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Hi all! My LTR husband from the UK and I a natural citizen of the US recent received an inquiry from his little brother (18) about what it would take for him to get his degree here in the US. 

 

I was just curious what process would be most appropriate for him if he was to choose to do so?

 

Is there any way for us to sponsor him or would he have to get a student visa?

From the time we submitted our forms till AOS approval (112 days).

 

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January 9, 2012 : Arrived in the United States on VWP from Scotland to visit for a few months.
March 23, 2012 : Married in Pekin, IL
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April 4, 2013 (day 19) : Change of Address reciept
April 10, 2013 (day 25) : Biometrics appointment notice, appointment sent for April 23rd
April 15, 2013 (day 30) : RFE for I-485
April 23, 2013 (day 38) : Biometrics appointment in Naperville, IL. Super easy, no wait.
April 28 2013 (day 43) : Receipt of Evidence
May 5, 2013 (day 47) : Interview appointment to be scheduled

May 11, 2013 (day 53) : Interview set for July 9, 2013

May 27, 2013 (day 69): EAD has been ordered/sent out

June 6, 2013 (day 79): recieved EAD, applied for SSN

June 14, 2013 (day 87): Recieved SSN

July 1, 2013 (day 104): HIRED!!! (two jobs I might add!!))

July 9, 2013 (Day 112): AOS Interview @Chicago Office, APPROVED ON THE SPOT!!!

July 10, 2013 (Day 113): Illinois Drivers License!!!

July 12,2013 (Day 115): GC Production ordered

July 17, 2013 (Day 120): Green Card Recieved!!!

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October 27, 2015 (Day 1 ROC): Sent ROC packet with fee waiver and late explaination

November 11, 2015 (Day 15 ROC): Packet Denied based on lack of evidence for fee waiver

December 22nd, 2016 (Day 1 restart ROC): Packet resubmitted with better evidence

January 23rd, 2017 (Day 32 since restart ROC): Packet accepted and fee waiver approved

 

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Confused about your last sentence as sponsoring in this sort of case would mean funding his education.

 

Obviously not cheap but he certainly could apply for a Student Visa using your sponsorship/financials assuming he has no other source.

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Hi,

 

There is only one process for him to come here for university - an F1 student visa.  He's gonna need to have at least $20,000 per year and be able to show he can cover the entire course of getting his degree.  

 

Read and follow this Guide: https://www.visajourney.com/content/student-visa-guide/

 

The main points:

1.  Get accepted to a US university that can issue an I-20.

2.  Apply for student visa by proving that he has a serious education plan, has intent to return home when he finishes, and have the funds to pay international student tuition (ain't cheap) and living expenses.

 

You can not sponsor him for anything.  You can help him financially and with a place to live, but you are not part of the visa process.  

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Also keep in mind that with student visas, there are strict rules he must follow if he also wishes to work part-time for his own spending money.  As a student, he can only work on-campus, under certain restrictions...if he works off-campus it must be done with approval first---and only under certain circumstances/relevant to his field of study (In other words, he can't just get a job in a cafe or retail store to make some extra cash).  In addition, he can't work off-campus at all during the first year or he will be violating one of the conditions of his visa.

 

If he's not planning on working at all while studying---it's going to get very expensive to live, very quickly.

 

Costs to consider are tuition each year, a place to live, food, clothing allowance, school books and supplies each year, any entertainment, public transportation, etc.  

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He also has to demonstrate his intent to return home. You mention sponsoring...is the end goal to have him living here? You can’t use a student visa with the intention to immigrate. If he wants to live here permanently then your husband would have to naturalize and then file a sibling petition. Or the brother hopes that his degree is good enough for a work visa later down the line. 

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2 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

Hi,

 

There is only one process for him to come here for university - an F1 student visa.  He's gonna need to have at least $20,000 per year and be able to show he can cover the entire course of getting his degree.  

 

Read and follow this Guide: https://www.visajourney.com/content/student-visa-guide/

 

The main points:

1.  Get accepted to a US university that can issue an I-20.

2.  Apply for student visa by proving that he has a serious education plan, has intent to return home when he finishes, and have the funds to pay international student tuition (ain't cheap) and living expenses.

 

You can not sponsor him for anything.  You can help him financially and with a place to live, but you are not part of the visa process.  

Note:  Freshman year students are usually required to live on campus so he will pay room and board not live with you

 

larger colleges and universities have their own legal team to help with visa qualifications and the application/ lots of paperwork

international students no matter how long they live in a state are usually not eligible for in state tuition as their parents /guardians are not state residents or pay taxes in US 

 

and to agree with above it is very expensive for a foreign student

 

Check out this site for scholarships for eligible foreign students

 

https://www.studyusa.com/en/a/536/scholarships-for-international-students-planning-to-study-in-the-usa

 

if still high school  eligible check out exchange programs

 

https://www.ef.edu/pg/student-exchange/

 

he would have to start and prepare now for 2020 

 

 

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Generally more cost-effective to study in the UK, especially with a 3-year bachelors rather than 4 and a more generous student loan program too? (Someone mentioned $20k a year above but it’s a rare college that charges that to out of state students, and obviously privates are more like $50-70k a year.)

What is his principal reason for wanting to study in the US?  

Has he finished high school yet? - presumably he would be looking at fall next year to start, so he certainly has enough time to research options over the next few months before applications close.

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The brother would have to apply and be admitted to a US university, and then apply for an F-1 student visa on his own merits, his own financial resources or those of his family in the UK.  Applying for an F-1 with financial support from family in the US would be a potential problem as it would show strong ties to the US, and to get an F-1 he will need to show strong ties to the UK, and demonstrate intent to return to the UK after he completes his education in the US.  He needs to check out the high costs of doing this--international students pay very high tuition and fees, even at state universities.  If his intent is to live and work in the US, I would suggest that he study at a good UK university in a field in high demand in the US such as computer science or medicine, then apply for jobs in the US with an employer who would sponsor him for a work visa.  Good luck!

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