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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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4 minutes ago, NearEthereal said:

 

This is going to be a double issue for AOS then hehe, I'm getting a degree in Cyber Security and am Cyber Security certified. My job is going to switch to Security Analyst soon, and that's one of the technical fields on the list too.

I have a related question. On the Adjustment of Status and other forms, will we have to fill out Yes to Has the person ever been denied a visa? Even if it's eventually approved and this is just a soft denial because there's no pending ?

 

My guess  is going to be yes, and all of the headaches associated.

 

 

 

My advice:  Stop playing the "What if" game in your mind......all is well......

Yes, I know it is easier  said than done...lol.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Thanks, I'll really try. Again, thank you all for the help, you've calmed me down, especially with the if they keep your passport that's good talk. :)

I'll try to stop worrying, but I know Christmas is coming and those 'business days' are going to start piling up and I very well may not hear back in a little while. We don't have any immediate plans, but I do have a wedding venue for a ceremony in 2020.

I don't think I'll have to worry about any plans getting mucked up if this is just a pause though.

 

 

Thanks again.

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I want to thank u for this thread. I explained the situation to my sweetie including the legal rules about close-of-business issue/refuse. She was denied a tourist visa twice (due to income) and i feel like the discussion about this practice will only help her composure when the interview day comes.

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2 minutes ago, TandSarahJane said:

I want to thank u for this thread. I explained the situation to my sweetie including the legal rules about close-of-business issue/refuse. She was denied a tourist visa twice (due to income) and i feel like the discussion about this practice will only help her composure when the interview day comes.

Tourist visas are a completely different animal, and have no impact whatsoever on fiance or spousal visa procedures.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Just now, missileman said:

Tourist visas are a completely different animal, and have no impact whatsoever on fiance or spousal visa procedures.

Agree completely. But the person is the same sweet Filipina going to the same Consulate in a 3rd party country where her enthusiasm was crushed twice before.

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1 minute ago, TandSarahJane said:

Agree completely. But the person is the same sweet Filipina going to the same Consulate in a 3rd party country where her enthusiasm was crushed twice before.

I understand.......The vast majority of tourist visas are denied due to insufficient ties to the home country.   For fiance and spousal visas, a completely different standard is used.........good luck.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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17 minutes ago, TandSarahJane said:

She was denied a tourist visa twice (due to income)

Income? Income is not a requirement for a tourist visa.

 

Having a stable job to return to - and ot likely to work in the US - is beneficial is sowing intent to return home. But any particular income level -or none at all - isn't required for a tourist visa.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Can confirm that everyone gets AP. Give it time, stop killing yourself with hypotheticals. :)

 

 

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40 minutes ago, TandSarahJane said:

She was denied a tourist visa twice (due to income) and i feel like the discussion about this practice will only help her composure when the interview day comes.

Being denied a tourist visa from the Philippines is very common.  With OFWs being the #1 export proving that there is enough to come back to is tough.  I had a friend with a good job, a side job (store) a home she owned and a 10 year old son.  They said she didn't have enough proof of a possible return to the Philippines.  It is at the sole discretion of the CO and my guess is less than 50% actually get approved.  

 

Those denials of the tourist visa application will have no impact on the fiancee/spousal visa petition.  It is important to see the difference between "application" and "petition".  They are VERY different.  The interesting question is "Have you petitioned anyone before".  Technically a tourist visa is not a petition.  Either way I think either answer can work.

PHILIPPINES ONLY!!!  CFO (Commission on Filipinos Overseas) INFO - Can't leave home without it!

 

PDOS (Pre-Departure Registration and Orientation Seminar) is for ages 20-59.  Peer Counseling is for 13-19 years of age.

It is required to have the visa in their passport for PDOS and Peer Counseling.

 

GCP (Guidance and Counseling Program) is for K-1 Fiancee and IR/CR-1 spouse ONLY. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

Being denied a tourist visa from the Philippines is very common.  With OFWs being the #1 export proving that there is enough to come back to is tough.  I had a friend with a good job, a side job (store) a home she owned and a 10 year old son.  They said she didn't have enough proof of a possible return to the Philippines.  It is at the sole discretion of the CO and my guess is less than 50% actually get approved.  

 

Those denials of the tourist visa application will have no impact on the fiancee/spousal visa petition.  It is important to see the difference between "application" and "petition".  They are VERY different.  The interesting question is "Have you petitioned anyone before".  Technically a tourist visa is not a petition.  Either way I think either answer can work.

In October they approved almost 10000 tourist visas.  I can only imagine how many applications there really were

YMMV

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Just now, payxibka said:

In October they approved almost 10000 tourist visas.  I can only imagine how many applications there really were

WOW.  That is incredible.  

PHILIPPINES ONLY!!!  CFO (Commission on Filipinos Overseas) INFO - Can't leave home without it!

 

PDOS (Pre-Departure Registration and Orientation Seminar) is for ages 20-59.  Peer Counseling is for 13-19 years of age.

It is required to have the visa in their passport for PDOS and Peer Counseling.

 

GCP (Guidance and Counseling Program) is for K-1 Fiancee and IR/CR-1 spouse ONLY. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

WOW.  That is incredible.  

Yeah.  The report I got from yesterday was that tourist visas were being denied left and right 

YMMV

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