Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Nature Boy 2.0

Trump’s erratic foreign policy reduced to ‘a shambles’

32 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

43 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Uhhh Colin mmmm  LOL no he didnt . Bush, WMD, iraq, 

 

 

 

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-erratic-foreign-policy-reduced-shambles

 

   Foreign policy was one thing I was feeling OK with when Trump was running. I thought he was going to be Ron Paul  light. 

 

   I can't really see what this article says though. Unfortunately MSNBC wants me to disable my ad block to read their worthless rubbish. Yeah, like that's going to happen. As far as foreign policy in general, I don't think anyone from previous administrations should be the one casting the first stone. It hasn't been our strong point as far as I can remember.

 

   


995507-quote-moderation-in-all-things-an

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Uhhh Colin mmmm  LOL no he didnt . Bush, WMD, iraq, 

 

 

 

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-erratic-foreign-policy-reduced-shambles

I am more than OK with this and want a total withdrawal of troops worldwide brought back home now. We need to stop playing the worlds policeman and let these regions forge their own destinies with their own blood sweat and tears. 

3 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Foreign policy was one thing I was feeling OK with when Trump was running. I thought he was going to be Ron Paul  light. 

 

   I can't really see what this article says though. Unfortunately MSNBC wants me to disable my ad block to read their worthless rubbish. Yeah, like that's going to happen. As far as foreign policy in general, I don't think anyone from previous administrations should be the one casting the first stone. It hasn't been our strong point as far as I can remember.

 

   

There was an option to continue on the bottom left to read the article. I didn't think Trump would follow Ron Pauls logic of foreign policy of non intervention. I saw Trump as a Democrat playing a role as a Republican but been happy with him so far except his spending but either party wouldn't be spendthrifts anyway. His destruction of both major parties makes me love him though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As someone who has been to Iraq and have had friends in that went to Syria to work I think this is a BAD IDEA. The Kurds absolutely love us. So by us leaving them to Turkey who is there worst enemy it is the worst thing we can do. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

As someone who has been to Iraq and have had friends in that went to Syria to work I think this is a BAD IDEA. The Kurds absolutely love us. So by us leaving them to Turkey who is there worst enemy it is the worst thing we can do. 

 

We have a long and rich history of absolutely doing this over and over and over. Looks like they would learn. without googling I am pretty sure Bush did it to them after the 1st gulf war, and Saddam  got pay back.  I think other instances also, but to lazy to look it up. I could be off a little bit 

 

In fact the USA has a  long rich history of screwing over indigenous people that helped us.  The Montagnard people got a royal pump and dump in Vietnam also.

 

Couple of great reads on Nam

 

A bright and shinning Lie

About face by David Hackworth... Hackworth was a real genuine war stud 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

We have a long and rich history of absolutely doing this over and over and over. Looks like they would learn. without googling I am pretty sure Bush did it to them after the 1st gulf war, and Saddam  got pay back.  I think other instances also, but to lazy to look it up. I could be off a little bit 

In fact the USA has a  long rich history of screwing over indigenous people that helped us.  The Montagnard people got a royal pump and dump in Vietnam also.

Couple of great reads on Nam

A bright and shinning Lie

About face by David Hackworth... Hackworth was a real genuine war stud 

Exactly this point as well. We did do this to the Kurds in Iraq after the first Gulf War, and now we are doing it to the Kurds in Syria. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/7/2019 at 8:40 PM, luckytxn said:

We need to stop playing the worlds policeman

And the question that none of the war-hawks can answer is:  If we don't withdraw the troops now, then when?


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/7/2019 at 9:40 PM, luckytxn said:

I am more than OK with this and want a total withdrawal of troops worldwide brought back home now. We need to stop playing the worlds policeman and let these regions forge their own destinies with their own blood sweat and tears. 

There was an option to continue on the bottom left to read the article. I didn't think Trump would follow Ron Pauls logic of foreign policy of non intervention. I saw Trump as a Democrat playing a role as a Republican but been happy with him so far except his spending but either party wouldn't be spendthrifts anyway. His destruction of both major parties makes me love him though.

It's not about playing the world's policemen, it's about not stabbing people in the back who helped you if you ever wanna be helped again.


09/14/2012: Sent I-130
10/04/2012: NOA1 Received
12/11/2012: NOA2 Received
12/18/2012: NVC Received Case
01/08/2013: Received Case Number/IIN; DS-3032/I-864 Bill
01/08/2013: DS-3032 Sent
01/18/2013: DS-3032 Accepted; Received IV Bill
01/23/2013: Paid I-864 Bill; Paid IV Bill
02/05/2013: IV Package Sent
02/18/2013: AOS Package Sent
03/22/2013: Case complete
05/06/2013: Interview Scheduled

06/05/2013: Visa issued!

06/28/2013: VISA RECEIVED

07/09/2013: POE - EWR. Went super fast and easy. 5 minutes of waiting and then just a signature and finger print.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

05/06/2016: One month late - overnighted form N-400.

06/01/2016: Original Biometrics appointment, had to reschedule due to being away.

07/01/2016: Biometrics Completed.

08/17/2016: Interview scheduled & approved.

09/16/2016: Scheduled oath ceremony.

09/16/2016: THE END - 4 year long process all done!

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
On 10/8/2019 at 7:31 AM, Cyberfx1024 said:

As someone who has been to Iraq and have had friends in that went to Syria to work I think this is a BAD IDEA. The Kurds absolutely love us. So by us leaving them to Turkey who is there worst enemy it is the worst thing we can do. 

Agreed, absolutely a terrible idea. But even worse, for all the wrong reasons - folding for Erdogan isn't going to make america great, ever.

Edited by OriZ

09/14/2012: Sent I-130
10/04/2012: NOA1 Received
12/11/2012: NOA2 Received
12/18/2012: NVC Received Case
01/08/2013: Received Case Number/IIN; DS-3032/I-864 Bill
01/08/2013: DS-3032 Sent
01/18/2013: DS-3032 Accepted; Received IV Bill
01/23/2013: Paid I-864 Bill; Paid IV Bill
02/05/2013: IV Package Sent
02/18/2013: AOS Package Sent
03/22/2013: Case complete
05/06/2013: Interview Scheduled

06/05/2013: Visa issued!

06/28/2013: VISA RECEIVED

07/09/2013: POE - EWR. Went super fast and easy. 5 minutes of waiting and then just a signature and finger print.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

05/06/2016: One month late - overnighted form N-400.

06/01/2016: Original Biometrics appointment, had to reschedule due to being away.

07/01/2016: Biometrics Completed.

08/17/2016: Interview scheduled & approved.

09/16/2016: Scheduled oath ceremony.

09/16/2016: THE END - 4 year long process all done!

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, luckytxn said:

They want never ending war.

Nope, you are wrong. The Kurds in both Iraq and Syria helped us out exponentially. While at the same time we turned our back on them twice now when they needed us most. Why in the hell would anyone side with us is beyond me. 

7 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

And the question that none of the war-hawks can answer is:  If we don't withdraw the troops now, then when?

Easy, we leave a permanent base in Rojava like what they have in Germany, Italy, Spain, Japan. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am curious about this, we had something like 50-100 military personnel in that zone from what I read.  Were they really holding back the Turks?  I also wonder how Assad plans to respond?


Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, OriZ said:

It's not about playing the world's policemen, it's about not stabbing people in the back who helped you if you ever wanna be helped again.

And it's also about intentionally standing down and giving the OK to a dictator and his buddies while they literally murder thousands of brave men, women, and children... all because of their love of freedom, their ethnicity, and their Christian faith.

5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I am curious about this, we had something like 50-100 military personnel in that zone from what I read.  Were they really holding back the Turks?  I also wonder how Assad plans to respond?

The rest of the US military have been ordered to stand down. They have been ordered to do nothing to defend their allies, while Erdogan slaughters them. The 50 were for show (see we're leaving, you can watch it on tv! yay!). It's the rest remaining that have been ordered to do something with far reaching consequences...

Edited by yuna628

K-1 - AOS & ROC Timeline  - Immigration and the Health Exchange Price of Love in the UK Thinking of Returning to UK?

 

First met: 12/31/04 - Engaged: 9/24/09
Filed I-129F: 10/4/14 - Packet received: 10/7/14
NOA 1 email + ARN assigned: 10/10/14 (hard copy 10/17/14)
Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
Packet 3: 5/28/15 - Medical: 6/16/15
Poked London 7/1/15 - Packet 4: 7/2/15
Interview: 7/30/15 - Approved!
AP + Issued 8/3/15 - Visa in hand (depot): 8/6/15
POE: 8/27/15

Wedding: 9/30/15

Filed I-485, I-131, I-765: 11/7/15

Packet received: 11/9/15

NOA 1 txt/email: 11/15/15 - NOA 1 hardcopy: 11/19/15

Bio: 12/9/15

EAD + AP approved: 1/25/16 - EAD received: 2/1/16

RFE for USCIS inability to read vax instructions: 5/21/16 (no e-notification & not sent from local office!)

RFE response sent: 6/7/16 - RFE response received 6/9/16

AOS approved/card in production: 6/13/16  

NOA 2 hardcopy + card sent 6/17/16

Green Card received: 6/18/16

USCIS 120 day reminder notice: 2/22/18

Filed I-751: 5/2/18 - Packet received: 5/4/18

NOA 1:  5/29/18 (12 mo) 8/13/18 (18 mo)  - Bio: 6/27/18

Transferred: Potomac Service Center 3/26/19

Approved/New Card Produced status: 4/25/19 - NOA2 hardcopy 4/29/19

10yr Green Card Received: 5/2/19 - Error will need to file I90 >_<

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I am curious about this, we had something like 50-100 military personnel in that zone from what I read.  Were they really holding back the Turks?  I also wonder how Assad plans to respond?

We had more than that probably up to a 1000. It is more symbolic than anything else because it opens up attacks from the Turks on the PKK who are their sworn enemies. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

And it's also about intentionally standing down and giving the OK to a dictator and his buddies while they literally murder thousands of brave men, women, and children... all because of their love of freedom, their ethnicity, and their Christian faith.

The rest of the US military have been ordered to stand down. They have been ordered to do nothing to defend their allies, while Erdogan slaughters them. The 50 were for show (see we're leaving, you can watch it on tv! yay!). It's the rest remaining that have been ordered to do something with far reaching consequences...

So we have a larger presence in "Kurdistan"  how many, and how are the Turks not slaughtering them as well?

 

1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

We had more than that probably up to a 1000. It is more symbolic than anything else because it opens up attacks from the Turks on the PKK who are their sworn enemies. 

So a tribal war?  Those are the best. 


Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
- Back to Top -


Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...