Trump Has Made U.S. Policy Much More Resistant To Immigration — Without The Wall

[Unidentified 2,930]

2 minutes ago, missileman said:

Mexico can and should pay for the wall.......Just tax every dollar wired back to Mexico's economy...

If you decided to build a fence around your house would you make your neighbor pay for it? 

[Crazy Cat 39,220]

Just now, refugee said:

Even the bank transfers between multinational corporations? Or will we just pick on the poorest?

Whoever, whatever.......just divert the funds....

[Unidentified 2,930]

3 minutes ago, refugee said:

I can't disagree, it is just that the President insisted, and the president seems to have God-like stature in this forum. 

 

Just this year the President said "the wall is the wall, it has never changed or evolved from the first day I conceived of it.

Which is an interesting statement for him to say considering he has multiple design ideas for it? Wasn't one of them some kind of seethrough wall? And another idea was to put solar panels on a wall? He is an interesting man for sure...

[Crazy Cat 39,220]

3 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

If you decided to build a fence around your house would you make your neighbor pay for it? 

If they were allowing poachers to gain access to my property, absolutely.

[Unidentified 2,930]

1 minute ago, missileman said:

If they were allowing poachers to gain access to my property, absolutely.

You can't make them pay for the fence if they don't want the fence. Just as Trump can't make another country pay for something he wants. 

[refugee 169]

5 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

If you decided to build a fence around your house would you make your neighbor pay for it? 

Yes but I am a cheap freeloader who expects that my irrational fear of the neighbors kids throwing a ball into my yard justifies a near pathological view of my accountability in the matter.

4 minutes ago, missileman said:

If they were allowing poachers to gain access to my property, absolutely.

Amazing.  

[Crazy Cat 39,220]

2 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

You can't make them pay for the fence if they don't want the fence. Just as Trump can't make another country pay for something he wants. 

Absolutely false.........

[refugee 169]

2 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

You can't make them pay for the fence if they don't want the fence. Just as Trump can't make another country pay for something he wants. 

I am going to spend 3 weeks all inclusive in Cabo, and my Mexico is going to pay for it!

1 minute ago, missileman said:

Absolutely false.........

Stupendous

[Crazy Cat 39,220]

1 minute ago, refugee said:

I am going to spend 3 weeks all inclusive in Cabo, and my Mexico is going to pay for it!

Stupendous

False equivalence-  look it up.

[Unidentified 2,930]

3 minutes ago, missileman said:

Absolutely false.........

Oh really? In what universe can you force your neighbor to foot the bill for your fence? 

[refugee 169]

1 minute ago, missileman said:

False equivalence-  look it up.

Sweet, you are aware if logical fallacies then.  

 

Actually it was sarcasm.

[bcking 3,157]

45 minutes ago, missileman said:

Absolutely false.........

Please elaborate on that.

 

How exactly are going to make them pay for it?

 

It's BS like this that ruins any chance we have for interesting, intelligent discourse and debate on these forums.

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[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 hours ago, refugee said:

I would not refer to the Trump Organization as a criminal enterprise , although many have

You are the only one who used those words.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Illegal immigration is down because everybody is claiming asylum when they are caught by CBP.

To be clear, the ones being caught in the act are going down.  No way for us to know how many succeed in crossing without getting caught.

[eieio 1,594]

The wall is a needed tool to help reduce /stop illegals.  The wall will pay for itself by reducing handouts and benefits to all of the illegals it stops. Once the wall is built then we can move on to cracking down on employers, resolution of DACA people, visa overstays, fraud etc.