Shoot Em Straight

Ive never been to Italy.

I don't know lost. Does this mean that every time a person does something, the entire country has to be held accountable for it? Do you claim responsibility when someone goes on a shooting spree and they look like you? Have Christian beliefs? Loves the 2nd Amendment?
When you can answer for every evil misdeed caused by Americans, I'll look into this for you.

You need your wife to come here and ask these questions because obviously your English isn't good enough for us to understand

Yes, i do
Im going tomorrow to the nearest mosque , to ask the Imam surely he knows from where to find halal meat,
Good idea
Thanks

The messenger is just posting what has happened in MENA countries. YOUR post is unnecessary.

The messenger is just posting what has happened in MENA countries. YOUR post is unnecessary.

ha At least another 8 more days.
OP if it was me in this situation...Yes I would DHL every piece of proof to the consulate (dont know if Egypt Consulate accepts it or not) but.....
The day before my husbands interview my mother sent an email the consulate in Casa, I spoke to them by phone and they confirmed they received and it had been placed it in his file.
IF you chatted through yahoo...there is a way to condense the months and years so it can show the amount of chat without showing private messages.
Notarized letters (affidavits) from your immediate family stating awareness and approvals of your relationship with your fiance could help, but most of all HIS family would be better!!! You did not mention much about their support of their son/brother/ex and your relationship. As the other ladies from MENA were asking/mentioning/helping with past experiences, not just opinions...... Your differences of Religion might be questioned. Is he really ok with you not being a Muslima? How can he leave his children? Does he have his parents blessings with this?
Your red flags are going to come up in the interview whether you have a lawyer or not.
They will come up whether you liked the posts on VJ or not.
From what your stated....
You "started" your relationship with a married man with the Orfi pass then, He was denied a visitor visa in March, which in normal cases (k1)might not have come in to play except he was going to visit you while still married. (If it comes up will he be able to explain why he would want to come visit a female "friend" leaving his wife and children for just a visit?) I ask because you mentioned he was shy and quiet. The two visas might not intermingle but if you look at the bigger picture....it looks like rapid fire attempts to immigrate. Oh but that is just my opinion.
He divorced in June. You filed a K1 few days after.
Your fiance needs to speak up. Have his facts ready. Be willing to answer in complete sentences and with supporting info. Not just yes or No.
Please take the time to read more in the MENA forum it is really for your benefit.
Respect to the ladies that have already successfully went through this process.
It is no Ka'ak walk.
Good Luck to you and please keep us informed.

The messenger is just posting what has happened in MENA countries. YOUR post is unnecessary.

The messenger is just posting what has happened in MENA countries. YOUR post is unnecessary.

The messenger is just posting what has happened in MENA countries. YOUR post is unnecessary.

hmmm.. what have you contributed to this forum, other than asking a bunch of questions of regarding packet 3 (when you already have a lawyer?), and being rude to people here when you don't get the answers you like?

The messenger is just posting what has happened in MENA countries. YOUR post is unnecessary.

The messenger is just posting what has happened in MENA countries. YOUR post is unnecessary.

Yeah looks like an orfi marriage contract. You can google that to learn more. If it is an orfi contract than from what I have heard it is not legally binding in Egypt.
http://orfi-wives-egypt.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-is-orfi-marriage.html?m=1
I would spend some time preparing for your intercultural marriage/marriage to an arab muslim by reading books and seeking the wisdom of others you can sit down with face to face. There are a lot of great things to think through. Can't speak to your questions too much but do encourage you to seek counsel.

Congratulations!!!!

Congratulations!!!!

Your original question has been answered. What other feedback are you hoping for?

you'd hear it from me, on occassion.

From what you have written, it looks like you are Moroccan and married a woman from Morocco, am I right? I think its not quite as tough for you as it is for a Moroccan marrying an American spouse.

There is no reason to go abroad to Morocco.
There is no reason to find him.
Washington laws allow her to get a divorce in her state without the need to go abroad or to find him.

So, the two lawyers told you what you need to do to get a divorce. You need a court order to meet the alternative to serving him personally.How are you getting that you can't divorce when you have two lawyers telling you that you can if you follow the prescribed procedure when you can not locate your husband?
Your statement that you cannot divorce him without serving him is completely wrong.

Scsummers, Aaron wrote: “The only risk is not getting the visa and be married living in two countries.”
I’ll accept that you and your lady are truly in love, and have developed a legitimate relationship that will endure. So please put what I say into that context.
Aaron is incorrect. The real risk, which is evidenced by the flack that you’re tending to get here, is that, frankly, this has red flags written all over it. Now I realize that red flags, even an abundance of them never, ever proves anything. Red flags are a call to “pay attention.” From my point of view, even if you and she are 101% legit, those red flags are real, and from my few years here, though the “stinkeye protocol” doesn’t formally exist anyplace—in reality, at Consulates it indeed does.
You say: “Please keep personal observations and advice to the lovesick to yourself. I am only interested in what the law says about my situation. ANYTHING I learn here I will use to ask questions when I consult an attorney.”
Well, again, not being in the least cynical, I’ll say: You had best find a really knowledgeable lawyer who deals exclusively with immigration law and whose entire practice is solely American/Philippine immigration. The reason is simple—most lawyers don’t know a lot about specific Consulates—yet they need to. You can hardly find a one who will say: “good question—I really don’t know.”
As far as “law” goes, keep in mind that the “law,” is not always your concept of “law.” For instance routinely State Supreme Courts will get many hundreds of appeals and yet will only “accept” a few. The rest are relegated to Limbo—forever, never to be answered. And btw—this is all legal.
Well, like it or not, Embassy law is very, very much in the same area. Consulates are free to essentially do as they wish. Case in point: Thailand’s Consulate will never, ever allow a child out of Thailand without the express permission of both parents—even if, for instance the father of a child never married the mother, never supported her, and never had contact with the child. This flies in the face of pretty much any State law of America. The point is—with Consulates, attempts to force “the letter of the law,” will usually get you no place. Sad, but true—I’ve been there, done that. If you can spend a few hundred thousand, well—you might get someplace, if not, my suggestion is “give it up,” regardless of how unfair it seems to be—or is, Constitutional Law is not as it once was--you know that already.
Consider that Philippine Consulate’s rules are entirely different. An “unwed child,” under the age of 7 is almost always passed through a K-1 or a marriage Visa without a glance. Different Consulate—different “law.” Reality, like it or not.
Is the “stinkeye” a reality? In my humble opinion—you bet’cha. Do you have to listen, no—of course not. Do as you wish.
But back to “The only risk is not getting the visa and be married living in two countries.”
No the risk is far, far greater. The risk is that like my spouse who came here in November on a K-1, who married me and then dumped me for no reason, apparently not realizing that I could withdraw my Affidavit of Support—you too may be being set-up for something similar. I’m not saying it is so, just that it’s something to consider because in my opinion—the Consulate will consider it.
Hear me out please—in some cases everything will be legit, perhaps like yours—in others, like my case, not so—only to seen in hindsight. For instance I should have seen the light. In her family already, two older sisters had married elderly men with significant medical issues, read, “not too many years to live”. Hey, I won’t even fault that—a lovely Filipina who spends ten or 15 years making a man’s last year’s glorious, well it might make for a fair trade. Maybe my fault was that my spouse decided that I'd just live too long--who knows? I no longer think about it.
Just please realize—that even if in your case you and your lady appear and are in fact, from your point of view to be truly legit—that many here, including me, that see huge red flags. And as we do, so too will most Consulate officials. So you are warned—if you believe 100% that you are not being played, and I will assume that is the case, at least realize that your lady (perhaps for very good reasons) have already set off alarms. So like it or not, you will get the stinkeye (oops—scrutinized closely).
I’d suggest that you just think about how it appears from a distant perspective. And I sure hope that she is, as you undoubtedly are—100% legit. A few days ago I wrote out a $1000 check to a lawyer, bringing the total expended for divorce to $3700, and this is just for the divorce I'm forced into, I'm ignoring the K-1 cost including the $1070 fee that cleared on the same exact day she disappeared. And to think—I was so sure that my fiancée/wife was legit—yes, it blows my mind. But the reality is that especially in the Phils, now that H1-B’s are becoming more and more difficult to acquire (either legitimately or illegitimately) there will be, and in fact, is, at least that is what I expect, an increase in “coached” Visa shopping. “Coaching is where someone usually in the US coaches a relative in how to get here.”
A few red flags that you might want to watch for: Relatives/friends who are in the US, especially if they are illegal, or hold H1-B Visa’s without sufficient credentials, such as a healthcare worker who is not a specialized, experienced RN. And especially watch for relatives that are “hidden,” now that is a deadly flag not to be ignored—when you know many in the family, but there is one or two that you heard about—but for some reason—never get much concrete data about, as was in my case. Also look for relatives/friends who have married men not particularly desirable in America's female materialistic world. Remember red flags never condemn anyone but they are an indication to pay very close attention.
I’m a smart guy—I was duped. Looking back, I will not fault myself, it was that well done. Remember that here in America a Filipina working as a simple LNA (Licensed Nurses Assistant) will earn $41,600 gross. ($20x40x52) Without the LNA, she might earn $41,600 (without overtime) under-the-table--more than if she works legitately. Tell me, which is the best option?
I have a friend who works at a huge nickel mind in Mindanao, her title is Administrator in Charge of Documentation—she has a college degree. She grosses about $250/month. Yes in one year a Filipina who gets to America by any means will earn, at a minimum, if she is smart in one year what my friend earns in almost 14 years. In a mere two years here she can earn what a Filipina in Mindanau with a college degree can earn in a lifetime. And in the eyes of her family, she may be a hero—no thought will ever occur about what happened to that nice guy?
I’m not here to insinuate—but if you cannot see the possibility of fraud well… I’ll let you think about that. And if you believe that there is no possibility, as I did…go for it, but listen—the people here know more than most “immigrant” lawyers do. Look at it from a Consulate official who knows that this year xx thousand Visas will be issued and within so many years the American sponsor will find himself (or herself in the case of some African/Middle East cases) divorced, and the possibly taken “to the laundry.”
If nothing else, I hope this gives you some insight into how others see your case, even if that irks you.
I wish you the best of luck, especially as you have given up so much for your country already. You deserve both a wonderful relationship and one here in the States.

Because there is a statutory prohibition from a K1 beneficiary adjusting status in the US with anyone other than the K1 petitioner.
Even the last general amnesty specifically excluded illegal immigrants in this situation from the amnesty program.
What you suggest is the single worst thing the OP could do, not just for him for the girl as well.

If you want to argue semantics that's fine, but it's not going to help your case in any way. I would listen to what people here say rather than thinking yourself clever.
It also does not mean you have any chance at an expedite. If you really want to submit in your petition "I would have a hardship if this person who is in the country illegally left" then that's entirely your business, and I would love to hear about how that goes. Again, I feel like you're trying to be a little too clever and find a way around the other 500,000 people with petitions out there, but this isn't USCIS' first rodeo, and I can assure you no matter what you think of it's already been done and tried and accounted for.
Your best bet for this petition to be successful is to piece evidence together as quickly as possible, have everything that needs and original signature signed, and then for her to return to her country immediately.

Red flags galore.
Came to USA to marry one chap, didn't marry for whatever reason. Meets new guy just before stay expires. You are going to need some pretty amazing relationship evidence to pull this one off. Your proof of meeting is going to be her ticket/passport stamp into the USA on her K1, at the moment.
If you think you have a hardship waiver case (highly unlikely to get an expedite for hardship sans fiancé - how did you cope in the time before you met her a few weeks ago?), have you checked out the I-134 and I-864? If you are low income you may need to find a joint sponsor.

Welcome to NVC you want to file complaint I advise wait until you are done interview and in US than file away send to the department of State. Do you have operator name? These operators aren't even government employees but merely contractor drones. I am sorry you got a mean butt person who has no clue what we suffer. But suck it up you will be calling again. Just smile and know each day you are closer to being together and don't let anyone take away your joy no matter what.