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7 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Okay, I will concede that if he found out he would be bitter. And furious, really. I guess I was just past caring by that point, and thinking of self-preservation. Can you imagine bringing a child into a wreck of a marriage? It was for the best, for all of us. I'm sure if I had managed to conceive, he would have found a way to take my child from me. He's got a lot of money to throw around at lawyers. It would have broken my heart twice over.

Or maybe a child would have brought you back together. I don't know.


 

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3 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Or maybe a child would have brought you back together. I don't know.

Well, I suspect that at the time, he would have thought it was my fiance's even though I was 100% NOT having an affair. And under California law, I learned from my divorce attorney, the husband is automatically deemed the father of all the children born during the marriage. I can't even imagine the crazy that would have ensued. Even if he hadn't suspected the affair, a child wouldn't have made anything better between us. 

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Hopefully couples in normal and loving relationships, built on trust and mutual respect, have no need to hide what medical decisions are made about their bodies. I certainly know of many women that were raised fundamentalist and then essentially shuttled off into fundamentalist relationships that have no access to birth control and have no decisions that they can make about their bodies themselves. They are QFW's, and pump out babies until they die.. and many do (a noted one just recently and tragically). Some women are trapped in abusive and controlling relationships, having neither access to birth control or will be abused if they should as much speak about it.

 

A couple should not keep contraception decisions secret from one another, and should respect each other in that regard. One should only have children when both are ready. If neither party can be respectful, you have likely chosen the wrong partner.


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On 8/20/2019 at 2:57 PM, laylalex said:

This was utterly shocking to me. While I strongly support a woman's right to choose whether or not to take a pregnancy to term, I also understand that other have moral disagreements with my beliefs and they are entitled to those beliefs so long as they do not restrict my right to terminate -- or not -- as I have in this country. But where I have a real problem is with people -- politicians, who wield power -- who say things like this. It is SO insulting to women and denies them dignity and agency. I would like to think most anti-choice people do not agree with Rep. King. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/14/steve-king-iowa-republican-rape-incest-abortion

 

 

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4 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I guarantee you, if you are ever in the doctors office waiting to have a vasectomy performed, they are only going to ask for your consent, not your wife's. Not that I think there is anything wrong with it being a joint decision, but neither do I think it should be expected. 

Although no legal requirement some doctors may require a spouse’s consent in sort of a CYA.  There was a woman I dated many years ago that ultimately got divorced because her husband got a vasectomy as she wanted more children.  Sure there were probably other issues in the marriage, apparently in her mind, him getting the vasectomy was the tipping point.

 

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6 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

we all learn things [...] as time goes on.  [...] they say youth is wasted on the young.

I've learned this, see man:

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2 hours ago, OriZ said:

"I know that I can’t say that I was not a part of a product of that.”

 

I know I can say for sure that he was.

Even if he was, do you think that justifies his position that there should be NO exceptions for rape and incest? I'm not implying you support that, just interested to know if you think his logic is sound. :) 

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Although no legal requirement some doctors may require a spouse’s consent in sort of a CYA.  There was a woman I dated many years ago that ultimately got divorced because her husband got a vasectomy as she wanted more children.  Sure there were probably other issues in the marriage, apparently in her mind, him getting the vasectomy was the tipping point.

 

https://goodmenproject.com/newsroom/are-men-legally-required-to-ask-their-spouses-permission-for-a-vasectomy/

 

   I guess if they were worried about lawsuits they might do that. Since there is no legal requirements for spousal consent, it's hard to see anyone winning such a case. Maybe some doctors require it as protocol, just to avoid the potential costs of defending against a lawsuit. I would just find another urologist. 

 

  


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1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

I've learned this, see man:

Naps are wasted on babies when WE need them, zzz man!

 

  Yeah, with our oldest child, I would try to take advantage of her nap time to get as much done as I could around the house. With the youngest, I was usually waiting for him to take a nap so I could take one too.


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6 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I guarantee you, if you are ever in the doctors office waiting to have a vasectomy performed, they are only going to ask for your consent, not your wife's. Not that I think there is anything wrong with it being a joint decision, but neither do I think it should be expected. 

Your guarantee is not worth the webpage it was written on.

 

I sat in the doctor's office (circa 1999), and so did my (now ex) wife, because the doctors refused to perform a vasectomy without her consent.  In writing.  Had she said no to the operation, it wasn't going to happen.

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Just now, ALFKAD said:

Your guarantee is not worth the webpage it was written on.

 

I sat in the doctor's office (circa 1999), and so did my (now ex) wife, because the doctors refused to perform a vasectomy without her consent.  In writing.  Had she said no to the operation, it wasn't going to happen.

 

   You think something that happened in a medical office in 1999 has any relevance at all in 2019? 


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Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

   You think something that happened in a medical office in 1999 has any relevance at all in 2019? 

Just pointing out that your guarantee  isn't very.... guaranteed.  You painted with quite a broad brush there, my friend.  I'm sure the same rules apply in certain medical facilities today.

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10 hours ago, laylalex said:

Even if he was, do you think that justifies his position that there should be NO exceptions for rape and incest? I'm not implying you support that, just interested to know if you think his logic is sound. :) 

I clearly don't think his logic is anywhere near sound if I'm making fun of him


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8 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

Just pointing out that your guarantee  isn't very.... guaranteed.  You painted with quite a broad brush there, my friend.  I'm sure the same rules apply in certain medical facilities today.

 

  Well I conceded in my reply to Bill that I understand they may require your wife to sign a waiver. Legally they can't require consent. They are covering their butts from a possible lawsuit, but it is an elective procedure, so they are not required to perform it if you don't comply with their demands. 

 

   I will revise my guarantee if you like. You don't need your wife's consent to have a vasectomy. If a doctor requires that your wife sign a consent form and you don't want to do that, find another doctor. It won't be that hard.

   


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