People Who Have Never Lived In Poverty Should Stop Telling Poor People What To Do

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

A lot of free food available through charity is also carb, fat rich and processed or canned for longevity. As Yuna said, best of intentions is sometimes the problem

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

I was recently asked to help feed the homeless. I asked to Whom.  I didn't know ?

[yuna628 9,528]

1 hour ago, Randyandyuni said:

A lot of free food available through charity is also carb, fat rich and processed or canned for longevity. As Yuna said, best of intentions is sometimes the problem

Yep. Most charities will simply ask for canned and boxed goods. And that's understandable due to longevity. None of this stuff though you could really say is good for a body to eat.

[refugee 169]

3 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

A lot of free food available through charity is also carb, fat rich and processed or canned for longevity. As Yuna said, best of intentions is sometimes the problem

I rent a city p-patch. As part of the contract I owe 12 hours to plant, tend and harvest our "giving beds" Last year we donated 2100 lbs of vegetables. 

I understand that the fresh produce is very welcome by the clients. A small thing, maybe only 3lbs of food for the clients, but it makes me feel better (and I need the excercise)

 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

1 hour ago, refugee said:

I rent a city p-patch. As part of the contract I owe 12 hours to plant, tend and harvest our "giving beds" Last year we donated 2100 lbs of vegetables. 

I understand that the fresh produce is very welcome by the clients. A small thing, maybe only 3lbs of food for the clients, but it makes me feel better (and I need the excercise)

 

3lbs they would not otherwise have had, a noble cause

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

Oddly poor people in the Philippines are usually very thin. 

[jg121783 3,907]

17 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Oddly poor people in the Philippines are usually very thin. 

I think almost everyone there is thin. Though most of them live in a certain degree of poverty.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

51 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

I think almost everyone there is thin. Though most of them live in a certain degree of poverty.

But at least outside the cities most farm or have access to food from people that do

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, refugee said:

I rent a city p-patch. As part of the contract I owe 12 hours to plant, tend and harvest our "giving beds" Last year we donated 2100 lbs of vegetables. 

I understand that the fresh produce is very welcome by the clients. A small thing, maybe only 3lbs of food for the clients, but it makes me feel better (and I need the excercise)

 

Sounds interesting.   What is a p-patch?

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

1 hour ago, Randyandyuni said:

But at least outside the cities most farm or have access to food from people that do

I am diabetic. When I go to the PI I have to cut back on my medicine. One I even don't take and I always lose weight even though I eat a lot of rice. I think its the fact that eat very little processed food. 

[jg121783 3,907]

42 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I am diabetic. When I go to the PI I have to cut back on my medicine. One I even don't take and I always lose weight even though I eat a lot of rice. I think its the fact that eat very little processed food. 

I do think overall they do eat healthier than we do. When my wife and step son first got to the US I took them to Wal-Mart and there was a woman there who was extremely obese to put it politely. My step son was 10 at the time and had never seen anyone that big. He started pointing at her and asking my wife why she was so big. Kind of embarrassing at the time but kind of funny and understandable looking back on it.

[OriZ 3,157]

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In the U.S., we have become so accepting of the fact that poverty is not a symptom of a grossly unequal economy, or the result of numerous systemic failures, or the product of years of trickle-down economics, but instead, that the only thing standing between a poor person and the life of their dreams is their own decisions, their own choices, and their own failures.

No, what stands between them and the life of their dreams is usually the government. But yet the government is usually the one expected to be the savior. That said, I don't think it's fair to lump everyone into the same group and say if someone is poor it's because they're not working hard enough(that's like saying all rich people got there because they ripped everyone off). Everyone has very unique, individual and different circumstances, we are not to judge.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

I do think overall they do eat healthier than we do. When my wife and step son first got to the US I took them to Wal-Mart and there was a woman there who was extremely obese to put it politely. My step son was 10 at the time and had never seen anyone that big. He started pointing at her and asking my wife why she was so big. Kind of embarrassing at the time but kind of funny and understandable looking back on it.

That's one thing my mother has been commenting on to me lately how "Almost everyone she meets is overweight in some way shape or form". 

 

The thing with the Philippines though is that the meat they do eat is so ridden with fat. When I am eating say pork an rice and the pork is say cubed pork. I have to cut off about 2/3 of the cube because it is just pure fat. I have had my MIL look at my with crazy eyes and asking me "is it ok, or are you hungry?" because I am not eating the fat. 

So back in late 2017 my BIL after the holidays and drinking/partying he had a stroke and ended up half paralyzed, and losing his barangay councilor position because of it. 

[NikLR 13,220]

In a country where people are thin due to poverty, fat is a huge source of calories.  1g of protein has 4 calories.  1g of carbs has 4 calories.  1g of fat has 9 calories.  So when you have little to eat, the fat becomes the calories you need to consume on a daily basis.  Your body also requires more energy to burn fat than carbs or protein so unless you're sedentary, you use what you take in. 

 

Physiologically speaking, our bodies crave a certain amount of fat and need it to actually function correctly and create hormones.  

Edited January 7, 2019 by NikLR

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

1 minute ago, NikLR said:

In a country where people are thin due to poverty, fat is a huge source of calories.  1g of protein has 4 calories.  1g of carbs has 4 calories.  1g of fat has 9 calories.  So when you have little to eat, the fat becomes the calories you need to consume on a daily basis.  Your body also requires more energy to burn fat than carbs or protein so unless you're sedentary, you use what you take in. 

 

Physiologically speaking, our bodies crave a certain amount of fat and need it to actually function correctly and create hormones.  

Then my body can burn the fat around my love handles that would be great.