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I am a US citizen and my wife is a Turkish national. She applied and received a tourist B1/2 visa. One month later we submitted an I-130 application for a green card on her behalf and I moved back to the USA. She plans to visit me in the USA on the tourist visa for 2 weeks.

 

I heard this can be a problem, since the green card application signals to the State Department or CBP officers that the visitor intends to stay permanently in the USA in the future. The State Department usually does not approve tourist visas to green card applicants. However, we applied for the tourist visa BEFORE submitting the I-130.

 

During her visit, we have no intent to adjust status or for her to stay permanently.

 

Despite that, will this situation cause a problem at a US port of entry for my wife? What can she do to demonstrate that she is not intending to adjust status/stay permanently to the CBP officer? She is planning to show her return ticket, employment contract, letter from employer, and a letter from me attesting that the visit is temporary to the border agent. Is there anything else we can do?

 

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4 minutes ago, EldestElderSon said:

I am a US citizen and my wife is a Turkish national. She applied and received a tourist B1/2 visa. One month later we submitted an I-130 application for a green card on her behalf and I moved back to the USA. She plans to visit me in the USA on the tourist visa for 2 weeks.

 

I heard this can be a problem, since the green card application signals to the State Department or CBP officers that the visitor intends to stay permanently in the USA in the future. The State Department usually does not approve tourist visas to green card applicants. However, we applied for the tourist visa BEFORE submitting the I-130.

 

During her visit, we have no intent to adjust status or for her to stay permanently.

 

Despite that, will this situation cause a problem at a US port of entry for my wife? What can she do to demonstrate that she is not intending to adjust status/stay permanently to the CBP officer? She is planning to show her return ticket, employment contract, letter from employer, and a letter from me attesting that the visit is temporary to the border agent. Is there anything else we can do?

 

Thanks!

It will be up to the CBP officer whom she encounters. Your evidence of strong ties is critical ..other documents such as property mortgage etc MAY strengthen or may not ... hope it goes well 

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36 minutes ago, EldestElderSon said:

Despite that, will this situation cause a problem at a US port of entry for my wife? What can she do to demonstrate that she is not intending to adjust status/stay permanently to the CBP officer? She is planning to show her return ticket, employment contract, letter from employer, and a letter from me attesting that the visit is temporary to the border agent. Is there anything else we can do?

It may or may not raise additional scrutiny.

Carry evidence of her ties to return home. Do not carry sensitive documents that could be used for AOS (i.e. birth certificate, police certificate, etc.).

The letter from you will not help. Arguably it will hurt...raising the issue about returning home or not is not wise IMO.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Carry evidence of her ties back to her country, but don't offer any additional information unless asked, imo.  If asked, she (of course) must be completely truthful....good luck.....please let us know how this goes.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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10 minutes ago, EldestElderSon said:

Thanks for the replies.

 

Does it help that she has multiple stamps of entering and exiting EU countries? It shows she has traveled before without intent to permanently stay.

I don't think it is relevant now since she has a husband living in the US and a pending documented intent to immigrate.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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14 minutes ago, EldestElderSon said:

Thanks for the replies.

 

Does it help that she has multiple stamps of entering and exiting EU countries? It shows she has traveled before without intent to permanently stay.

But does she have a husband in those countries? Therein lies your difference. The simple fact is that entry is only ever guaranteed to USCs. All others must ask politely at the border and hope that the CBP officer agrees to let them in. I visited several times during the process but others were not so fortunate. 

 

A letter from you will do more harm than good and won’t be believed anyway. Save your ink and paper. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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1 minute ago, EldestElderSon said:

Yes she did. We lived in Europe together and she has an EU residency card through me (I'm a dual citizen).

 

Not that it really matters to a border control agent....

If you are responding to me you have backed up my point. She travelled through Europe with you, because she likes to be with you, as any wife likes to be with her husband. She didn’t overstay in those EU countries because the two of you were together. Wanting to stay with her husband is the most normal desire for a wife. That’s exactly what she is going to be suspected of doing by the CBP agent. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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3 minutes ago, EldestElderSon said:

I guess I shouldn't be too concerned. When they issued her a tourist visa, they knew she was married to a US citizen, so the concern of her entering to permanently stay or adjust status was still there, right?

EVERYTHING hinges on the thought of ONE person......the border agent with whom she come into contact with at the border.  He/she has COMPLETE discretion to allow her in or send her back....

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, EldestElderSon said:

I guess I shouldn't be too concerned. When they issued her a tourist visa, they knew she was married to a US citizen, so the concern of her entering to permanently stay or adjust status was still there, right?

Getting a visa is one thing. Being admitted into the country is another. A visa does not guarantee entry.

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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She can call you from the airport if denied entry, and you can go spend time together in an EU country as you have done in the past.  My husband, who lives in Brazil, and I decided not to risk a denial of entry on arrival since we have an outstanding I130 petition, so I go to see him in Brazil and spend time on the beach together, and we have future trips planned for Canada and the EU.  Your only risk in trying is the cost of the airfare and feeling of rejection.  And CBP officers are unpredictable in what they will decide.  Good luck!

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