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I am looking to petition my fiancee and I am a US Citizen NOT born in the USA NOR naturalized as an adult. I became a citizen UNDER the age of 18 and was given a US passport at the same time my parent was Naturalized. This is the only proof I have as a citizen.  I do have an alien reg # but I do not believe I was issued a Naturalization Certificate.  

My questions are:

- having ONLY a US passport, will this suffice as proof of my citizenship for the  I-129F?

- if I were given a Naturalization Certificate where could I get a copy should USCIS require it?  (As far as I know I never got one under my name) 

- should I list my alien number on the i-129 (as it asks for an "A #" on the 1st page in Part 1 in Question No. 1) even though I don't have physical proof of a nat. cert.? 

 

Thanks everyone! 

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Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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1 hour ago, RENadja20/20 said:

- having ONLY a US passport, will this suffice as proof of my citizenship for the  I-129F?

- if I were given a Naturalization Certificate where could I get a copy should USCIS require it?  (As far as I know I never got one under my name) 

- should I list my alien number on the i-129 (as it asks for an "A #" on the 1st page in Part 1 in Question No. 1) even though I don't have physical proof of a nat. cert.? 

  1. Yes
  2. Not needed. See #1.
  3. You can list it, although I believe many people leave it blank as a US Citizen (I don't see where it says to do that in the instructions so I personally would provide it).

Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent

12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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4 hours ago, RENadja20/20 said:

I am looking to petition my fiancee and I am a US Citizen NOT born in the USA NOR naturalized as an adult. I became a citizen UNDER the age of 18 and was given a US passport at the same time my parent was Naturalized. This is the only proof I have as a citizen.  I do have an alien reg # but I do not believe I was issued a Naturalization Certificate.  

My questions are:

- having ONLY a US passport, will this suffice as proof of my citizenship for the  I-129F?  YES

 

- if I were given a Naturalization Certificate where could I get a copy should USCIS require it?  (As far as I know I never got one under my name)  You were not given a certificate being you obtained citizenship through a parent.  If you want a certificate I believe the cost is $600 (but you don't need it .. passport is good)

 

- should I list my alien number on the i-129 (as it asks for an "A #" on the 1st page in Part 1 in Question No. 1) even though I don't have physical proof of a nat. cert.?   You don't have an A# .. you are a USC ;)  

 

Thanks everyone! 

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2 hours ago, geowrian said:
  1. Yes
  2. Not needed. See #1.
  3. You can list it, although I believe many people leave it blank as a US Citizen (I don't see where it says to do that in the instructions so I personally would provide it).

 USC don't have an A#  ;)  


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1 hour ago, Hank_ said:

If you want a certificate I believe the cost is $600

If you're referring to the N600, cost is $1,170 now.


Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Going through said:

If you're referring to the N600, cost is $1,170 now.

Really!!!!  O-U-C-H!!!     Good thing it isn't necessary to have the certificate.      

 

That is nasty!


Hank

"Chance Favors The Prepared Mind"

 

 

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6 hours ago, Hank_ said:

 USC don't have an A#  ;)  

The I-129F is only used by USCs, so it seems odd to ask for it if it's impossible to have it. ;)

An A# never goes away...it just becomes moot. If they had one before being a USC, it still belongs to them.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent

12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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1 hour ago, geowrian said:

The I-129F is only used by USCs, so it seems odd to ask for it if it's impossible to have it. ;)

An A# never goes away...it just becomes moot. If they had one before being a USC, it still belongs to them.

 “A” number is short for Alien Registration Number.       It is a unique seven-, eight- or nine-digit number assigned to a non-citizen.

 

It isn't moot .. a USC does not have an A number.

 

The guy designing the form most likely was copying another form, and had no clue about what is what.      This is the gubermint ...asking for an "A" of a USC is dumber than dumb so it fits the scheme of things .  ;)


Hank

"Chance Favors The Prepared Mind"

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

 “A” number is short for Alien Registration Number.       It is a unique seven-, eight- or nine-digit number assigned to a non-citizen.

 

It isn't moot .. a USC does not have an A number.

 

The guy designing the form most likely was copying another form, and had no clue about what is what.      This is the gubermint ...asking for an "A" of a USC is dumber than dumb so it fits the scheme of things .  ;)

A naturalized citizen at one point was issued an A number.   That is why some  USCs could have had an A number at some point in there life 


YMMV

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2 hours ago, Hank_ said:

It isn't moot .. a USC does not have an A number.

He did at one point, and confirmed so in his original post:

 

14 hours ago, RENadja20/20 said:

I do have an alien reg # but I do not believe I was issued a Naturalization Certificate.  

 

I liken it to having a SS number.  A SS# may not be used (ie. the person moved back outside the country), but the number will always be attached to them.


Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, little immigrant said:

My naturalization certificate still shows my A# therefore I have one

Same here.

 

I think most naturalized citizens at some point would have had a A#.


Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

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You can liken it to an SS #  .. but it is far from even close.

 

“A” number is short for Alien Registration Number.       It is a unique seven-, eight- or nine-digit number assigned to a non-citizen.

 

A naturalization certificate would have it to show the "paper trail" to citizenship.   But a USC does not have an A#   ...... I looked, I don't have one.  ;)  


Hank

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