Acceptance rate

[SalishSea 16,746]

6 minutes ago, Ash. said:

The article says that the I-129F petition approval went from 90% in 2016 to 66% in 2017. Which... honestly I find it VERY hard to believe.

But the article also says things like:

"Under Obama, the immigrant didn’t even face an overseas interview to see if the relationship was real. "

"the latest data available that in FY 2016 the denial rate was about 20 percent, a huge increase from the 2015 rate of less than 1 percent. "

So you know....

Okay.  Well, I didn't read it.

 

But "cutting" K-1s implies policy change (an annual quota, like for other visas).  Changes in acceptance rates related to higher scrutiny (resulting in longer APs, thereby changing the statistics) is entirely different.

[Ash.1101 1,755]

Just now, Jorgedig said:

Okay.  Well, I didn't read it.

 

But "cutting" K-1s implies policy change (an annual quota, like for other visas).  Changes in acceptance rates related to higher scrutiny (resulting in longer APs, thereby changing the statistics) is entirely different.

Oh yeah I agree. I clicked on it just to see what the article even said, pretty sure it's been posted here on VJ last year. But it's mainly talking about the petitions being denied, not the K-1 visa's being denied.

But yeah, to my understanding there hasn't been any policy changes. There's a bunch of news media spooky let's scare everyone mumbo jumbo, but they're basically throwing ####### to see what sticks.

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

14 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Did you even read the article in it entirety?  So many flaws that it's hard to accept any fact or argument being brought forth

i read it 

that is why i say it is your choice to believe it or not

 

i have (since 1st k1 in 2009)  been searching all stats from immigration

there is a page for approvals from each embassy by post and class

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics.html

i can find a site that tells how many applications are recd each year 

i can find one that says how many visas are issued for each class

but the 2 sites do not coordinate with facts with how many might be in the approved list from being held over the year before 

so,  how the media comes up with these numbers is beyond me

they would have to read each monthly embassy report and make graphs and do the stats 

what reporter is going to take the time to do it

 

i said above the # of denials is up because the # of applications is up

[payxibka 10,044]

8 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

i read it 

that is why i say it is your choice to believe it or not

 

i have (since 1st k1 in 2009)  been searching all stats from immigration

there is a page for approvals from each embassy by post and class

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics.html

i can find a site that tells how many applications are recd each year 

i can find one that says how many visas are issued for each class

but the 2 sites do not coordinate with facts with how many might be in the approved list from being held over the year before 

so,  how the media comes up with these numbers is beyond me

they would have to read each monthly embassy report and make graphs and do the stats 

what reporter is going to take the time to do it

 

i said above the # of denials is up because the # of applications is up

I think my 4th grader could write a better article 

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

14 minutes ago, payxibka said:

I think my 4th grader could write a better article 

i guess my point is 

some believe all these  news articles

and as much as i don't like some of the things happening in immigration,   Trump says what he wants

he wants a wall

things like that

i haven't heard him target K1 to stop it

[Zach2015 211]

@ramshanaeem08, I do not think any once can advise you which way to go k1 or spousal. I chose the K1, but that process from what I understand is more expensive. Just to give you an idea since I did the K1, I am probably spending about $7,000 between all the application fee, medical fee, interview fee, flights and the AOS after we get married. That is not including anything that comes after the AOS.

[ramshanaeem08 0]

@Zach2015 Are you currently in the process of K1 or already completed?

[Zach2015 211]

@ramshanaeem08, still in the process. My case is now at the Embassy in the Philippines. So now we are beginning the process that they require over there.

[Zach2015 211]

It is a long journey either route. I can tell you it absolutely takes patience. Good luck in whatever you decide is best for both of you!

[kris&me 572]

OP 

I might have missed if you said what country you will be dealing with

and that makes a big difference

for one ,  in a high fraud country  marriage on the 1st trip is a red flag

so, several trips are needed

and sometimes a marriage can overcome a red flag that would get a denial for a K1

and the Cost of CR1 (just immigration fees)  is better in the long run

[Mezyan 149]

1 hour ago, Ash. said:

The article says that the I-129F petition approval went from 90% in 2016 to 66% in 2017. Which... honestly I find it VERY hard to believe unless when they say "approval" they mean "approval with no RFE".

But the article also says things like:

"Under Obama, the immigrant didn’t even face an overseas interview to see if the relationship was real. "

"the latest data available that in FY 2016 the denial rate was about 20 percent, a huge increase from the 2015 rate of less than 1 percent. "

So you know....

WHAT?! you mean if i would have applied for this darn thing when Obama was in office it would have skipped the interview stage? 

[Mezyan 149]

Also, that article is an opinion piece. 😂

 

OP, If you are certain you want to marry now, the CR1 is an easier route IMO. At least one that has a better chance if you are located in a high fraud country.

 

I'm in process of a K1, but I do wish it was a CR1 right now.

[Rose2019 45]

4 hours ago, geowrian said:

Yes. But only because:

1) A refused spousal visa due to not being in a bona fide marriage can be reaffirmed by USCIS where as a refused K-1 for the same type of reason dies.

2) Can't be "too married" for a spousal visa.

3) Fewer hurdles (no IMBRA).

Edit: I do disagree with the term "safer", though. One has fewer restrictions and more opportunities, but the burden to show a bona fide relationship/marriage is equal.

 

In most cases, a spousal visa is the better choice. But there are situations where a K-1 is better, or even the only actually viable option.

In your opinion, what do you think being “too married” would be ? 

[Just Paul 4,591]

2 hours ago, Mezyan said:

OP, If you are certain you want to marry now, the CR1 is an easier route IMO. At least one that has a better chance if you are located in a high fraud country.

And at lest if you are denied for a spousal visa you can often get it re affirmed by USCIS rather than starting over.

[JFH 12,189]

Petition denials are up because USCIS now has the ability to outright deny a petition purely for a missing document or an incomplete petition. Previously RFEs were issued and people were given “second chances”. I saw on this site a case where an I-129F was denied (after spending 8 months at the California service center) for missing letters of intent to marry.