LSnBigBear

OP... Please read my section on how to report marriage fraud to FDNS, congrats you are a victim of marriage fraud, if there are no proofs of bona fide marriage she may have trouble I will send you a pvt message on how to talk to USCIS and do not worry to much about I864. Op I STRONGLY caution you STAY AWAY from this person BREAK ANY AND ALL CONTACT in order to avoid a abuse charge. Do not be alone with her even for 30 seconds you could find yourself facing a domestic violence charge, ISTRONGLY URGE you to never speak with this woman again. DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THIS WOMAN ACCEPT IN A PUBLIC PLACE OR WITH A WITNESS PRESENT.

The child is not in the US so he doesn't have to support the child.
Also the I-864 is a contract between the US government and him. If she obtains benefits he may have to pay it back. There is the line about supporting the immigrant but as she's not a party to the contract this is rarely enforced and she will be required to attempt to sue him for that support.
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OP - You've been here 2 months. You have a GC. Depending on the length of your marriage you may be entitled to spousal support but it also depends on his income and your state laws.
If you have a 2 year GC then you MUST file for ROC as soon as your divorce is final. You will need to show proof of relationship/co-mingling in order to get ROC approved. You have not been abused, you just married a deadbeat.
He should file for divorce so you can have it recognised in the Philippines otherwise if/when you return to the Philippines you will never be able to marry there.

San Diego.
I agree with 99% of your below with the exception of her ex having to withdraw. Here is my story:
I petitioned back in 2006. Broke it off in the 11th hour in 2007 when I became suspicious of her. I called first USICS to call it off and cancel. I was told it was too late from there end as Manila had the case (our i129f was already approved).. I called Manila and was told "just tell her to not come for her interview" I emailed her and told her it was cancelled. I believe she attended her interview and came to the USA on my K1. She phoned me a few times begging me to cancel the petition. I said no as I knew she was in USA with another man (Cebu is a small place as I lived there for years so news travels fast) .. Therefore I not only petitioned two but had two approved (trust me I am not proud of this but just saying). However I was upfront and honest when I applied for my now wife that is here with me. I explained with about a 2 page letter and included my ex as past petition.. This is all odd to me as to what is going on. I know I feel for the OP at this time.

Well if you are worried then maybe your paranoia is warranted.. I have many years experience and myself many many past paranoias.. Fraud is an ugly word unless true so be careful when accusing..
Ask yourself a few question that only you know.. Are you normally non-trusting?? If so then look at your fiancee and ask yourself why you feel this way??? I was burnt before in RP but some due to my own issues which brings its own paranoia.. Just because her sisters did one thing does not mean she will. Mayhe her sisters now have regrets that your fiancee does not want. Dig down why she wants to put her kids in school elsewhere..
I know I am not much help as this is a tough one. Only you know your gut feeling and what you are witnessing. By all means if this all is not passing your smell test then DO NOT Marry her.. You should talk it out with her. Watch her movements.. Filipinas are not good liars if you peel back layers and are good at cross examining.. I know that sounds bad but this is process of elimination in terms of what is in your mind..
Good luck
Shawn

I want to give an update on my soon to be wife's (now I can say this as she is next to me ) travel this past March 1st. She was on PAL to China then American Airlines to Ft Myers. Ticket purchased on Cheapoair for $817
1) Checked in at Philippine Airline 3am (she was anxious lol) for her 6:30am flight. Paid only 550p exit fee which surprised me.
2) They gave her all three boarding passes which surprised me. Luggage checked through to Ft Myers but was told to re-claim and re check in at China and of course POE at Ohare in Chicago.
3) She arrived China 9:30am. Got her luggage and went back through security to AA ticket counter. Was told she had to wait until 2pm as they were not ready to re check in until then as her flight was 6pm. NO Transfer Visa required. She said China Airport was lonely as no other Filipinas to talk with and China Airport employees speak little English.
4) Checked in all the way through to Ft Myers.
5) Flight good no issues. Arrived right on time at 5:30pm Friday evening at Ohare. This is where the wait and delays started.
6) I had given her a 2 hour layover as MOST POE's are timely. NOT Ohare though so note this as she was in line for 2 hours. Actual interview 2 minutes. Wait two hours for two minutes... Grrrrr. Just asked her purpose of trip, packet and that was all.
7) Missed her connecting flight at 7:30pm due to 2 hr wait for 2 mins. AA was good and rebooked her on United which was leaving 8:20 so she had to run. Got to the gate and it was closed.. Thank God delayed 1:15min or she would not have made the last flight to Ft Myers. She arrived 1:41am Saturday. I am so happy but nervous wreck as she never phoned me about her delays. I waited with her Valentines Candy and camera in hand for her and she never showed. I was a wreck, I finally after searching for 30mins got composed and called AA. They confirmed she was over Atlanta on United and explained what happened. So I happily waited for two more hours for her arrival. As for service I do recommend American Airlines as they were wonderful to her.
As for Chicago Ohare Airport.. Avoid avoid avoid. Which my cheap &ss knew but did it anyway as my family lives less than 2 hrs away and could go get her if she had problems versus Detroit or other POE's. I give my little wife to be all the credit in the world.. I am so proud of her as she stayed calm and got her 8000 miles alone. What a woman. I am so happy to have her ....
Words of advice for fiancee's/husbands going through this like I did.
*** When you send your fiancee your packet for interview, send a cellphone in the packet with your US number pre-loaded so she can contact you after POE. I sent plenty of cash for travel just in case. She also had instructions to call me via pay phone if she was delayed. I told her I could track her flights. She thought I knew she was not on the AA flight and on United (miscomunication on her thinking I was tracking her and not the flight). Spell everything out to your love....... I don't want anyone feeling what I felt waiting and not knowing...
I hope this all helps.. Good luck.

Right on.

Right on.

PAL is the only airline I believe that asks for this due to past fraud I guess. I heard that some just show them all of their fiancee's Visa docs, i.e letter of intent etc as fiancee/petitioners do not want to give out the credit card for obvious reasons. I just scanned in my cc blacking out most of the numbers and drivers license. I am certain that is enough so you are good. Also for others reading, PAL does not question as often unless the entire trip is booked via PAL. If you use Orbitz or another low cost webline then PAL is already paid and does not have the liability.
GOod luck everyone.

I would believe this when the USICS website updates. I myself tend to not read much into anything legal in this case unless it ends in .gov

You must be a realist here and understand the chances (as others mentioned) for your parents to be approved are really against them. Here is a simple checklist as I have tried to petition an employee while I worked in MEPZA Cebu and he was turned down for training in the USA from a Forbes 500 Co. Sponsoring. And I had a friend get turned down, parents of a friend turned down and one approved.. Here is what I know:
Do your parents have assets in the Philippines totally 1 million or more? And no your fiancee cannot start depositing money in their accounts. The Embassy knows this game and checks dates and deposit amounts. If they have over 1 million then they have over 50% chance of being approved.
If they have housing, land (deeded to them) in excess of 1 million pesos then they have a positive chance of being approved.
If they have business or employment that pays them very well (if so then the savings should reflect this) then they have a good chance of being approved.
If they traveled to other countries like Japan, Australia, N. Zealand or UK etc and did not over stay they have a chance at being approved.
Having children or family members in the RP will not even be looked at by the CO as many filipinos leave their familes for work abroad.
I wish you the best of luck. I would vote for a webcam and wifi and have them look in from afar. And in time go back and have ceremony in the RP for them if they are not approved in May.
Good luck. I just want to let you know it is not easy with some examples for you to go by. And if they have 700,000p- 1 million this is close enough for some OP's. Much less and maybe not so as the OP will believe they can earn and save this in 2 years working in the USA if they stay beyonf their Visa.

I would stay away from this topic or even submitting with a 10 foot pole or longer. One does not want to place any negative health related concerns as others mentioned in her permanent file. I lived in the Philippines and understand some of the living conditions. Keep in mind chances are the process being expedited will not help her emotions IMO. Her living conditions I am assuming are the same as when she met you so this should not be an issue unless there is some sort of abuse there.
I suggest some sort of help for her there to deal with her emotions as possibly she will bring those same emotions to you which is okay if you are able to work through it. Keep in mind the separation anxiety she will have from her family when she arrives will be emotional as well.
Find on line hobbies for you and her. My fiancee and I watched Grumpy Old Men last night as I just turn my lap top to my tv and we watch together. There are many ways to make this process more enjoyable.
Good luck to you. Tough position you are in.

Sorry to hear about your ordeal. It is very customary for foreigners to get a Cenral/S. American Country Visa from countries like Russia & others that are on the high US immigration fraud list where they enter from south of the boarder illegally. You cannot fault the boarder and immigration agents as everyone is suspious until proven innocent. I have traveled to 15 countries and the Juarez-El Paso boarder is the most stressful I have ever been through.
Due to the above Mexico has cracked down on Visas for European and Asian travelers due to their joint effort with the USA on illegals.
in your case my suggestion is obtain an immigration Attorney and explain what transpired along with all of your paperwork given at the boarder. Let him go to work for you. You will likely be unable to accomplish as much and as timely on your own. I do not like Attorneys for simple Visas. But now your situatution warrants the experience they have.
Good luck

I think everyone needs to throw out the old 5-6 months timeline which is 150-180 days. Most are taking in excess unless you are the luck of the draw. Most around our timeline got their NOA2 in 180 days. Ours took 208 but my guess our delay is due to my past filing of an ex fiancee that I broke off during the process. Well in a nut shell once you hit 200 days start calling and ask for a Service Request.

Age is doesn't matter to me it just a number. Some say it shameful to have a bf/gf which older to you well i say No..
why do i feel shy or shame if you love that person truly? I'am 23 years old Filipina my boyfriend is 45 white guy and i feel better to be with
him. We know each other, we love each other and more we understand each other. As some people says that were not "fit" or what other term, because he is big and tall were me is small and short. I replied, so what who care its not bout the sizes and the age its about you the both of you. Its not about the people around who gives color to the relationship, it is you and him both of you. Im gladly proudly to say that we are so happy of what we have now in our relationship. I love Shawn and no one can change my feelings to him. Even thought were ocean apart but we can stand our love for any test of time as we have strong faith trust to each other.
Carmela

For those few that made comments about the USA being hypricritical etc about prostitution and Victoria Secret, Playboy etc. Understand it is not a punishment for the fiancee but more of a protection. The Philippines #1 export item or product is its people to other countries for work or marriage. More times it is all legitimate work on Cruise Ships, Medical or Serving in homes etc. But there are many cases where people earn money by a third party to bring a woman or man to their home country i.e here in the US or Europe etc to be sex slaves. It is all real and sad. I worked as a volunteer at two Christian Orphanages in the RP where many of the girls were rescued from family due to being sold for sex labor. Of course the families more time than not are only told their son or daughter will be Hosts, Hostesses in Restaraunts or Maids/Nannies to only be sold into prostitution. It is all real and sad. I saw it first hand. Also keep in mind this happens often internally from poor provincial families. Their sons or daughters or going to Manila or Cebu to work in Restaraunts and will send back X amount monthly to their families. Then once again they are working in a bar for sex. They are torn as to not leave due to their family not getting money and then them being shamed to go back. It is sick but it all happens. Filipinos are raised to support their parents as retirement. Everyone should keep this in mind when venturing down the road of marriage with one. The old saying "you marry a filipina, you marry her family too" is so true in most cases. The OP needs to do a lot of soul searching as I am sure he is very hurt and confused by all of our responses. I feel for you brother. Just do your homework.
Shawn

Hello. You need to give us more information. In addition filling out your timeline may help us as well to see if you received an RFE's. Just so you are aware, It is illegal to petition a person that was or is a prostitute. I believe everyone can change but the USICS has to protect both the USA and the fiancee due to "Human Trafficking" You can appeal if believe your fiancee just was confused and answered wrong.
Good luck!
Shawn AKA Big Bear

Hello. You need to give us more information. In addition filling out your timeline may help us as well to see if you received an RFE's. Just so you are aware, It is illegal to petition a person that was or is a prostitute. I believe everyone can change but the USICS has to protect both the USA and the fiancee due to "Human Trafficking" You can appeal if believe your fiancee just was confused and answered wrong.
Good luck!
Shawn AKA Big Bear

Hello. You need to give us more information. In addition filling out your timeline may help us as well to see if you received an RFE's. Just so you are aware, It is illegal to petition a person that was or is a prostitute. I believe everyone can change but the USICS has to protect both the USA and the fiancee due to "Human Trafficking" You can appeal if believe your fiancee just was confused and answered wrong.
Good luck!
Shawn AKA Big Bear

My suggestion is to research like cases in your area. Chances are being in Arizona there will be many like your fiancee's. Of course Lawyers want our business and most will promise or take your case and make an attempt to win it for you. However you must keep an open mind as to not waste your money if you cannot win. Once again, research similar cases and see what the % of winning a case is. Then move forward if you believe you can win this. Chances are if he was brought here as a minor then you have a chance at winning in the event he has not been arrested or convicted of a felony.
Good luck

Tim/Mav- I agree. I do not believe any male or female working in a bar leasing their services actually wanted to sign up for that type of work. In developing countries it is a means to put food on the table. Then the person's fmaily gets used to the money and wham, before one knows it they have a career they never really wanted to sign up for. Kudos to those that can get away from it and to the OP for trying to make his relationhip work with her...

Tim/Mav- I agree. I do not believe any male or female working in a bar leasing their services actually wanted to sign up for that type of work. In developing countries it is a means to put food on the table. Then the person's fmaily gets used to the money and wham, before one knows it they have a career they never really wanted to sign up for. Kudos to those that can get away from it and to the OP for trying to make his relationhip work with her...

Well I am going to do my best to not pass judgements as I had similar situation happen to me in 2008 after I broke off my K1 in the 11th hour. My ex came here on my petition after I called and withdrew it (mix up USCIS, me and Manila. She got lucky). She was conversing with a man she met after I started the process. I figured out something was not smelling right so I called off the engagement. Long story short. She came here, I never saw or married her and I believe she went back and he started the process for her again. And she is back here in the states with him from what I heard.
So in your case, if this is true love and not for Visa purposes, or the "grass is greener on your side of the fence" then she needs to petition for a divorce and go back legally. Messing with the USCIS and immigration just one time is a lifetime ban. If it is meant to be you should do your best to support her and have her go back to her country and do what her husband did and petition her the proper way. Her not over-staying and going back will look much better in her case. If she stays and divorces him then she will be in for an immigration and legal fight to stay here. Keep in mind she may be thinking short term. Staying here illegally means she will NEVER get to return to her country and visit her family and come back here to be with you. It will be a one way ticket if she over stays. Think long term here and do what is eithical and legal. At the end of the day, consult an immigration attorney as well. But keep in mind some will take your case just for the money when you have no chance on winning.
I wish you the best.
Take care
Big Bear
Better advice than mine..

Well I am going to do my best to not pass judgements as I had similar situation happen to me in 2008 after I broke off my K1 in the 11th hour. My ex came here on my petition after I called and withdrew it (mix up USCIS, me and Manila. She got lucky). She was conversing with a man she met after I started the process. I figured out something was not smelling right so I called off the engagement. Long story short. She came here, I never saw or married her and I believe she went back and he started the process for her again. And she is back here in the states with him from what I heard.
So in your case, if this is true love and not for Visa purposes, or the "grass is greener on your side of the fence" then she needs to petition for a divorce and go back legally. Messing with the USCIS and immigration just one time is a lifetime ban. If it is meant to be you should do your best to support her and have her go back to her country and do what her husband did and petition her the proper way. Her not over-staying and going back will look much better in her case. If she stays and divorces him then she will be in for an immigration and legal fight to stay here. Keep in mind she may be thinking short term. Staying here illegally means she will NEVER get to return to her country and visit her family and come back here to be with you. It will be a one way ticket if she over stays. Think long term here and do what is eithical and legal. At the end of the day, consult an immigration attorney as well. But keep in mind some will take your case just for the money when you have no chance on winning.
I wish you the best.
Take care
Big Bear
Better advice than mine..

I have said many many times. If it were not for kissing, cuddling and sex I would marry my best buddy lol. He understands me and never questions my feelings or gives me guff me Seriously Sorry to the OP. Life is not fair at all and no one truely knows another persons intentions. I am sure you look back now at the many signs she gave you that she was a fraud. However sharing these with any of us will not help as when it is matters of the heart few will think their fiancee is guilty of a fraudulant marriage for Visa. I have tried to give a lot of advice while living in the Philippines as an American. I learned quickly to shut my mouth and let my friends get taken advantage of as all me speaking up did was get my pals angry with me. So I let them learn the hard way. School of hard knocks.
I believe more enter into foreign relationships for a good spouse that is loving and true. I would hang my hat on a foreign woman that is 20 years younger than me versus a bitter old scared American woman. Good luck on your future and sorry you went through this..
Cheers
Shawn

This is from one of the many "Not self-made billionaires" in the world. Oh how it is easy to give advice when you had nannies and maids raise you because you were born into the lucky sperm club. I guess being the daughter of a billionaire himself helps out alot (Lang Hancock). I take advice from self made grew up poor people. Not those like her that inherited wealth. And yes folks I am happy and employed. But I do like my beer
Cheers
Shawn AKA Big Bear