K1 for ex wife sister

[aaron2020 11,651]

24 minutes ago, Daniela M_______ said:

Are there any consequences to the USC petitioners if proven that they are involved with immigration fraud. Not saying is the case... just curious.

Absolutely.  Google "US citizen charged immigration fraud."

[Paul & Marina 53]

Maybe you should join some off-shoot of the Morman church and your situation would be normal.

[MandW 310]

On ‎1‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 9:49 AM, Jerron305 said:

I bought my 1st wife to America on a K1 Visa and we have been divorced now for one year and me and her sister have connected over the time and I would like to file for a K1 Visa for her to come to America to get married is that possible???

you mean, divorced because you and the sister connected before it was time...man, hate to break it to you but the chances of you bringing the sister of the exwife you petitioned before with a K1 and married has zero chance. Major red flags , sure you can petition if you like to throw money away.

Now if you were married 10 years to the first wife then maybe a chance...but if its a marriage of like less than 2 years then forget about it, wont happen.

[Limey 550]

On 1/9/2019 at 10:17 AM, SusieQQQ said:

Hopefully there are no existing children because the confusion of being half-sibling  and cousin to the same kid at the same time could be mind-boggling

Not if they live in Alabama, from what I've heard

[MandW 310]

4 hours ago, MandW said:

you mean, divorced because you and the sister connected before it was time...man, hate to break it to you but the chances of you bringing the sister of the exwife you petitioned before with a K1 and married has zero chance. Major red flags , sure you can petition if you like to throw money away.

Now if you were married 10 years to the first wife then maybe a chance...but if its a marriage of like less than 2 years then forget about it, wont happen.

forgot to add this , if you were the sponsor for the exwife mentioned on the affidavit of support and its been less than 10 years since she got the k1, then you have to list that and even if you don't they will find out and count that as dependent against the income requirements. Not even sure you can have two people to sponsor...unless the ex left the states gave up her status...

[geowrian 22,335]

1 minute ago, MandW said:

forgot to add this , if you were the sponsor for the exwife mentioned on the affidavit of support and its been less than 10 years since she got the k1, then you have to list that and even if you don't they will find out and count that as dependent against the income requirements. Not even sure you can have two people to sponsor...unless the ex left the states gave up her status...

There's more rules to it than that. From the I-864:

"When Will These Obligations End?

Your obligations under a Form I-864 that you signed will end if the person who becomes a lawful permanent resident based on that affidavit:

A. Becomes a U.S. citizen;

B. Has worked, or can receive credit for, 40 quarters of coverage under the Social Security Act;

C. No longer has lawful permanent resident status and has departed the United States;

D. Is subject to removal, but applies for and obtains, in removal proceedings, a new grant of adjustment of status, based on a new affidavit of support, if one is required; or

E. Dies"

 

Note the 40 quarters of coverage is not the same as 10 years. It could be in fewer than 10 years if one can claim another's credits. It can be until death (of either the sponsor or the beneficiary) if one doesn't work and can't claim anybody else's.

 

You can sponsor as many people as you can afford.

[Paul & Marina 53]

I couldn't resist. I think in Alabama & Arkansas when you divorce you go back to being brother & sister

[Crazy Cat 39,192]

2 minutes ago, Paul & Marina said:

I couldn't resist. I think in Alabama & Arkansas when you divorce you go back to being brother & sister

Where is the "I hate you" button when I need it?

[MacUK 983]

Unusual situation but not entirely unique.

 

I used to have a friend when I was in the military.

His wife was previously married and her ex husband then married her sister so her children were being raised by their aunt/stepmother.

My friends marriage broke down and he subsequently started a relationship with another sister of his ex wife.

That sister had previously had a physical relationship with a man who at various times had been intimate with all three sisters (not at the same time! They're not weirdos!)

 

So while it definitely is a strange situation it's not entirely unbelievable but it will attract a lot of extra scrutiny 

[Going through 5,668]

15 minutes ago, MacUK said:

His wife was previously married and her ex husband then married her sister so her children were being raised by their aunt/stepmother.

My friends marriage broke down and he subsequently started a relationship with another sister of his ex wife.

That sister had previously had a physical relationship with a man who at various times had been intimate with all three sisters (not at the same time! They're not weirdos!)

Family functions must have been slightly awkward....

[mtempelaar 190]

On 1/10/2019 at 2:43 PM, geowrian said:

Note the 40 quarters of coverage is not the same as 10 years. It could be in fewer than 10 years if one can claim another's credits. It can be until death (of either the sponsor or the beneficiary) if one doesn't work and can't claim anybody else's.

 

 

Sorry to intervene on a -worthy post but this was interesting tidbit - can you explain this more?   Under what conditions can you claim someone else's credits???

[NikLR 13,220]

On 1/10/2019 at 1:32 PM, MacUK said:

Unusual situation but not entirely unique.

 

I used to have a friend when I was in the military.

His wife was previously married and her ex husband then married her sister so her children were being raised by their aunt/stepmother.

My friends marriage broke down and he subsequently started a relationship with another sister of his ex wife.

That sister had previously had a physical relationship with a man who at various times had been intimate with all three sisters (not at the same time! They're not weirdos!)

 

So while it definitely is a strange situation it's not entirely unbelievable but it will attract a lot of extra scrutiny 

I dunno the whole thing sounds like they're all weirdos.  While I think my BIL is a great person, I would never enter into a relationship with him even if my sister and I weren't happy being sisters.  That's just weird... 

[NikLR 13,220]

On 1/10/2019 at 1:12 PM, Paul & Marina said:

I couldn't resist. I think in Alabama & Arkansas when you divorce you go back to being brother & sister

My husband is from Alabama and I find this funny... LOL  obviously he had to search outside the country to find a non-sibling/cousin

[geowrian 22,335]

39 minutes ago, mtempelaar said:

Sorry to intervene on a -worthy post but this was interesting tidbit - can you explain this more?   Under what conditions can you claim someone else's credits???

It can occur with dependents or spouses. The conditions are limited, though.

https://www.ssa.gov/planners/credits.html

Woman-focused, but most (all? I didn't read the entire publication) of it applies to either gender: https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10127.pdf

 

For example, a housewife that was married to somebody who earned 40 work credits can still meet this requirement despite not having actually been employed herself.

It has also occurred with a child. One case in the past year here on VJ was a child who did this and therefore qualified for an I-864W (a form for an I-864 requirement exception) when they were being petitioned for a green card.

Edited January 14, 2019 by geowrian

[mtempelaar 190]

2 hours ago, geowrian said:

It can occur with dependents or spouses. The conditions are limited, though.

https://www.ssa.gov/planners/credits.html

Woman-focused, but most (all? I didn't read the entire publication) of it applies to either gender: https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10127.pdf

 

For example, a housewife that was married to somebody who earned 40 work credits can still meet this requirement despite not having actually been employed herself.

It has also occurred with a child. One case in the past year here on VJ was a child who did this and therefore qualified for an I-864W (a form for an I-864 requirement exception) when they were being petitioned for a green card.

So my husband, who was essentially a househusband for an extended period of time, *may* be able to claim credits as my spouse. Interesting.  I need to research more.  I knew about his survivor benefits in our retirement years, but didn't know about this possibility.  Thanks geowrian.  Always a fountain of useful information and links