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That is not what I gathered from reading the article.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

That is not what I gathered from reading the article.

What is your take on it?  Certain attornies are claiming that it's over.

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16 minutes ago, Jody and Misho said:

Certain attornies are claiming that it's over.

It's still technically in force. For example, if someone is filing I-485 this week they should still include I-944 to avoid rejection by the Lockbox. The SCOTUS case is proceeding in the backdrop so it looks like the days are numbered for the public charge guidance implemented by the Trump administration; i.e. it would eventually revert back to the 1999 guidance.

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17 minutes ago, Jody and Misho said:

What is your take on it?  Certain attornies are claiming that it's over.

Thearticle says the Biden administration is not going defend the EXPANSION of the previous policy.  The public charge rule has been in effect for many years.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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3 minutes ago, HRQX said:

It's still technically in force. For example, if someone is filing I-485 this week they should still include I-944 to avoid rejection by the Lockbox. The SCOTUS case is proceeding in the backdrop so it looks like the days are numbered for the public charge guidance implemented by the Trump administration; i.e. it would eventually revert back to the 1999 guidance.

Thus, DOS consulate officers would still make decisions based their discretion, correct?

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

Thearticle says the Biden administration is not going defend the EXPANSION of the previous policy.  The public charge rule has been in effect for many years.

Guess I should have been more clear in my wording.  @HRQX  explained my thoughts much more clearly.

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Either way, this is big news.  The I 944 is an overwhelming document.  Also seems hard to justify the I 944 with all that is currently happening at the border.

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1 minute ago, Jody and Misho said:

Either way, this is big news.  The I 944 is an overwhelming document.  Also seems hard to justify this with all that is currently happening at the border.

It might eliminate the I-944, but I'm not sure it will do much more.  I agree that I-944 seems pretty bothersome and difficult.  

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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48 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

Thus, DOS consulate officers would still make decisions based their discretion, correct?

For DOS they are still currently enjoined from implementing their version of the rule because of the preliminary SDNY ruling. The DOJ will most likely settle the ongoing case in the lower court and/or not actively defend the rule in court.

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It has been enjoined and will not be enforced due to the court order that came out an hour ago. DHS says they will be relying on interim guidance from the 1999 guidance issued previously about Public charge until final guidance is issued soon. Which means all the stuff we had to provide for public charge, including the public charge form, are no longer required. 

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1 hour ago, OliverBa said:

It has been enjoined and will not be enforced due to the court order that came out an hour ago.

SCOTUS did not enjoin the rule today. The parties just agreed to dismiss the case pursuant to Rule 46.1: http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20-449/171281/20210309101553454_20-0449 - DHS v New York Dismissal Stipulation.pdf Todays actions will have to filter down to the circuit courts of appeals and then to the district courts (like N.D. Illinois, W.D. Washington, etc). There will likely be a gap in time before a formal decision is issued.

 

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2021/03/09/dhs-statement-litigation-related-public-charge-ground-inadmissibility

"Once the previously entered judicial invalidation of the 2019 Rule becomes final..."

"DHS and USCIS will provide additional updates regarding the administration of the public charge ground of inadmissibility, including announcing when DHS will cease applying the 2019 Rule."

I.e. not yet dead but soon.

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7 hours ago, Jody and Misho said:

Either way, this is big news.  The I 944 is an overwhelming document.  Also seems hard to justify the I 944 with all that is currently happening at the border.

I didn’t find it overwhelming or difficult... it’s really just putting in your education, financial status and employment history.. what’s so hard about that?

 

justification would be that it’s part of the legal migration process, not part of the craziness that’s currently going on at the boarder

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