'Give us $50,000 each to go home': Caravan migrants march to the US consulate in Tijuana, Mexico, demanding US government let them in or pay them off(edited)

[refugee 169]

I am done with this thread, for now 

 

I will just leave this here, it highlights some voices that are far more effective than mine, I encourage the read.

Federal law limits Trump's proposal to send troops to guard border

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/immigration/sd-me-military-border-20180403-story.html

2 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

and then we do not agree ... acceptance of cash to forgo asylum shows the true motivation of attempting the border to be financial not persecution based 

that sounds like common sense to me

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

1 minute ago, refugee said:

I am done with this thread, for now 

 

I will just leave this here, it highlights some voices that are far more effective than mine, I encourage the read.

Federal law limits Trump's proposal to send troops to guard border

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/immigration/sd-me-military-border-20180403-story.html

that sounds like common sense to me

feel free to walk away when confronted with logic  .... 

 

then there is no basis for an asylum claim, no need to process them, their request for payment negates their claim to persecution and by extension request for asylum 

[Crazy Cat 39,220]

6 minutes ago, refugee said:

I am done with this thread, for now 

 

I will just leave this here, it highlights some voices that are far more effective than mine, I encourage the read.

Federal law limits Trump's proposal to send troops to guard border

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/immigration/sd-me-military-border-20180403-story.html

that sounds like common sense to me

I read it...and I throw it in the trash can.  The President has every authority to use the military to stop non-citizens from entering the US if they disregard our law......anyone who believes otherwise is ignorant of the Constitution.

Edited December 12, 2018 by missileman

[refugee 169]

6 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

feel free to walk away when confronted with logic  .... 

 

then there is no basis for an asylum claim, no need to process them, their request for payment negates their claim to persecution and by extension request for asylum 

I feel free to walk away when I have better things to do and there is no ROI.  Like the man who taught me dry fly fishing: The first rule of fishing is don't cast over empty water.

Did you read the article? 

 

2 minutes ago, missileman said:

I read it...and I throw it in the trash can.  The President has every authority to use the military to stop non-citizens from entering the US if they disregard our law......anyone who believes otherwise is ignorant of the Constitution.

the experts in the article are ignorant...thanks for clarifying your thoughts.

Edited December 12, 2018 by refugee

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

It's funny how so many pretend these illegals have a legitimate asylum claim. Even  the most fringe MDL know it's a con. Almost as bad an acting job, as the senators who gushed "We believe you Dr Ford. 

[Crazy Cat 39,220]

The "Posse Comitatus Act" was created to prevent the military from being used to police Citizens and residents inside the US.  

[Dashinka 23,241]

26 minutes ago, refugee said:

I feel free to walk away when I have better things to do and there is no ROI.  Like the man who taught me dry fly fishing: The first rule of fishing is don't cast over empty water.

Did you read the article? 

 

the experts in the article are ignorant...thanks for clarifying your thoughts.

So we are to believe anything the media prints or disgorges?

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

29 minutes ago, refugee said:

I feel free to walk away when I have better things to do and there is no ROI.  Like the man who taught me dry fly fishing: The first rule of fishing is don't cast over empty water.

Did you read the article? 

 

the experts in the article are ignorant...thanks for clarifying your thoughts.

yes I did read the article, what makes you think I did not? 

 

His assessment of the article is correct, the military is not there to enforce law, but to augment those who do have the authority to do so, no violation of Posse Comitatus, do you honestly think that some left leaning judge in California, New York or Massachusetts has not self-immolated over their lack of ability to spin this to their advantage?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Just now, Randyandyuni said:

yes I did read the article, what makes you think I did not? 

 

His assessment of the article is correct, the military is not there to enforce law, but to augment those who do have the authority to do so, no violation of Posse Comitatus, do you honestly think that some left leaning judge in California, New York or Massachusetts has not self-immolated over their lack of ability to spin this to their advantage?

Just like when active duty assits in natural disasters in support role. 

Now if it was a matter of citizens inside our borders rioting, I believe Marshall law has to be declared, otherwise the Sates Natl Guard is used on states orders.

 

LBJ pulled a slick one , when put the natl guard enforcing segregation on Federal Orders 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, refugee said:

define "Invade"

There are several definitions, some of which include the word military (Wikipedia modified their definition of the word in the past month).  But here’s one:

 

2 [transitive] to go into a place in large numbers, especially when you are not wanted Every summer, the town is invaded by tourists.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, refugee said:

 

I am 100 % certain that if we process the claims in an orderly fashion, we will find the bad actors.

So tell us how the murderers, and MS-13 gang members get to America, please?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, refugee said:

yeah, thats why we have a process.  Let's process these folks. 

 

You can send 15,000 troops and take away from real border patrol efforts or you could deploy 1000 agents to gather these claims and process them and be done with it.  

Why would you advocate for sending 1,000 agents to deal with these line-jumpers, when there is SUCH a backlog of legal immigrant applications to work thru?

[refugee 169]

5 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

yes I did read the article, what makes you think I did not? 

 

His assessment of the article is correct, the military is not there to enforce law, but to augment those who do have the authority to do so, no violation of Posse Comitatus, do you honestly think that some left leaning judge in California, New York or Massachusetts has not self-immolated over their lack of ability to spin this to their advantage?

The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court just chastised the President of the United States ( unprecedented) last week 

 

America doesn’t have “Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judge,” Roberts told the Associated Press, which also noted this to be the first time the Republican-appointed justice had ever, even mildly, criticized Trump.“What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them,” Roberts expanded upon in a statement. “That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.”

http://fortune.com/2018/11/21/chief-justice-roberts-criticize-trump-obama-judge/

[Crazy Cat 39,220]

1 minute ago, refugee said:

The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court just chastised the President of the United States ( unprecedented) last week 

 

America doesn’t have “Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judge,” Roberts told the Associated Press, which also noted this to be the first time the Republican-appointed justice had ever, even mildly, criticized Trump.“What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them,” Roberts expanded upon in a statement. “That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.”

http://fortune.com/2018/11/21/chief-justice-roberts-criticize-trump-obama-judge/

Anyone...and I mean ANYONE who says the 9th circuit is objective is either stupid or a liar...take your pick.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

10 minutes ago, missileman said:

Anyone...and I mean ANYONE who says the 9th circuit is objective is either stupid or a liar...take your pick.

If judges are political,  then why the firestorm and partisan meltdown on Kavanaugh? Opps