Karee

My wife has been going to this website to listen to the questions and answers:
http://www.uscitizenpod.com/2009/05/quia-citizenship-teachers-interactive.html

I figured I'd compile a list of warning signs since these questions get asked a lot.
1. Did you bar fine her in Pattaya the first time you met her? The question is the answer on that one.
2. Does she work in Pattaya, but she's from Isaan?
3. Does she work at a girly bar, but only claims to be a hostess?
4. If you did meet her in a bar, does she claim that she she has only been in that line of work for a short period of time? Or that she is only in that line of work so she can send money back home?
5. Is she asking for money for things like family emergencies, English school, or flat out saying I wont work in the bar if you send her enough money? (she'll keep the money and continue working in the bar)
6. When you call her, does her phone go straight to a recording between 8 pm and 4 am Thai time. This is a HUGE one. It could mean she has multiple SIM cards and doesn't want to take calls from you while she's with her Thai boyfriend or she's with a customer. Also, some of the mama sans have rules about them using their phones while working. In Thailand if a phone is powered down, it will not ring at all like it will in the U.S.
7. Does she disappear for days at a time, where you can't get a hold of her, and then comes up with some story about her phone being broken, and then asks you for money for another phone.
8. Wants you to build a house for her parents back on the farm as part of the agreement to marry you
9. Wants you to buy her a car. (Why would you buy her a car if she's planning on moving to the U.S.?)
This is by no means a complete list, but hopefully some will learn from it. I lived in Thailand for 3 years and met my first girlfriend in the bar. I learned most of these things the hard way. It actually took me getting hauled down to the police station with a minor knife wound and threatened with imprisonment if I didn't sign a confession in Thai, before I finally woke up and saw the reality. The good news was that I didn't bring her to the U.S. on a visa.
I know most will be blinded by the hot Asian girl that says they love the farang. I was. There's no shame in that. If you meet one of these girls in the bar, rent, don't buy. It will save you a lot of money and pain in the future.
Keep an eye out for the red flags I've posted above. Especially #6.
Also, do some reading on Stickman.

Actually, I just looked at Stickman, and a lot of the things I posted above are there in this link:
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanBangkokWeeklyColumn2011/Thai-Bargirls-Red-Flags.htm

First thing I would do is send them an email to find out exactly what they want. Also, explain the previous K-1 filing. Send the email to visasbkk2@state.gov. Make sure the subject line of the email looks like this: IV Inquiry BNK2012xxxxxxxx. (The BNK2012xxxxxx number is the case number you got from NVC in the mail.) They're pretty good about responding. Once I get to work, I'll dig up my my embassy experience and post it here. It's somewhat similar to yours. There was a jerk CO there back in 2009 that was pretty much handing out 221g to everyone for awhile. Sounds like they got another one.

I used a lawyer. It was a nightmare. He set me back 3 months minimum. I had to correct him at every step with info I got here on VJ. $1800 down the drain.

While everything you say may be true, I think the point of this thread is to let everyone know the steps that can be taken if one is a victim of fraud. I'm glad Brian posted it, because I can't count the number of times people have come here saying "I've been scammed, what do I do now?" Thankfully Brian posted the steps that need to be taken to try and protect the victims of these scams.

I'll try that. Somehow I think I'll end pulling Taser hooks out of my chest after I flop around on the ground for a few seconds.

He must be getting his financial advice from Oriz.

He must be getting his financial advice from Oriz.

If there was a way to vaporize all the non military owned firearms in the U.S., the U.S. would be a better country.

Yep. I personally think that saying someone has less of a chance in life because of their race at birth is blatant racism. I think it's pretty offensive actually. I think everyone is born equal at day one. Maybe I'm naive.

Don't those people have anything better to do?
"When you swim in the creek and an eel bites your cheek, that's a moray..."

Yeah I didn't see it either. I'm pretty sure if the cops tell you to get on the ground, you're supposed to do that regardless. I'm also fairly sure you're not supposed to pull out your phone, start filming, and then start whining and crying about how you're scared in an obvious attempt to make yourself famous on YouTube.

He must be getting his financial advice from Oriz.

That's what happens when you have a bunch of Mormon guys that have to swear off sex until marriage. Quite a bit of built up anger.

I'm white and I've had cops pull guns on me numerous times. Guess what? I deserved it almost every time. The one time where I didn't deserve it they were just being safe because they thought I was someone else. Surprisingly I did what they told me, and all was good. I didn't pull out my phone, start filming, and turn in to a babbling cry baby.

Yeah I didn't see it either. I'm pretty sure if the cops tell you to get on the ground, you're supposed to do that regardless. I'm also fairly sure you're not supposed to pull out your phone, start filming, and then start whining and crying about how you're scared in an obvious attempt to make yourself famous on YouTube.

He has no idea. He is a self-contained entertainment unit.

He must be getting his financial advice from Oriz.

You should take some of your millions and have someone post on VJ for you. It seems you can afford to pay someone to do a better job.

If there was a way to vaporize all the non military owned firearms in the U.S., the U.S. would be a better country.

And he's videoing the whole thing. Smartass. Good thing he wasn't black or he'd be dead.

Maybe the Kim family has a history of candle making. Electricity is for rich imperialists.

He's an environmentalist at heart.

Who calls the cops? "Don't shoot - I can't breathe!"

Yep. I personally think that saying someone has less of a chance in life because of their race at birth is blatant racism. I think it's pretty offensive actually. I think everyone is born equal at day one. Maybe I'm naive.