K1 for Bahraini female citizen ? Sharia law?

[RLA 323]

3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

OP mentioned Shia and I am pretty sure they are not a minority.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say.  Even Shia Muslims don't all believe exactly the same.  

[usmsbow 795]

4 hours ago, Boiler said:

I do not understand the practice bit, someone who actively participates? And how do you tell?

 

The issue I see is that you need to free to marry and as a Muslim Female can not marry a non Muslim male then how are you free to marry?

 

Now if they are not a Muslim then the issue would not arise.

 

 

She isn't a firm believer in Islam, but acts like a pious Muslim around her family. How does one actively participate? Perhaps she fasts during Ramadan. Perhaps she prays 5 times a day (or prays with family members when the situation arises). She probably doesn't drink alcohol  nor eat non-halal food (at least not around family). 

 

And it is easy to explain to the CO: "I am a Muslim by birth, and follow some of its practices, but I don't subscribe to all its tenets." 

[SalishSea 16,770]

4 hours ago, Limey said:

I'm not sure I did.

 

Beneficiary has to state they are free to marry, and intend to marry. Beneficiary can truthfully state this, assuming she is not currently married, of sufficient age, and not closely related to the petitioner. This is the same whether she's an atheist from the UK or a Muslim from Bahrain. Her religion or home country is completely irrelevant.

In THEORY.  However, we have seen rejections and extended AP in PRACTICE with similar relationship issues and consulates.

[RLA 323]

5 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

In THEORY.  However, we have seen rejections and extended AP in PRACTICE with similar relationship issues and consulates.

Yes, OP and his fiancee should be aware that the question might come up in the interview, how she reconciles her faith with planning to marry a non-Muslim.  @usmsbow has given a good example how to address it: 

39 minutes ago, usmsbow said:

"I am a Muslim by birth, and follow some of its practices, but I don't subscribe to all its tenets." 

 

[JFH 12,189]

6 hours ago, Limey said:

That's a possibility, however I'd have thought that the local customs being taken into account works both ways...

As a UK citizen the embassy in London might consider it strange, or a red flag that my family hadn't been made aware of my relationship. They may probe this area to find out more. In Bahrain or similar countries, I'd imagine it would be relatively easy to explain to the interviewer why the beneficiary's family had not been informed about the application/relationship? Obviously that won't negate the requirement for other convincing proof of relationship.

I’d say quite the contrary. When I had my interview in London I’d been married for 2 years and almost 3 months. Neither of my parents had met my husband by that stage. They didn’t even know we got married until after the event. No issue whatsoever. The CO didn’t find it in any way unusual. 

[Limey 550]

50 minutes ago, JFH said:

I’d say quite the contrary. When I had my interview in London I’d been married for 2 years and almost 3 months. Neither of my parents had met my husband by that stage. They didn’t even know we got married until after the event. No issue whatsoever. The CO didn’t find it in any way unusual. 

I think London is a pretty easy Embassy - they certainly asked me whether I'd met her parents and whether she'd met mine (yes in both cases) but I doubt it would have caused a problem if it wasn't the case, as we had numerous trips to see each other etc, its also a little different as in your case when you've been married for 2 years+ (in cases of fraud, you'd imagine things move much faster).

Edited May 28, 2019 by Limey

[AstroCanada 206]

One random question, does Bahrain require any sort of exit visas for its citizens?  I know in Saudi Arabia, for example, that the consent of relatives is required to leave the country for unmarried women.  Some quick googling doesn't reveal anything like that, but something also to double-check.

[MateR 68]

Did not read any comments and do not mean to sound like a douche, but you need to tread very very carefully. If she does not get them directly herself or is not home to receive any mail that comes to her home from this kind of stuff and her family catches that - In some countries killing the daughter for such behavior is the only way to re-bestow respect upon the family. ....... Instances of this has happened in the USA to USA born kids from immigrant Muslim families beheading daughters. I don't say this to sound like (removed) or etc but this has happened... so please for the Love of God and all that is Immigration, make sure she is there to intercept any and all mail related to this addressed to her.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Ontarkie
bypassing language filter

[SalishSea 16,770]

2 hours ago, MateR said:

Did not read any comments and do not mean to sound like a douche, but you need to tread very very carefully. If she does not get them directly herself or is not home to receive any mail that comes to her home from this kind of stuff and her family catches that - In some countries killing the daughter for such behavior is the only way to re-bestow respect upon the family. ....... Instances of this has happened in the USA to USA born kids from immigrant Muslim families beheading daughters. I don't say this to sound like (removed)or etc but this has happened... so please for the Love of God and all that is Immigration, make sure she is there to intercept any and all mail related to this addressed to her.

Very salient points.  A quick read of Wikipedia makes it seem like Bahrain is fairly progressive for a Muslim country (i.e women can vote and run for office, etc), but it is difficult to know from that citation if familial violence against girls and women is common.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Ontarkie
edited quoted part for language

[payxibka 10,044]

1 hour ago, MateR said:

Did not read any comments and do not mean to sound like a douche, but you need to tread very very carefully. If she does not get them directly herself or is not home to receive any mail that comes to her home from this kind of stuff and her family catches that - In some countries killing the daughter for such behavior is the only way to re-bestow respect upon the family. ....... Instances of this has happened in the USA to USA born kids from immigrant Muslim families beheading daughters. I don't say this to sound like a **** or etc but this has happened... so please for the Love of God and all that is Immigration, make sure she is there to intercept any and all mail related to this addressed to her.

Chances of anything being sent by post is slight

[MateR 68]

8 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Chances of anything being sent by post is slight

What do you mean? When i did K1 with my fiancee, she received things by post/courier and ofc when she was at work they called her phone when she didnt answer the door........ esp after the NVC stage.

[payxibka 10,044]

1 minute ago, MateR said:

What do you mean? When i did K1 with my fiancee, she received things by post/courier and ofc when she was at work they called her phone when she didnt answer the door........ esp after the NVC stage.

There are exceptions to everything but most go through the entire process without receiving anything by POST.  The passport is the only thing that most people experience from a courier and that is easily overcome 

[MateR 68]

5 minutes ago, payxibka said:

There are exceptions to everything but most go through the entire process without receiving anything by POST.  The passport is the only thing that most people experience from a courier and that is easily overcome 

Slight is still enough. Notification letters have gone through post before which is why I say it. Better safe then sorry. And this in a European country (My fiancee received notifs through the post). Bahrain is small. People will know each other and will talk. Gossip culture - there is a reason why there is a saying "Loose lips sink ships."