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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ireland
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Hi! 

 

This is is my first post so I’m sorry if this is something that’s been answered a lot. My fiancée and I live in Ireland and are getting married this summer. He is an American citizen but has lived in Ireland for 20+ years.

 

Since our wedding has been planned, he’s gotten a teaching job in MA so we are planning to move over there. I’m incredibly stressed/upset because we can’t do anything visa wise in terms of our application until our wedding this summer. I don’t know if he can even apply for the visa until he makes the move to MA. What would be my quickest option to join him, a K3 or a CR1? Is there anyway we can begin the application in the months between our wedding and his moving over there? Getting married earlier isn’t an option. Thanks so much in advance.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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K3s are obsolete.  A K-3 will be administratively closed.  It will proceed as a CR-1.......so don't even bother with the I-129 at all.........approximate processing time is 12-14 months......you must be married before applying.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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k3 is absolute. dont waste time with k3

CR1 is what you want to apply. 14-16 month is what it will take. but with cr1, you can work right after the moment you cross US border which is a huge advantage. 

 

if he is still in IReland, then check DCF. (i know you said he is mobing to MA). If ireland is qualified for DCF then the processing is pretty fast. 

 

good luck

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6 minutes ago, Murphy1994 said:

Hi! 

 

This is is my first post so I’m sorry if this is something that’s been answered a lot. My fiancée and I live in Ireland and are getting married this summer. He is an American citizen but has lived in Ireland for 20+ years.

 

Since our wedding has been planned, he’s gotten a teaching job in MA so we are planning to move over there. I’m incredibly stressed/upset because we can’t do anything visa wise in terms of our application until our wedding this summer. I don’t know if he can even apply for the visa until he makes the move to MA. What would be my quickest option to join him, a K3 or a CR1? Is there anyway we can begin the application in the months between our wedding and his moving over there? Getting married earlier isn’t an option. Thanks so much in advance.

Once married and have prepared the petition and gathered all the required evidence, you can submit that very day

YMMV

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Welcome to the forum. There are some decisions you will have to make. But foremost, you are going to have to come to terms that there is nothing quick or fast about any of the options that are available to you. You likely will be spending many months apart before you can immigrate.

 

With that said....

  • First, the K3 is essentially dead. Forget about it.
  • You can apply anytime after you get married for a spousal visa. The time will take 12 - 14 months before you will get a visa, however.
  • Your fiance will have to make sure he plans to provide evidence of establishing domicile in the USA.
  • There are financial requirements that need to be met by your fiance. If he doesn't make enough money, he will need help filing an Affidavit of Support (cosponsor).
  • Since you aren't married yet, there is still the K1 (fiance visa) option. You will have to get married in the US, though.

“When starting an immigration journey, the best advice is to understand that sacrifices have to be made... whether it is time, money, or separation; or a combination of all.” - Unlockable

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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5 minutes ago, old-fella said:

k3 is absolute. dont waste time with k3

CR1 is what you want to apply. 14-16 month is what it will take. but with cr1, you can work right after the moment you cross US border which is a huge advantage. 

 

if he is still in IReland, then check DCF. (i know you said he is mobing to MA). If ireland is qualified for DCF then the processing is pretty fast. 

 

good luck

If they could, it would require an exception based petition and approval to proceed by the USCIS field office in London. 

YMMV

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ireland
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53 minutes ago, payxibka said:

If they could, it would require an exception based petition and approval to proceed by the USCIS field office in London. 

Sorry for the silly question but what is a DCF? Is it the department of children and families (that’s what google is giving me anyway!)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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1 minute ago, Murphy1994 said:

Sorry for the silly question but what is a DCF? Is it the department of children and families (that’s what google is giving me anyway!)

Direct Consular Filing........google that.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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1 hour ago, Murphy1994 said:

Sorry for the silly question but what is a DCF? Is it the department of children and families (that’s what google is giving me anyway!)

VJ has a guide about DCF, I would start there:

 

https://www.visajourney.com/content/dcf

🇷🇺 CR-1 via DCF (Dec 2016-Jun 2017) & I-751 ROC (Apr 2019-Oct 2019)🌹

Spoiler

Info about my DCF Moscow* experience here and here

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

🇺🇸 N-400 Application for Naturalization (Apr 2020-Jun 2021) 🛂

Spoiler

Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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There is no USCIS field office in Ireland so DCF is not an option.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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1 hour ago, Ryan H said:

There is no USCIS field office in Ireland so DCF is not an option.

 

Could they try for DCF via "exceptional circumstances" if the husband has a job offer in the US?

 

Short notice of position relocation: A U.S. Citizen petitioner, living and working abroad, who receives a job relocation within the same company or subsidiary to the United States, or an offer of a new job in the United States with very little notice.

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ghana
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10 hours ago, Ate said:

 

Could they try for DCF via "exceptional circumstances" if the husband has a job offer in the US?

 

Short notice of position relocation: A U.S. Citizen petitioner, living and working abroad, who receives a job relocation within the same company or subsidiary to the United States, or an offer of a new job in the United States with very little notice.

 

They could certainly look into that as an option.

https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-uscis-office/international-offices/united-kingdom-uscis-london-field-office

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Congratulations on all the exciting things coming up for you! The immigration process is daunting but don't let that overshadow how great getting married and a new job are!

 

This was noted above but worth repeating: your husband can file the I-130 that starts the process the same day you're married, as long as all the paperwork is ready.  I submitted mine the day after our wedding while I was still living abroad with my husband. I used my job offer letter and copy of a signed lease that was to start once I moved as my proof of income and domicile. 

 

I had not seen any mention of being up to date on tax returns.  If your husband hasn't been filing while living abroad, he will want to sort that out and can do so starting today.  (Note: Filing does not mean he owes anything, his income for 2018 has to have been around $100,000 to owe taxes to US while living abroad. He does, however, have to file with the IRS.)

 

 

 

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