NEWBIE asking for daughter and her fiancee pls be gentle!

[SalishSea 16,770]

8 hours ago, NJShoreMom said:

Thank you so much, As I mentioned above, he lives in Rome, but is actually a Turkish citizen.  We did want to get him over here, quickly, (and I understand that is probably not realistic) because they are expecting a baby in the summer (please no judgement)

 

Any other insights as I await the call from the lawyer, would be helpful....thanks from the bottom of my heart and good luck and prayers to anyone else going thru this journey

1) Marriage-based immigration is expensive.

2) NOTHING about it is quick.  If their petition and subsequent visa is approved (either fiance or spousal),  he will not be able to come here before their baby is born.  Even if they file a petition today, the entire process will take greater than one year.

3) Your daughter needs to be the one researching this and taking all of the initiative to learn as much as possible.  Many of us have spent YEARS reading and researching immigration.  Failing to have an adequate knowledge base of one's own (i.e. not lawyer or fiance or family member) can lead to additional costs and time delays.

4) If she is willing to do the research, there is no need for a lawyer.  Save those $1000s for the fees and travel expenses.   

[Cathi 5,610]

If their case is straightforward, there is no need for an attorney.

[Mike E 11,723]

15 hours ago, NJShoreMom said:

Thank you so much for your quick answers!  I'm even more confused now, but thats probably because I'm an older individual (which is why I want my daughter and her fiancee to get involved)  I do have a call out to an immigration lawyer as we speak, but seeing the prices...yikes....not sure we can add that to our plate.  

K-1: they get married in the USA.

CR-1: they get married outside the USA

 

I’ve  bad and worse news for you. 

 

If she cannot afford these fees, she cannot afford lawyer (which is the bad news) and her petition will be denied because her income needs to be significantly above the poverty line.  And the poverty line increases with each mouth to feed; you said later she that she is pregnant.  

 

If his English is poor his job prospects are also not good either.  

 

So the two of them should take a realistic view.  

 

 

Edited January 8, 2019 by Mike E

[John & Rose 7,237]

There is no need for a lawyer but people here are correct. It really takes more than just love for this journey to be successful. The financial requirements keep many couples apart. The consular officer’s job is to do his best to prevent a beneficiary who they believe may become a public charge from entering the US. Sad but true. Love is not enough. 

[John & Rose 7,237]

9 hours ago, ourjourney_pc said:

but during adjustment of status, you need to file for i864 i believed? which supposed to cost $120?

thank you

You are looking at CR-1. There is no fee for K-1. 

[payxibka 10,044]

10 hours ago, ourjourney_pc said:

but during adjustment of status, you need to file for i864 i believed? which supposed to cost $120?

thank you

There is no $120 i864 fee for aos

Thank you 

[thatguyuknow 147]

Good deal for the American spouse also. 

 

After 3 years of marriage to an Italian Citizen the American Citizen can apply for Italian Citizenship. 

 

Law:

Act No. 91 of 5 February 1992 (Italy)

Article 5 1. The foreign or stateless spouse of an Italian citizen may acquire Italian citizenship if, after the marriage, he or she has been legally resident for at least two years in the territory of the Republic, or after three years from the marriage if he or she has been residing abroad, 

[EmilyW 1,222]

I don't think the fiance is an Italian citizen.

[payxibka 10,044]

43 minutes ago, thatguyuknow said:

Good deal for the American spouse also. 

 

After 3 years of marriage to an Italian Citizen the American Citizen can apply for Italian Citizenship. 

 

Law:

Act No. 91 of 5 February 1992 (Italy)

Article 5 1. The foreign or stateless spouse of an Italian citizen may acquire Italian citizenship if, after the marriage, he or she has been legally resident for at least two years in the territory of the Republic, or after three years from the marriage if he or she has been residing abroad, 

Not applicable,  the alien is an Italian resident, Turkish citizen 

[Illiria 980]

Please also realize that if they ask you to be cosponsor you will be on the hook until he either earns forty quarters of working, rescinded his green card, becomes a citizen, or dies and this applies even if they split up (I know not something you want to think of if there is a child involved but it happens)

 

Does your daughter have employment? 

 

Just because he was living and working in Italy it doesn’t mean he is there legally (as is the case here people can and do live and work illegally in Italy), if he isn’t there legally then he cannot use the US embassy  in Italy to process a visa. 

 

 

[Celie 793]

20 hours ago, NJShoreMom said:

Thank you so much for your quick answers!  I'm even more confused now, but thats probably because I'm an older individual (which is why I want my daughter and her fiancee to get involved)  I do have a call out to an immigration lawyer as we speak, but seeing the prices...yikes....not sure we can add that to our plate.  

 

As I previously mentioned, he is currently living in Rome Italy altho he is a citizen of Turkey.  Would it matter if she traveled to Rome to marry him or would she have to go to Turkey?

IF they decide to go the K1 route and you're willing to spend a little extra for a second pair of eyes, Rapid Visa offers installments on a K1/AOS package deal where they help you fill out the forms and send them off to them. I know some people have had bad experience with them, but if you don't solely rely on them and only use them as a double measure, it really helps. Just make sure to do your research here, as well. I haven't had issues with them so far. And it helps to be able to make payments and have the AOS fee probably paid off by the time he arrives. It's definitely cheaper than a lawyer and you get your documents triple checked and you don't have to pay it all at once. The only thing they don't include in their plan is the $260 he has to pay for his visa application and the medical.

[Ketsuban 1,034]

Honestly I think given the circumstances that it may be better for your daughter to remain in Italy for now. 

[NJShoreMom 42]

2 hours ago, Illiria said:

Please also realize that if they ask you to be cosponsor you will be on the hook until he either earns forty quarters of working, rescinded his green card, becomes a citizen, or dies and this applies even if they split up (I know not something you want to think of if there is a child involved but it happens)

 

Does your daughter have employment? 

 

Just because he was living and working in Italy it doesn’t mean he is there legally (as is the case here people can and do live and work illegally in Italy), if he isn’t there legally then he cannot use the US embassy  in Italy to process a visa. 

 

 

He is there legally, he faxed over all his documents.  I'm curious, since everyone is saying we have to be making x amount of dollars in order to get him to be able to come here, can my income be added to my daughters?  (and yes, she is employed)

 

Also to the person who asked if his English is poor, I did say that English is not his first language.  However he speaks it quite well, and learning more every day.  He is fluent in five other languages so I am sure he can hold his own

[NJShoreMom 42]

2 hours ago, cduran said:

IF they decide to go the K1 route and you're willing to spend a little extra for a second pair of eyes, Rapid Visa offers installments on a K1/AOS package deal where they help you fill out the forms and send them off to them. I know some people have had bad experience with them, but if you don't solely rely on them and only use them as a double measure, it really helps. Just make sure to do your research here, as well. I haven't had issues with them so far. And it helps to be able to make payments and have the AOS fee probably paid off by the time he arrives. It's definitely cheaper than a lawyer and you get your documents triple checked and you don't have to pay it all at once. The only thing they don't include in their plan is the $260 he has to pay for his visa application and the medical.

Thanks!  I private messaged you...

[NJShoreMom 42]

2 hours ago, cduran said:

IF they decide to go the K1 route and you're willing to spend a little extra for a second pair of eyes, Rapid Visa offers installments on a K1/AOS package deal where they help you fill out the forms and send them off to them. I know some people have had bad experience with them, but if you don't solely rely on them and only use them as a double measure, it really helps. Just make sure to do your research here, as well. I haven't had issues with them so far. And it helps to be able to make payments and have the AOS fee probably paid off by the time he arrives. It's definitely cheaper than a lawyer and you get your documents triple checked and you don't have to pay it all at once. The only thing they don't include in their plan is the $260 he has to pay for his visa application and the medical.

Also, looking at that Rapidvisa website, it states for a higher fee, you can get the visa plus a work permit.  Someone else in this thread mentioned that the newly arrived fiancee can't work up to 5-6 months?  Don't understand why that would be, but do you know if this "work permit" bypasses that rule?