of marriage.
I now have 2 little boys. And a fiancee I love very much. My number one goal is to protect the future of my two boys. My other number one goal is to have a successful happy life with my future wife.
But nobody knows what the future holds. If, at some point in the future, we decide to get divorced it's very possible that one or both of us could be extremely hurt and/or angry. Right now we are very much in love. Isn't now a better time to hammer out what we would do IF we were ever to separate? If we are hurting or angry in the future, we could have a very painful, expensive, and time consuming divorce. The only winner would be the attorneys. Since we are happy and in love right now, isn't now a good time to have a reasonable discussion about what we would do if the unfortunate happens in the future? Right now we would give each other the world. Let's get that down in an agreement, so if the worst happens, we at least know that we have some pieces of a divorce already settled, at a time when we loved each other and hopefully were very fair with each other.
I have proposed a prenup to my fiancee. She was ok with having that discussion. I spoke with an attorney who will help me write up a prenuptual agreement. I am asking that it be a very two sided document. After my fiancee arrives in the US we (she) will hire an attorney for her and I hope we can nail down a very fair agreement, that will never ever be used. But if that unfortunate thing happens one day, at least we have an agreement written when we were very much in love as the basis for any other proceedings. I think that is a very good place to start.
My two cents.

You are going to have a lot more success in the Divorce process than the ICE process. Even if you get hurt in the divorce, I expect nothing will come out of the immigration side stuff. You can submit all you want, and at least they will have a file. I've seen too many others post with solid cases where it seems nothing happens. Based on what you've said, I don't see a rock solid case of fraud. Go ahead and send it in, but only if it makes you feel "complete" to do so.
On the divorce side, if you can do the annulment I'd recommend it. If it's not possible you can potentially limit your liability with a good attorney. Having recently looked at a Pre-Nup, I understand that if she didn't have an attorney for that process, her current attorney can pretty easily rip it up. It varies state by state, but I'm looking at the possiblity of setting one up with my future wife (mostly to protect assets for my kids) and it was very strongly suggested to me that my future wife hire an attorney for that. Otherwise it is close, not totally there but very close, to worthless. It can be ripped apart by a competent attorney.
Focus on the divorce, get a good attorney. If you had significant asset increases or changes during your brief marriage she could have hooks into them. Pre-marital assets are yours unless they look comingled. Again, it varies state by state, but having gone through the process in the not too distant past, protect yourself.
Good luck!

When you marry you follow the laws of the country in which you marry. When you divorce, if you're in the US, you divorce according to the laws of the state where you divorce. Generally, you have to live in a state for at least 6 months to be considered a resident of that state. After that period of time you follow your state's laws. Just because you marry in the Philippines doesn't mean you divorce there.
Worst case, you divorce, she gets custody of any kids, she gets spousal support, you're on the hook forever for the I-864 (if she never leaves the US, never becomes a citizen of the US, and never can show 40 quarters of payments to Social Security). It's not 40 quarters of work, it's 40 quarters of payments into Social Security.
My ex-wife, Filipina, after 5 years of marriage met a guy and ran off with him after knowing him for 3 weeks. There were signs, she's not the norm, I believe, but we had a child together and I adopted her oldest son. We could have had worst case scenario EXCEPT, she had gotten citizenship so I was off the hook, I got custody of both kids so I avoided over $1,500 in monthly child support (and I got to keep our kids who are much better off with me), she felt guilty so we had a quicky divorce and I avoided up to $2,000 per month of spousal support for up to 30 months.
My worst case would have been losing my kids to a household with a convicted felon (her bf), $3,500 in monthly support (more than they make combined), and on the hook for any state support.
Worst case is tough to define for your situation, and most of the above would have happened had she been a citizen born in the US.
If you are simply asking about your ability to divorce, it depends on your home state. If you are still living in the same state as you were when you previously divorced, then you already know the laws.

When you marry you follow the laws of the country in which you marry. When you divorce, if you're in the US, you divorce according to the laws of the state where you divorce. Generally, you have to live in a state for at least 6 months to be considered a resident of that state. After that period of time you follow your state's laws. Just because you marry in the Philippines doesn't mean you divorce there.
Worst case, you divorce, she gets custody of any kids, she gets spousal support, you're on the hook forever for the I-864 (if she never leaves the US, never becomes a citizen of the US, and never can show 40 quarters of payments to Social Security). It's not 40 quarters of work, it's 40 quarters of payments into Social Security.
My ex-wife, Filipina, after 5 years of marriage met a guy and ran off with him after knowing him for 3 weeks. There were signs, she's not the norm, I believe, but we had a child together and I adopted her oldest son. We could have had worst case scenario EXCEPT, she had gotten citizenship so I was off the hook, I got custody of both kids so I avoided over $1,500 in monthly child support (and I got to keep our kids who are much better off with me), she felt guilty so we had a quicky divorce and I avoided up to $2,000 per month of spousal support for up to 30 months.
My worst case would have been losing my kids to a household with a convicted felon (her bf), $3,500 in monthly support (more than they make combined), and on the hook for any state support.
Worst case is tough to define for your situation, and most of the above would have happened had she been a citizen born in the US.
If you are simply asking about your ability to divorce, it depends on your home state. If you are still living in the same state as you were when you previously divorced, then you already know the laws.

When you marry you follow the laws of the country in which you marry. When you divorce, if you're in the US, you divorce according to the laws of the state where you divorce. Generally, you have to live in a state for at least 6 months to be considered a resident of that state. After that period of time you follow your state's laws. Just because you marry in the Philippines doesn't mean you divorce there.
Worst case, you divorce, she gets custody of any kids, she gets spousal support, you're on the hook forever for the I-864 (if she never leaves the US, never becomes a citizen of the US, and never can show 40 quarters of payments to Social Security). It's not 40 quarters of work, it's 40 quarters of payments into Social Security.
My ex-wife, Filipina, after 5 years of marriage met a guy and ran off with him after knowing him for 3 weeks. There were signs, she's not the norm, I believe, but we had a child together and I adopted her oldest son. We could have had worst case scenario EXCEPT, she had gotten citizenship so I was off the hook, I got custody of both kids so I avoided over $1,500 in monthly child support (and I got to keep our kids who are much better off with me), she felt guilty so we had a quicky divorce and I avoided up to $2,000 per month of spousal support for up to 30 months.
My worst case would have been losing my kids to a household with a convicted felon (her bf), $3,500 in monthly support (more than they make combined), and on the hook for any state support.
Worst case is tough to define for your situation, and most of the above would have happened had she been a citizen born in the US.
If you are simply asking about your ability to divorce, it depends on your home state. If you are still living in the same state as you were when you previously divorced, then you already know the laws.

There have been folks on this board who were in the situation. They were deemed too married to file a K-1 and not enough married to filed a CR-1. Their best option to to finish the civil wedding then file the CR-1. I'm sure some adjudicators would let it slide, others might not. To save yourself possible aggravation down the road I'd recommend completing the marriage process.
Good luck!

There have been folks on this board who were in the situation. They were deemed too married to file a K-1 and not enough married to filed a CR-1. Their best option to to finish the civil wedding then file the CR-1. I'm sure some adjudicators would let it slide, others might not. To save yourself possible aggravation down the road I'd recommend completing the marriage process.
Good luck!

I have been in a similar situation. Not the same, but in the same zipcode at least. My thought after the cheating was whether this was a one time (or at least a short term) thing or if it was a pattern. If it is a pattern of behavior I don't think it will stop. If it's a one time mistake I think a person can learn and realize it's not ok to do it again.
That's the way I looked at it. I don't really have any advice on the personal side other than agreeing with those above who said take your time, don't make a hasty decision. I usually say if you have a long term problem, don't make a short term decision. Meaning if you are talking about marriage, generally a long term situation, don't make a short term decision, give it time.
Best of luck.
Edit: Ultimately that relationship ended but not without a lot of pain. After it was over I was introduced to my current fiancee as I finally decided that the trust couldn't be rebuilt in a satisfactory way, and I feel trust is the number one more important part of a relationship. My relationship now has a solid foundation of trust and I am very happy with my situation.