Arranged marriage

[Sunniman 0]

Hello. I am currently going to have an arranged marriage from Pakistan. The only problem is that I can not travel outside of the United States since I am currently on probation, but I would like to bring her to the United States until I am off of probation, and to move to Pakistan together. So I don't have to worry about applying for a greencard for her, etc. Is there any visa available for this? Since I will not be able to travel to Pakistan to physical meet her, and the only way possible to meet her is if she was to come to the United States. I know that does not meet the requirements for the K1 visa is there an wavier to this or is there anyway to get around that requirement? Or would there be any way to get a spousal visa without having to physically go to Pakistan to get married first?

 

I also am not from Pakistan, and I have no family from Pakistan.

 

Thank you for whoever here who can help answer my questions.

Edited December 21, 2018 by Sunniman

[Roel 7,191]

There is no way to get around a meeting requirement for k1 or cr1 visa. She can try to apply for tourist visa or you just have to wait. 

[Sunniman 0]

1 minute ago, Roel said:

There is no way to get around a meeting requirement for k1 or cr1 visa. She can try to apply for tourist visa or you just have to wait. 

I thought it was fraud if someone was to get a tourist visa with the intention to marry as soon as they came to the United States? Or is there a way around this?

[milimelo 4,167]

Why not postpone marriage until you are able to travel? 

[Sunniman 0]

2 minutes ago, milimelo said:

Why not postpone marriage until you are able to travel? 

Because we have already been postponing it, and it will be anywhere between 1 to 2 more years before I can travel. 

[milimelo 4,167]

Well if she can’t wait until you have clear legal situation and can travel maybe you need to find someone else. 

[geowrian 22,335]

There is a waiver for meeting, but this is nearly impossible to obtain. I don't think I've ever seen a successful case of it, and I think some of the even more senior members have only seen it like once or twice. Itr's a waste of several months of time and $535 filing fee to try.

 

Only realistic option is to meet in person. That may be soon (if she got a US visa) or it may be in years, but that's the process.

 

55 minutes ago, Sunniman said:

I thought it was fraud if someone was to get a tourist visa with the intention to marry as soon as they came to the United States? Or is there a way around this?

There's no issue marrying on a tourist visa.

There's a major issue (fraud) to enter with intent to stay.

 

Edit: Also, be sure your criminal history 1) isn't an issue for petitioning somebody, 2) she is aware of the details as they may ask her about it, and 3) you have proper documentation for when you can petition her.

Edited December 21, 2018 by geowrian

[Just Paul 4,591]

47 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Also, be sure your criminal history 1) isn't an issue for petitioning somebody,

He ultimately wants to leave for Pakistan.  Hopefully he is admitable there after his probation is done in the US.

 

There is little possibility of the intended spouse getting a tourist visa here.

 

OP sorry it doesn't look there are any options.

[JFH 12,189]

Consider this as part of your punishment, as it were. Just because you want something now, doesn’t mean you can have it. You will likely have to wait until probation is over before you can meet unless she can get a visa to come here to visit (and that’s unlikely). There is no visa for potential spouses to “come and try things out for a while”. Many people are unable to visit their loved ones in the USA because tourist visas are very hard to obtain for certain demographic groups. They all survive. No one had yet died due to being apart. 

[Sunniman 0]

Alright thank you everyone for your answers. They have been helpful. It seems like I will be better off petitioning  with the court to travel back, and forth continuously and breaking up my time like that until I am off of probation then trying to bring her to the United States. Since it seems like first getting her here on a tourist visa, then bringing her back on a CR1 or K1 will all together take close to a year or more. Plus there is no guarantee that she will be accepted for a tourist visa anyways if we where to apply for it. It seems like trying to bring her here would be a waste of time.

Edited December 21, 2018 by Sunniman

[Just Paul 4,591]

1 hour ago, Sunniman said:

It seems like trying to bring her here would be a waste of time

Tourist is probably a waste of time and money. 

 

If you only have 1 to 2 years left on probation you can probably get to Pakistan first.   You may want to firm up that you can get a visa with your record. 

[jan22 2,897]

Two things ---

 

First, if you are not Pakistani and have no relatives there, how is the marriage being arranged?  You don't need to tell us here if you don't want to, but you need to be aware that it might be a factor in some of your plans. Using an international marriage broker, for example, adds a new layer of issues to deal with.

 

Second, do you already have a US passport?  If so, you may want to check that it is still valid for travel; if not, you need to find out if you are eligible to receive one.  Some convictions and/or probations put restrictions on being issued a passport or restricting the use of an exsiting one.

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

9 hours ago, Sunniman said:

Hello. I am currently going to have an arranged marriage from Pakistan. The only problem is that I can not travel outside of the United States since I am currently on probation, but I would like to bring her to the United States until I am off of probation, and to move to Pakistan together. So I don't have to worry about applying for a greencard for her, etc. Is there any visa available for this? Since I will not be able to travel to Pakistan to physical meet her, and the only way possible to meet her is if she was to come to the United States. I know that does not meet the requirements for the K1 visa is there an wavier to this or is there anyway to get around that requirement? Or would there be any way to get a spousal visa without having to physically go to Pakistan to get married first?

 

4 hours ago, Sunniman said:

Alright thank you everyone for your answers. They have been helpful. It seems like I will be better off petitioning  with the court to travel back, and forth continuously and breaking up my time like that until I am off of probation then trying to bring her to the United States. Since it seems like first getting her here on a tourist visa, then bringing her back on a CR1 or K1 will all together take close to a year or more. Plus there is no guarantee that she will be accepted for a tourist visa anyways if we where to apply for it. It seems like trying to bring her here would be a waste of time.

If you're not petitioning her for a green card, there is no CR1.

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

7 hours ago, Sunniman said:

Alright thank you everyone for your answers. They have been helpful. It seems like I will be better off petitioning  with the court to travel back, and forth continuously and breaking up my time like that until I am off of probation then trying to bring her to the United States. Since it seems like first getting her here on a tourist visa, then bringing her back on a CR1 or K1 will all together take close to a year or more. Plus there is no guarantee that she will be accepted for a tourist visa anyways if we where to apply for it. It seems like trying to bring her here would be a waste of time.

There’s no point in k1 or cr1 if she does not plan to settle in the US. If it’s  just to get married here and leave again a tourist visa is perfectly sufficient. 

Edited December 21, 2018 by SusieQQQ

[Mollie09 1,543]

Well if you can't leave for another 1-2 years, sounds like you're bringing her to stay with you for that long? That's not tourist visa stay lenght.