NY prosecutors announce Manafort indictment minutes after federal sentencing

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

This says a President cant pardon, State charges ???  Smart people what say you ?

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/13/paul-manafort-indicted-by-ny-prosecutors-after-federal-sentencing.html

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

4 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

This says a President cant pardon, State charges ???  Smart people what say you ?

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/13/paul-manafort-indicted-by-ny-prosecutors-after-federal-sentencing.html

But I would call this a classic case of double jeopardy though right?

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

12 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

But I would call this a classic case of double jeopardy though right?

I think it is separate crimes, double jeopardy basically says you cant be tried twice for the same crime if the trial resulted in an acquittal or conviction , if I remember my CJ classes correctly.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

25 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I think it is separate crimes, double jeopardy basically says you cant be tried twice for the same crime if the trial resulted in an acquittal or conviction , if I remember my CJ classes correctly.

I think so as well. But I didn't take the time to look at the crimes he has been convicted of and the state crimes he has been charged with.

[Dashinka 23,198]

9 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

But I would call this a classic case of double jeopardy though right?

Not a lawyer, but I don't think so.  Sounds like this was major collusion by the elites in power though to shove it to President Trump.  My understanding was that the indictment came down several days ago, but they waited for the sentencing yesterday to announce anything.  Heck, Manafort does appear to be a criminal, and more than likely Washington is full of folks on either side of the aisle that probably do or have done the same thing, but this does seem like malicious prosecution by NY State.  Hopefully, the parents of the college cheating scandal get the same treatment.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Not a lawyer, but I don't think so.  Sounds like this was major collusion by the elites in power though to shove it to President Trump.  My understanding was that the indictment came down several days ago, but they waited for the sentencing yesterday to announce anything.  Heck, Manafort does appear to be a criminal, and more than likely Washington is full of folks on either side of the aisle that probably do or have done the same thing, but this does seem like malicious prosecution by NY State.  Hopefully, the parents of the college cheating scandal get the same treatment.

One of the reasons I dont like special prosecutors, I didn't like it when they did it to Clinton and I don't like it now.  14 people convicted during White water. 

 

I am sure that if someone was given an unlimited budget and time, to investigate everyone I have associated with in the past 20 years, they could turn up something. even more so if my associates were powerful rich men, who had many high profile business dealings. 

[Dashinka 23,198]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

One of the reasons I dont like special prosecutors, I didn't like it when they did it to Clinton and I don't like it now.  14 people convicted during White water. 

 

I am sure that if someone was given an unlimited budget and time, to investigate everyone I have associated with in the past 20 years, they could turn up something. even more so if my associates were powerful rich men, who had many high profile business dealings. 

Thank you!  A special prosecutor is going to find something to justify their existence.  Can you imagine if Mueller/Wisemann came out and said no indictments, no collusion, no anything?

 

 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

Maybe manafort can get to a sanctuary city ... Then all is forgiven 

[TBoneTX 43,014]

Good analysis here by Andrew J. McCarthy:

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/433989-nys-political-prosecution-of-manafort-should-scare-us-all

The Gamble case is current in the Supreme Court.

[jg121783 3,907]

23 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Not a lawyer, but I don't think so.  Sounds like this was major collusion by the elites in power though to shove it to President Trump.  My understanding was that the indictment came down several days ago, but they waited for the sentencing yesterday to announce anything.  Heck, Manafort does appear to be a criminal, and more than likely Washington is full of folks on either side of the aisle that probably do or have done the same thing, but this does seem like malicious prosecution by NY State.  Hopefully, the parents of the college cheating scandal get the same treatment.

Like Podesta?

[Dashinka 23,198]

35 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Like Podesta?

The Podesta brothers, and probably many others.