US shutdown: Trump angered by Democrat rejection of 'compromise'

[Póg mo 1,749]

Sweet, so Trump has decided to accept, essentially the same bill he rejected back in December.

 

Trump sure is hell of a negotiator, that is for sure. I hope this goes in his next book, 'how to negotiate nothing, but help wreck the economy'.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

3 hours ago, Póg mo said:

Sweet, so Trump has decided to accept, essentially the same bill he rejected back in December.

 

Trump sure is hell of a negotiator, that is for sure. I hope this goes in his next book, 'how to negotiate nothing, but help wreck the economy'.

If he had not signed you would talk junk

If had got the wall you would talk junk

He did want you wanted and signed you talking junk

 

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[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, Póg mo said:

Sweet, so Trump has decided to accept, essentially the same bill he rejected back in December.

 

Trump sure is hell of a negotiator, that is for sure. I hope this goes in his next book, 'how to negotiate nothing, but help wreck the economy'.

How about... even though the dems refuse to negotiate, Trump allowed the government to resume so hundreds of thousands could get paid, while at the same time setting a short deadline for Congress to figure this mess out, or he will use emergency authority (which I think he should have done alresdy).

[Dashinka 23,196]

5 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

How about... even though the dems refuse to negotiate, Trump allowed the government to resume so hundreds of thousands could get paid, while at the same time setting a short deadline for Congress to figure this mess out, or he will use emergency authority (which I think he should have done alresdy).

It is amazing, the far left are claiming victory here.  Wonder what happens if the shutdown comes back in three weeks?

 

Overall, this is just another example of Congress not wanting to put their stamp on anything.  Both sides are a joke in that Article 1 body.  I think they got even more scared to do anything during the Obama administration, and now....

[Póg mo 1,749]

8 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

If he had not signed you would talk junk

If had got the wall you would talk junk

He did want you wanted and signed you talking junk

 

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Well if that's how you want to spin it, then by all means do so. Totally wrong, but that's never stop you before either.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

12 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

It is amazing, the far left are claiming victory here.  Wonder what happens if the shutdown comes back in three weeks?

 

Overall, this is just another example of Congress not wanting to put their stamp on anything.  Both sides are a joke in that Article 1 body.  I think they got even more scared to do anything during the Obama administration, and now....

The Republican Congress didn’t vote for anything that Obama wanted. 

5 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Well if that's how you want to spin it, then by all means do so. Totally wrong, but that's never stop you before either.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

Curious on this one, Pelosi and Schumer called for him to open the government before they'd negotiate, let's see if they were serious or just being asshats.

 

Ball's in their court now

[Póg mo 1,749]

What I want to know is. Why, and where, did Trump suddenly come up with his 5.7 or 5.6 Billion in extra funding request? It's almost like he pulled the number out of a hat. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

48 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

Curious on this one, Pelosi and Schumer called for him to open the government before they'd negotiate, let's see if they were serious or just being asshats.

 

Ball's in their court now

 

   I still think it play's out like I said earlier. They will negotiate, but they will ask for concessions that they know Trump cannot concede. 

 

   My gut feeling is Trump is setting the path for using executive power. I think the preference is to let negotiations fail and use executive power, rather than keep the government closed and use executive power. While I am sure there will be criticism either way, it would certainly face less legitimate criticism the first way.

 

   

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

3 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   I still think it play's out like I said earlier. They will negotiate, but they will ask for concessions that they know Trump cannot concede. 

 

   My gut feeling is Trump is setting the path for using executive power. I think the preference is to let negotiations fail and use executive power, rather than keep the government closed and use executive power. While I am sure there will be criticism either way, it would certainly face less legitimate criticism the first way.

 

   

I agree the end will be as you predict, but i think they were one-upping him and trying to show their political prowess. Its ego vs egos

[spookyturtle 9,465]

8 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

Its ego vs egos

Definitely.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

21 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

I agree the end will be as you predict, but i think they were one-upping him and trying to show their political prowess. Its ego vs egos

And We The People suffer for it...

[Steeleballz 7,550]

39 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

I agree the end will be as you predict, but i think they were one-upping him and trying to show their political prowess. Its ego vs egos

 

  Definitely egos. We know Trump is Trump. He may have surprised people at first, but he is actually fairly predictable. He will focus on the wall until he get's something done. The Democrats would get a better deal by negotiating something in return for the wall rather than getting nothing if executive power is used. If it was me I would give up something to get some of the things I want rather than knowing that I will end up nothing. If I look bad by doing that, I still have to do the best I can do even if it's a bad situation. 

 

  I don't think politicians really think that way nowadays. They are content to win a battle even if it means losing the war.  

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

54 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Definitely egos. We know Trump is Trump. He may have surprised people at first, but he is actually fairly predictable. He will focus on the wall until he get's something done. The Democrats would get a better deal by negotiating something in return for the wall rather than getting nothing if executive power is used. If it was me I would give up something to get some of the things I want rather than knowing that I will end up nothing. If I look bad by doing that, I still have to do the best I can do even if it's a bad situation. 

 

  I don't think politicians really think that way nowadays. They are content to win a battle even if it means losing the war.  

Head of nail meets hammer. Nicely said 

[OriZ 3,157]

11 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

How about... even though the dems refuse to negotiate, Trump allowed the government to resume so hundreds of thousands could get paid, while at the same time setting a short deadline for Congress to figure this mess out, or he will use emergency authority (which I think he should have done alresdy).

Should have definitely done it already, but let's hope he has the balls to follow through with this