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'Give us $50,000 each to go home': Caravan migrants march to the US consulate in Tijuana, Mexico, demanding US government let them in or pay them off(edited)

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They are on the Border defending their Country.

 

What they signed up for.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Just now, Boiler said:
1 minute ago, Boiler said:

They are on the Border defending their Country.

 

What they signed up for.

 

You think the Caravan is a threat to this country


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4 minutes ago, refugee said:

Deployments cost money and take away from other work.  Wasting Fuel, Resources, Mindshare and deployment capacity on a PR stunt is shameful . 

 

These folks are also away from their homes for no practical reason. They signed up to defend their country, not provide fodder for the ticker on Fox news.

From all enemies, foreign and domestic.  So basically, they are doing what they signed up to do, and what their boss seemed it necessary for them to do.

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if the caravan is truly made up of asylum seekers, why the willingness to return home in exchange for a payment? Does 50K insulate them from oppression, I think this actually shows the intent of the bulk of the migrants. Offer the 50K to leave their claim, use that as their asylum interview (acceptance of cash to forego asylum process), deport them and charge a 50K processing fee. Weeds out the ones trying to profit from the caravan as opposed to actually seeking asylum. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, refugee said:

Deployments cost money and take away from other work.  Wasting Fuel, Resources, Mindshare and deployment capacity on a PR stunt is shameful . 

 

These folks are also away from their homes for no practical reason. They signed up to defend their country, not provide fodder for the ticker on Fox news.

What should one do when there is a group attempting to invade the country?

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The group gave the US consulate 72 hours to respond to their letter.

"Dear Caravanners:  This is like the boy who murders his parents and then demands alms because he's an orphan.  Please go take a long walk off a short pier."

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

What should one do when there is a group attempting to invade the country?

Let them in or be Racist.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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Filed: H-1B Visa Country: Ireland
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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

What should one do when there is a group attempting to invade the country?

define "Invade"


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8 minutes ago, refugee said:

You think the Caravan is a threat to this country

Are you 100% certain there are not bad actors in the group?

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Begs the question what is the use of $50k when you will be returning to certain death?

 

Funeral expenses?

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1 minute ago, refugee said:

define "Invade"

Attempting to cross a sovereign border while under the flag of another country. 

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I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

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Filed: H-1B Visa Country: Ireland
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2 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

if the caravan is truly made up of asylum seekers, why the willingness to return home in exchange for a payment? Does 50K insulate them from oppression, I think this actually shows the intent of the bulk of the migrants. Offer the 50K to leave their claim, use that as their asylum interview (acceptance of cash to forego asylum process), deport them and charge a 50K processing fee. Weeds out the ones trying to profit from the caravan as opposed to actually seeking asylum. 

If we do not like the law that provides for folks to request asylum, then change the law.  That is Trumps real goal.  He wants to rile folks up over the current law.

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Are you 100% certain there are not bad actors in the group?

I am 100 % certain that if we process the claims in an orderly fashion, we will find the bad actors.


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I cannot calculate the curve and complete the figure by the experience of sight; I can divine it by conscience. But from what I see I am sure it bends towards justice -Theodore Parker

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13 minutes ago, refugee said:

Deployments cost money and take away from other work.  Wasting Fuel, Resources, Mindshare and deployment capacity on a PR stunt is shameful . 

 

These folks are also away from their homes for no practical reason. They signed up to defend their country, not provide fodder for the ticker on Fox news.

 

I spent 4 Christmases in Germany, 2 in Korea, 1 in Panama ... I was assigned so I did what I was ordered to. You do understand the concept of a volunteer military 

 

 

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Just now, refugee said:

If we do not like the law that provides for folks to request asylum, then change the law.  That is Trumps real goal.  He wants to rile folks up over the current law.

I think we can all agree on that, has become a farce.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Begs the question what is the use of $50k when you will be returning to certain death?  Funeral expenses?

Pay off the gangs and malos, who will then want even more.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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4 minutes ago, refugee said:

define "Invade"

Define "extortion"

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