Tourist Visa for Mom

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

Why do you think they ask for dates of intended stay question on the ds160

[Alice L 18]

1 minute ago, WeGuyGal said:

No one misrepresented; your words:

"..What if we say 3 weeks intended stay in ds 160 and stay in US for about 3 or 4 months ? Would that be wrong?.."

I used "3 weeks" just for example I didn't say i am using 3 weeks and intending to stay 3 months. 

[Boiler 43,426]

An interesting thread and both may be a source of information for future questions.

[Alice L 18]

1 minute ago, WeGuyGal said:

Why do you think they ask for dates of intended stay question on the ds160

Then why they grant point of entry longer than the mentioned intended period on DS 160 ?

I am trying to understand the difference between these two.

[Alice L 18]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

An interesting thread and both may be a source of information for future questions.

Thanks 

[Unlockable 7,306]

@Alice L

 

Congrats on the pregnancy!

 

To give you more perspective of the visitor visa process, the interviewing officer will want to know about why your mother needs to return to her home country more than why she wants to visit the US. When a foreigner has immediate relatives in the US, it is easy for foreigners to list out reasons why they want to visit. The biggest challenge a lot of foreigners have is to convince the officer that the eventually those visits will turn permanent.

 

There is history behind this. It is because many foreigners who  "are not wealthy" as you mentioned earlier have came to the US in the past only to never return home. This is because they had family in the US to help them stay. So don't take it personally as if everyone is saying your mother is going to do it. It is that is how the system works. By law, every applicant is presumed to have immigrant intentions. So because of that, the officer will assume your mother will migrate as soon as the case hits his/her desk. It is the law the officer is simply following. The onus is on your mother to prove that she will not immigrate.

 

Also to add, people who have the ability to stay in the US for long periods of time (months) are sometimes labeled as a risk. If you look at our society, most Americans take a vacation for a maximum of 2 weeks. Even those that are not wealthy do not stay out of the country for months at a time. Staying in a place to long may seem like a person is getting used to being there. So you can see how it reflects in the mind of an officer reviewing the case.

 

As of now, the only thing you mother can do is apply. Hopefully she will be able to get it. But I always caution people to not have to much expectation just in case it turns out to be a denial.

 

Best of luck.

[Alice L 18]

3 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

@Alice L

 

Congrats on the pregnancy!

 

To give you more perspective of the visitor visa process, the interviewing officer will want to know about why your mother needs to return to her home country more than why she wants to visit the US. When a foreigner has immediate relatives in the US, it is easy for foreigners to list out reasons why they want to visit. The biggest challenge a lot of foreigners have is to convince the officer that the eventually those visits will turn permanent.

 

There is history behind this. It is because many foreigners who  "are not wealthy" as you mentioned earlier have came to the US in the past only to never return home. This is because they had family in the US to help them stay. So don't take it personally as if everyone is saying your mother is going to do it. It is that is how the system works. By law, every applicant is presumed to have immigrant intentions. So because of that, the officer will assume your mother will migrate as soon as the case hits his/her desk. It is the law the officer is simply following. The onus is on your mother to prove that she will not immigrate.

 

Also to add, people who have the ability to stay in the US for long periods of time (months) are sometimes labeled as a risk. If you look at our society, most Americans take a vacation for a maximum of 2 weeks. Even those that are not wealthy do not stay out of the country for months at a time. Staying in a place to long may seem like a person is getting used to being there. So you can see how it reflects in the mind of an officer reviewing the case.

 

As of now, the only thing you mother can do is apply. Hopefully she will be able to get it. But I always caution people to not have to much expectation just in case it turns out to be a denial.

 

Best of luck.

Thank alot 

But my father will be in my home country 

Would that work as a tie for her to come back

Second thing I am not a citizen yet so how will my mom become immigrant?

 

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

4 minutes ago, Alice L said:

Thank alot 

But my father will be in my home country 

Would that work as a tie for her to come back

Second thing I am not a citizen yet so how will my mom become immigrant?

 

Spouses are generally not considered ties to home, because plenty of past visitors have left spouses to illegally overstay in the US. But the interviewing visa officer decides what are ties and what are not. 

 

Secondly, COs have to follow US law which states that every non-immigrant visa (NIV) applicant be viewed as an intending immigrant. It is up to the applicant to prove that they don't intend to immigrate; the burden of proof would be on your mother to prove she does not intent to overstay. 

Edited April 8, 2019 by WeGuyGal

[Unlockable 7,306]

9 minutes ago, Alice L said:

Thank alot 

But my father will be in my home country 

Would that work as a tie for her to come back

Second thing I am not a citizen yet so how will my mom become immigrant?

 

 

Husbands, wives, children, parents, siblings get left behind all the time. We see it here very often. In fact, there was a thread this weekend where a woman was asking other members if they left behind their children because she did.

 

I said she would "live" in the US. Many immigrants live in the US without having any status. And one of the biggest groups of people living in the US without proper status are those who came over on nonimmigrant* visas like the visitor visa. I've said it many times here.... a lot of times most foreigners just want their feet on US soil even if it means they will never be legal.

 

*nonimmigrant visa examples are visitor visas, student visas, work visas.

Edited April 8, 2019 by Unlockable

[Alice L 18]

1 minute ago, Unlockable said:

 

Husbands, wives, children, parents, siblings get left behind all the time. We see it hear very often. In fact, there was a thread this weekend where a woman was asking other members if they left behind their children because she did.

 

I said she would "live" in the US. Many immigrants live in the US without having any status. And one of the biggest groups of people living in the US without proper status are those who came over on nonimmigrant* visas like the visitor visa. I've said it many times here.... a lot of times most foreigners just want their feet on US soil even if it means they will never be legal.

 

*nonimmigrant visa examples are visitor visas, student visas, work visas.

Got the point thanks 😊

[Crazy Cat 39,213]

7 minutes ago, Alice L said:

Second thing I am not a citizen yet so how will my mom become immigrant?

There are millions of people who are illegally living in the US because they either came into the country illegally or they came legally, but decided to stay and live here.........that makes it extremely difficult for law abiding individuals like your mother to get visas to legitimately visit family in the US.

[Alice L 18]

18 minutes ago, missileman said:

There are millions of people who are illegally living in the US because they either came into the country illegally or they came legally, but decided to stay and live here.........that makes it extremely difficult for law abiding individuals like your mother to get visas to legitimately visit family in the US.

True

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

1 hour ago, Alice L said:

We are not intenting to lie, my question was to understand the difference between ds160 qs intent to travel and return and the actual stay within the Visa time

Can they be different for any reason or is it unlawfull.

But thanks to some one who misinterpreted my post and gave negative feedback on it 

It was pretty difficult to Interpret it as anything other than “if we lie will we have a better chance of getting a visa”.

 

hopefully you understand now what you risk by lying.

 

by the way, Pakistan has a 48% refusal rate for B visas, so be prepared the outcome may not be what you want it to be.

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, missileman said:

There are millions of people who are illegally living in the US because they either came into the country illegally or they came legally, but decided to stay and live here.........that makes it extremely difficult for law abiding individuals like your mother to get visas to legitimately visit family in the US.

And even harder if the law abiding individual is caught lying at her interview.

Edited April 8, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[SalishSea 16,769]

1 hour ago, Alice L said:

So again my qs what should be written in ds 160 actual intention of stay?

The truth!

[Cathi 5,609]

My mother in law received a visitor visa last year. She's never worked, her husband passed away in 2014 and she's 65 years old.

 

No one can tell you her chances. She just needs to apply and tell the truth.