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What implication having a 2 marriages? Yes, it was unfortunate due to poor decision. The marriages that we found is one is legal and one is null and void. While processing my brothers petition to migrate. On the form it shows his first wife, whom he is now separated. The null and void we have no idea what to do? Do we need to declare? Do we need to fix to have it really null and void, etc.? We are lost. Please kindly advice.

 

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12 minutes ago, Jaxjax2020 said:

Hello,

 

What implication having a 2 marriages? Yes, it was unfortunate due to poor decision. The marriages that we found is one is legal and one is null and void. While processing my brothers petition to migrate. On the form it shows his first wife, whom he is now separated. The null and void we have no idea what to do? Do we need to declare? Do we need to fix to have it really null and void, etc.? We are lost. Please kindly advice.

 

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Was he married to two people at the same time or has he been married to two people at different times? Details make a whole lot of difference.

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What country is this?

you say divorce is not legal i the country and they are not legally separated in 1 of your posts/  immigration is going to want to see legal divorce papers before the 2nd marriage

knowing the country will help as the persons dealing with your embassy can  best advise on separation, and divorce issues there

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50 minutes ago, Jaxjax2020 said:

Hello,

 

What implication having a 2 marriages? Yes, it was unfortunate due to poor decision. The marriages that we found is one is legal and one is null and void. While processing my brothers petition to migrate. On the form it shows his first wife, whom he is now separated. The null and void we have no idea what to do? Do we need to declare? Do we need to fix to have it really null and void, etc.? We are lost. Please kindly advice.

 

Thanks!

“Poor decision”? This is not the same as legal (there) polygamy if I understand, but it sounds like bigamy. Bigamy is a crime of moral turpitude and therefore makes him inadmissible.  You may want to get a lawyer.

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15 minutes ago, Jaxjax2020 said:

Thanks for reply! Timeline is almost the same time. 

Please clarify.  If you want help, you need to provide good answers to questions from people trying to help you.

 

What country is your brother from?


Was he legally married to two people at the same time?  Yes or no.

 

Is polygamy allowed where he's from?  Yes or no.

 

Did he commit bigamy by being married to two people at the same time?  Yes or no.

 

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1 hour ago, Jaxjax2020 said:

Hello,

 

What implication having a 2 marriages? Yes, it was unfortunate due to poor decision. The marriages that we found is one is legal and one is null and void. While processing my brothers petition to migrate. On the form it shows his first wife, whom he is now separated. The null and void we have no idea what to do? Do we need to declare? Do we need to fix to have it really null and void, etc.? We are lost. Please kindly advice.

 

Thanks!

One of the marriages will have to have legal termination documents.....

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Either way polygamy is illegal in the United States, only the first marriage is recognized. So he will need to divorce both wives and after the divorces are final he will have to remarry the second wife. He will declare both marriages, both divorces, and the remarriage to the active wife.

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15 minutes ago, belinda63 said:

Either way polygamy is illegal in the United States, only the first marriage is recognized. So he will need to divorce both wives and after the divorces are final he will have to remarry the second wife. He will declare both marriages, both divorces, and the remarriage to the active wife.

It’s still not clear if it’s polygamy or bigamy though. They are treated differently. If it was polygamy, why would the second marriage be “null and void”? 
 In any case yes he needs to declare both marriages. Doesn’t sound like he particularly wants to be married to either of them now though.

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Polygamy would only be an issue if he intended to bring the second concurrent spouse with him, or to practice it while in the US.

Bigamy could present an issue for just him to immigrate.

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2 hours ago, geowrian said:

Polygamy would only be an issue if he intended to bring the second concurrent spouse with him

Wouldn't it call into question the legality of the marriage he's is either basing his NIV on, or the partner who is immigrating with him?  

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1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

Wouldn't it call into question the legality of the marriage he's is either basing his NIV on, or the partner who is immigrating with him?  

What NIV? I did not see any reference to one. I only see the OP mentioned about a petition for his sibling.

If he is not immigrating as a derivative spouse and not bringing his own spouse(s), then the legality of the marriage is irrelevant.

Any plans to practice polygamy in the US would be an inadmissibility. And bigamy can be as well. But the legality of the marriage itself only matters if somebody is immigrating based on that marriage.

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1 hour ago, geowrian said:

What NIV? I did not see any reference to one. I only see the OP mentioned about a petition for his sibling.

If he is not immigrating as a derivative spouse and not bringing his own spouse(s), then the legality of the marriage is irrelevant.

Any plans to practice polygamy in the US would be an inadmissibility. And bigamy can be as well. But the legality of the marriage itself only matters if somebody is immigrating based on that marriage.

Oops, I meant immigrant visa.  Didn't notice that the person in question was not intending to bring spouse.

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