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13 hours ago, refugee said:

Yes but I am a cheap freeloader who expects that my irrational fear of the neighbors kids throwing a ball into my yard justifies a near pathological view of my accountability in the matter.

Amazing.  

It's not that they kick the ball un your yard, it's that they move in your living room , eat your groceries and date your daughters. All while you pay for it. 

13 hours ago, bcking said:

Please elaborate on that.

 

How exactly are going to make them pay for it?

 

It's BS like this that ruins any chance we have for interesting, intelligent discourse and debate on these forums.

Wrong ,!

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7 minutes ago, The Nature Boy said:

It's not that they kick the ball un your yard, it's that they move in your living room , eat your groceries and date your daughters. All while you pay for it. 

Wrong ,!

Well we are crazy way out on the mixing of the metaphor limb anyhow :I so if he is dating your daughters, how is the fence supposed to help? Maybe the issues are a bit more systemic and the fence won't help, regardless if who pays for it.


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3 hours ago, bcking said:

How flattering.

 

Your argument fell apart as soon as you couldn't follow through.

I was trying to think what logical fallacy would be with the one word response. I don't think there is one. It is hard to debate "wrong"


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18 minutes ago, refugee said:

I was trying to think what logical fallacy would be with the one word response. I don't think there is one. It is hard to debate "wrong"

"Avoiding the issue" is probably the closest. The reality is it's really just exiting yourself from the argument, which would concede defeat in a debate.

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Just now, bcking said:

"Avoiding the issue" is probably the closest. The reality is it's really just exiting yourself from the argument, which would concede the victory to your opponent. 

Right!


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2 hours ago, refugee said:

Right!

 

2 hours ago, bcking said:

You get used to it in these forums after awhile.

Unfortunately that person got tired of this forum and went back to the General Immigration subforum where there is not a lot of discussion there. 

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3 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

 

Unfortunately that person got tired of this forum and went back to the General Immigration subforum where there is not a lot of discussion there. 

That person may be afraid of flooding this forum with Immigration topics when this subforum  seems to be dedicated to MAGAporn and Trump Bromance memes. 

 

Edit: and Where in the World is Hillary Clinton Posts.

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5 minutes ago, refugee said:

That person may be afraid of flooding this forum with Immigration topics when this subforum  seems to be dedicated to MAGAporn and Trump Bromance memes. 

Well because you are just pump and dumping articles without any sense of discussion at all about it. This forum has people on both sides(MDR and MDL) and even middle of the road(MOR) but we do try to have a legitimate discussion on some things.

 

Since you have been here you just have done one pump after another. This is not Reddit.... If you want to do that then go to https://www.reddit.com/r/immigration/    because the Mods or Mod I should say since there is only one don't do anything to control that subforum. 

 

Edit: it seems that the Mods have started catching on to you so your pumping and dumping days may be limited. 

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1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

pump and dumping articles without any sense of discussion at all

Yes -- prudent to knock this off, immediately and permanently.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Just now, Cyberfx1024 said:

Well because you are just pump and dumping articles without any sense of discussion at all about it. This forum has people on both sides(MDR and MDL) and even middle of the road(MOR) but we do try to have a legitimate discussion on some things.

 

Since you have been here you just have done one pump after another. This is not Reddit.... If you want to do that then go to https://www.reddit.com/r/immigration/    because the Mods or Mod I should say since there is only one don't do anything to control that subforum. 

A lot of people "pump and dump" articles here. I've seen 5 or 6 articles posted by the same person in a span of an hour.

 

Even when it isn't clearly "pump and dump", I've tried to have an actual discussion directly on the topic of the thread and get called out for being "off topic", because people want the topic to only be whatever opinion or viewpoint they feel is best.

 

Now I have been gone for a few months so perhaps "legitimate discussion" has become more of a thing here, but it certainly wasn't in the past.

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Just now, bcking said:

A lot of people "pump and dump" articles here. I've seen 5 or 6 articles posted by the same person in a span of an hour.

 

Even when it isn't clearly "pump and dump", I've tried to have an actual discussion directly on the topic of the thread and get called out for being "off topic", because people want the topic to only be whatever opinion or viewpoint they feel is best.

 

Now I have been gone for a few months so perhaps "legitimate discussion" has become more of a thing here, but it certainly wasn't in the past.

I love to have legitimate discussions but you do admit it does get abit heated in here sometimes.

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1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Well because you are just pump and dumping articles without any sense of discussion at all about it. This forum has people on both sides(MDR and MDL) and even middle of the road(MOR) but we do try to have a legitimate discussion on some things.

 

Since you have been here you just have done one pump after another. This is not Reddit.... If you want to do that then go to https://www.reddit.com/r/immigration/    because the Mods or Mod I should say since there is only one don't do anything to control that subforum. 

Define Pump and Dump.  

I have participated in the discussion of  every topic that I have posted. 


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1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I love to have legitimate discussions but you do admit it does get abit heated in here sometimes.

Absolutely.

 

Good discussions can get heated as long as they don't get personal and continue to involve either objective information or explicit "opinion" (but not opinion masquerading as fact).

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