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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

Apparently, New Zeeland is now going to ban assault weapons.  A lot more than that needs to happen. These kinds of people need to lose their platform for hate, companies like Youtube and Twitter needs to be quicker about removing these kinds of people. I am sorry but encouraging hate and encouraging hurting people is not protected under free speech so don't even try to start that argument. 

 

Our world is going bonkers. 

So those people who had a go at Chelsea Clinton should be banned?

 

The worst atrocities I can think of in my life time were mainly carried out with machetes.

 

 

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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3 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

Nope, getting used to it is not the answer. Take away their platforms to spread hate, let them know this ####### is not accepted and stop protecting this under "free speech". 

Happened before social media, I do admit that the Twitter etc business model seems unsustainable.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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3 hours ago, Unidentified said:

Nope, getting used to it is not the answer. Take away their platforms to spread hate, let them know this ####### is not accepted and stop protecting this under "free speech". 

Unfortunately, these haters will always find a way, but I do agree, FB and Twitter has made it easier

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Would be nice if someone came up with a definition.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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2 hours ago, Unidentified said:

Definition of what? 

What is Hate Speech?

 

What are we banning?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Not sure why these events always get politicized. No politics(on either side) excuse such horrid attacks against innocent people in their place of worship. We can argue about immigration, religious or territorial conflicts, terrorism, racism, but there's simply no place for acts like these. I hope he never sees the light of day.

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14 hours ago, Boiler said:

A concept AOC would not comprehend.

Is there any concept that she does comprehend?

11 hours ago, jg121783 said:

I previously thought she was just lacking in brain density.

Hence the Occasional Cortex.

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19 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I just realized your avatar pic, looks like AOC

Ms Monkey is coming over to stuff the VJ Terms of Service somewhere...

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06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

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01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

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10 hours ago, Boiler said:

What is Hate Speech?

 

What are we banning?

Definition of hate speech according to google: abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation.

 

You can find pretty much the same in Visa Journe's TOS. 

 

 





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VJ Mods are going to be busy.

 

Just not sure banning the Koran is practical, obviously that would just be the start, wonder what Religion could survive that scrutiny? What Political Party? What news organisation.

 

No more Orange Mango, might be easier to list what is allowed. Perhaps we need that Chinese Social Credit system.

 

The big problem of course is who decides, we can not expect those who do to be of the same level as VJ Mods.

 

CNN just showed the Chelsea clip, Tiab is on commenting and obviously deflected and did not condemn the hate speech directed at Chelsea. Apparently calling out  Antisemitism is anti Muslim bias? That is what she said. Pretty soft interviewing but she is hanging herself. Apparently Ilhan should get a pass as she is higher up the SJW list, being Black and Muslim.

 

Perhaps these Politico's who call out hate speech should lead by example?

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

VJ Mods are going to be busy.

 

Just not sure banning the Koran is practical, obviously that would just be the start, wonder what Religion could survive that scrutiny? What Political Party? What news organisation.

 

No more Orange Mango, might be easier to list what is allowed. Perhaps we need that Chinese Social Credit system.

 

The big problem of course is who decides, we can not expect those who do to be of the same level as VJ Mods.

 

CNN just showed the Chelsea clip, Tiab is on commenting and obviously deflected and did not condemn the hate speech directed at Chelsea. Apparently calling out  Antisemitism is anti Muslim bias? That is what she said. Pretty soft interviewing but she is hanging herself. Apparently Ilhan should get a pass as she is higher up the SJW list, being Black and Muslim.

 

Perhaps these Politico's who call out hate speech should lead by example?

 

 

 

 

I am not even talking about Visa Journey mods and rules on here... 🙄 And why would we ban the Quran? If we need to go that far we would have to ban the Bible as well. 

 

Ihlan just said what no one else dared to say and getting support from Jews. 





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4 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

I am not even talking about Visa Journey mods and rules on here... 🙄 And why would we ban the Quran? If we need to go that far we would have to ban the Bible as well. 

 

Ihlan just said what no one else dared to say and getting support from Jews. 

You said you wanted to ban all hate speech, I assume it includes the written form.

 

And as I said I was not sure where we stop. Or who decides where we stop.

 

Antisemitism has been a bit of a taboo subject during my lifetime. Not sure nobody else has dared to say, might have gone down but certainly not disappeared. By your very own definition what she said is hate speech. 

 

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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Never mind......I missed some earlier posts.

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6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You said you wanted to ban all hate speech, I assume it includes the written form.

 

And as I said I was not sure where we stop. Or who decides where we stop.

 

Antisemitism has been a bit of a taboo subject during my lifetime. Not sure nobody else has dared to say, might have gone down but certainly not disappeared. By your very own definition what she said is hate speech. 

 

Where have I said I want to ban hate speech? The only post I have mentioned the word "ban" was to inform that NZ is banning assault weapons. You are the one talking about banning hate speech. I only said Twitter, Youtube, and Facebook needs to take their responsibility and limit their access to spreading hate. 

 

 





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