‘Covid-19 made in Wuhan lab controlled by China govt’, claims virologist, offers evidence

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

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Dr Li-Meng Yan fled to the United States over safety concerns. Appearing on a show from a secret location, the virologist claimed she will soon publish her findings.

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Chinese virologist Dr Li-Meng Yan has claimed that the novel coronavirus was made in a government controlled laboratory in Wuhan and asserted that she has scientific proof to back the claim.

The virologist, who became the whistleblower against the Chinese government over its handling of the coronavirus pandemic, was in December last year tasked with looking into a cluster of Sars-like cases coming out of mainland China. The top scientist working in Hong Kong claimed that she discovered a cover-up operation during her investigation and said that the Chinese government knew about the spread of the virus before publicly acknowledging it.

Dr Li-Meng, who specialised in virology and immunology at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, was allegedly forced to flee to the United States over safety concerns.

On September 11, she participated in an interview on British talk show “Loose Women” from a secret location and talked about her research on the coronavirus disease and the challenges she has been facing.

 

 

 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/covid-19-made-in-wuhan-lab-controlled-by-china-govt-claims-virologist-offers-evidence/story-JJTyD7Ts61FLOzPvEQHHQL.html

 

We'll see how this turns out tomorrow, searching for this story, I don't see the MSM picking it up, which isn't surprising because it would destroy a number of narratives. 

 

I'll say.. this is a brave woman, especially if what she says is true. China will be targeting her for the rest of her life.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

You’re going to VJ hell, posting a fake conspiracy theory such as this.

[TBoneTX 43,048]

Saw this the other day on Townhall or Redstate or such.  If true, big news.

Young virologist probably signed her own death warrant.

[pablo2752 106]

I was talking to my Australian friend - who is fervently anti CCP for good reasons - and he told me that it's become a de facto truth in Australia that the virus came from Chinese lab. 

But no, democrats are too much of cowards to call them out. I will share an article from Australian virologist about the covid-19 lab origin theory once I find it again. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, pablo2752 said:

I was talking to my Australian friend - who is fervently anti CCP for good reasons - and he told me that it's become a de facto truth in Australia that the virus came from Chinese lab. 

But no, democrats are too much of cowards to call them out. I will share an article from Australian virologist about the covid-19 lab origin theory once I find it again. 

Please do!!

 

(What does anti-CCP have to do with it, and what is "good reasons"?)

Edited September 15, 2020 by Voice of Reason

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

So this is her submission:

https://zenodo.org/record/4028830

 

It's open access under CC so should be able to download the PDF at no cost. 

 

In skimming it, it seems she's saying not only did it come from a lab in China but it's not a natural virus, so.. lab created. It's extremely detailed and she explains how it would be done in a lab. If true, it really raises the specter of China's culpability and responsibility to the world in paying for this.

[pablo2752 106]

@Voice of Reason Here is the link to the report.

 

Go to section 10.3.3 by Nikolai Petrovsky .

 

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'Certainly, our and other analyses of the genomic sequence of the virus do not reveal any artificial gene inserts that would be the hallmark of a gene jockey, genetic engineers who manipulate or even create viruses by splicing in artificial inserts into their genome. These are generally easily recognisable and hence clear signatures of human intervention in the creation of a virus. The fact that these artificial inserts are not present has been interpreted by some to mean this virus is not the result of human manipulation. However, this logic is incorrect as there are other ways in which humans can manipulate viruses and that is caused by natural selection. What do I mean? All viruses and bacteria mutate and adapt to their environment over time, with selection of the fittest individuals for survival in that particular environment. Take a bat coronavirus that is not infectious to humans, and force its selection by culturing it with cells that express human ACE2 receptor, such cells having been created many years ago to culture SARS coronaviruses and you can force the bat virus to adapt to infect human cells via mutations in its spike protein, which would have the effect of increasing the strength of its binding to human ACE2, and inevitably reducing the strength of its binding to bat ACE2. Viruses in prolonged culture will also develop other random mutations that do not affect its function. The result of these experiments is a virus that is highly virulent in humans but is sufficiently different that it no longer resembles the original bat virus. Because the mutations are acquired randomly by selection there is no signature of a human gene jockey, but this is clearly a virus still created by human intervention. My group in collaboration with other Australian researchers have been using a modelling approach to study the possible evolutionary origins of COVID-19 by modelling interactions between its spike protein and a broad variety of ACE2 receptors from many animals and humans.'

 

[pablo2752 106]

4 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Please do!!

 

(What does anti-CCP have to do with it, and what is "good reasons"?)

If you ever have chance to go to subreddit called Chinesetourist (which I admit has some racists element since the mod himself doesn't really care about cleaning out dirts) then you can see all kinds of insanity caused by ....them. 

 

As for my friends, long story short, my Aussie friend has had lots of bad encounters with Chineses in Australia, most of which were started by the Chineses. He also frequenlty talks about how the colleges are accepting CHinese international students with no standards, and how  these chinese students are propagating pro-CCP agenda while attacking both locals and Hong Kong students that are supportive of Hong Kong freedom. Not to mention manipulation of housing market by foreign Chinese investors, which is also happening in Jeju Island and Washington State. 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

She just interviewed with Tucker and this is her key assertions:

 

1) The virus came from the Wuhan lab, isn't a naturally occurring virus (counter to China's claim that it's natural and from the wet markets)

2) China released it deliberately

 

The evidence for #1 looks strong (and has been stressed for months even without this evidence), but there definitely needs to be proof for #2 given the serious ramifications for China.

 

Edited September 16, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[pablo2752 106]

5 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

She just interviewed with Tucker and this is her key assertions:

 

1) The virus came from the Wuhan lab, isn't a naturally occurring virus (counter to China's claim that it's natural and from the wet markets)

2) China released it deliberately

 

The evidence for #1 looks strong (and has been stressed for months even without this evidence), but there definitely needs to be proof for #2 given the serious ramifications for China.

 

About point 1), it's possible that both can be correct. 

 

WIthout going far too much into details of biology, its entirely possible and has been done for a long time for many different purposes that virus/bacteria can pick up (this is called transduction) genetic materials from other virus/bacteria without directly modifying their genes. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

17 hours ago, pablo2752 said:

If you ever have chance to go to subreddit called Chinesetourist (which I admit has some racists element since the mod himself doesn't really care about cleaning out dirts) then you can see all kinds of insanity caused by ....them. 

 

As for my friends, long story short, my Aussie friend has had lots of bad encounters with Chineses in Australia, most of which were started by the Chineses. He also frequenlty talks about how the colleges are accepting CHinese international students with no standards, and how  these chinese students are propagating pro-CCP agenda while attacking both locals and Hong Kong students that are supportive of Hong Kong freedom. Not to mention manipulation of housing market by foreign Chinese investors, which is also happening in Jeju Island and Washington State. 

Thanks for the report, and thanks for clearing up the anti-CCP question.  I misunderstood the acronym, totally my fault.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

15 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

She just interviewed with Tucker and this is her key assertions:

 

1) The virus came from the Wuhan lab, isn't a naturally occurring virus (counter to China's claim that it's natural and from the wet markets)

2) China released it deliberately

 

The evidence for #1 looks strong (and has been stressed for months even without this evidence), but there definitely needs to be proof for #2 given the serious ramifications for China.

 

1) I have believed this since the whole thing started (I know, what a conspiracy theorist I am).

2) Yeah, we need proof.  Though as a famous person once said, "What difference, at this point, does it make?  It is our job to figure out what happened..."

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

10 hours ago, pablo2752 said:

About point 1), it's possible that both can be correct. 

 

WIthout going far too much into details of biology, its entirely possible and has been done for a long time for many different purposes that virus/bacteria can pick up (this is called transduction) genetic materials from other virus/bacteria without directly modifying their genes. 

Entirely possible, but how likely?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Entirely possible, but how likely?

I think Pablo is saying the same thing you are saying (that she is saying) in point 1) above.  At least that's what I got from the cliff notes version of the report he posted from the Aussie.  That it LOOKS natural, but is really more of a human-manipulated mutation of the original bat virus.

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