Early Naturalization For SOFA Spouse

[lierre 224]

29 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

Why would you need to call the misinformation line when their official web page has the information? 

 

Because filing an N-400 if you don’t actually qualify based on requirements would be a costly error. And I personally prefer talking to people in addition to interpreting legalese.

 

And lastly, because family members of military don’t qualify for an “early” naturalization. And I’ve discussed this with an USCIS hotline person to clarify that it was only expedited naturalization and there’s no such thing as the myth that if you’re married to military assigned overseas, you get naturalized right away even without meeting the minimum year requirement.

 

Edited November 1, 2018 by lierre

[geowrian 22,335]

So if USCIS gives you wrong or incomplete information (as they many times do), would the error(s) not be as severe?

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

38 minutes ago, lierre said:

 

Because filing an N-400 if you don’t actually qualify based on requirements would be a costly error. And I personally prefer talking to people in addition to interpreting legalese.

 

And lastly, because family members of military don’t qualify for an “early” naturalization. And I’ve discussed this with an USCIS hotline person to clarify that it was only expedited naturalization and there’s no such thing as the myth that if you’re married to military assigned overseas, you get naturalized right away even without meeting the minimum year requirement.

 

You don't get naturalization right away. The permanent resident spouse that ALREADY has permanent residency and whose spouse has orders overseas must first send in the N-400 with that they are applying with the 319b, and orders for overseas. 

Edited November 1, 2018 by Cyberfx1024

[lierre 224]

10 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

You don't get naturalization right away. The permanent resident spouse that ALREADY has permanent residency and whose spouse has orders overseas must first send in the N-400 with they are applying with the 319b and orders for overseas. 

So, no time requirement? And by time, I mean including time spent with spouse on overseas assignment if applicable. Is that the point of your response? Just clarifying as you did not specifically mention it.

 

i know there are overseas naturalizations and expedited naturalizations. But I was given info that you can’t apply for naturalization soon after you receive LPR status related to a spouse immigration visa. You can only do so after you meet either the 3- or 5-year requirement

Edited November 1, 2018 by lierre

[lierre 224]

17 minutes ago, geowrian said:

So if USCIS gives you wrong or incomplete information (as they many times do), would the error(s) not be as severe?

The question is about “early” naturalization.

 

Severity of any errors, of course, will be up to the POV of the person at the receiving end.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

2 minutes ago, lierre said:

So, no time requirement? And by time, I mean including time spent with spouse on overseas assignment if applicable. Is that what the point of your response was?

 

i know there are overseas naturalizations and expedited naturalizations. But I was given info that you can’t apply for naturalization soon after you receive LPR status related to a spouse immigration visa. You can only do so after you meet either the 3- or 5-year requirement

No, time requirement at all as long as the spouse filing for Naturalization is a permanent resident and will be on the orders for going abroad. 

 

Where did you get this information from? 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

12 minutes ago, lierre said:

The question is about “early” naturalization.

 

Severity of any errors, of course, will be up to the POV of the person at the receiving end.

It has been proven time and time again on here that the people on the phone at USCIS aren't worth anything in regards to advice and what to do. 

[lierre 224]

4 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

No, time requirement at all as long as the spouse filing for Naturalization is a permanent resident and will be on the orders for going abroad. 

 

Where did you get this information from? 

 

Unfortunately, it was through an USCIS phone call years ago when I was a conditional resident and my military member spouse was potentially getting an overseas assignment (which didn’t happen).

 

I didn’t want to be on an overseas assignment with my spouse stuck without a job because my field’s open positions are only available to US citizens. That’s why I looked into it.

 

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

4 minutes ago, lierre said:

 

Unfortunately, it was through an USCIS phone call years ago when I was a conditional resident and my military member spouse was potentially getting an overseas assignment (which didn’t happen).

I didn’t want to be on an overseas assignment with my spouse stuck without a job because my field’s open positions are only available to US citizens. That’s why I looked into it.

Thanks for the clarification!

Not a problem at all and I am happy to help. I was looking in to it hardcore because I was thinking about taking a job overseas as a GS civilian with the option of taking my family as well. I heard about it a little on here and then I read up on it to ensure that I had the information I needed to know to make an informed decision. 

[lierre 224]

5 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Not a problem at all and I am happy to help. I was looking in to it hardcore because I was thinking about taking a job overseas as a GS civilian with the option of taking my family as well. I heard about it a little on here and then I read up on it to ensure that I had the information I needed to know to make an informed decision. 

I guess I'm glad my spouse didn't end up with an overseas assignment at that time. I would have been pretty angry when I eventually find out I was given wrong information.

 

Good luck with the job search (if you're still on it)! GS contractor overseas jobs seem great and I've yet to meet an overseas contractor who didn't like their assignment. (But then again, we were in Japan... what was not to like.)

 

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

22 minutes ago, lierre said:

I guess I'm glad my spouse didn't end up with an overseas assignment at that time. I would have been pretty angry when I eventually find out I was given wrong information.

Good luck with the job search (if you're still on it)! GS contractor overseas jobs seem great and I've yet to meet an overseas contractor who didn't like their assignment. (But then again, we were in Japan... what was not to like.)

Yeah I would have been mad as well if given the bad information. 

 

Oh I am not worried about my job I am already a GS Civilian not Contractor because there is a difference. I am a GS Civilian working in the Federal Government not a Contractor. My dream job was ALWAYS to go overseas as a GS Civilian with my family and lo an behold I get an offer right when my asawa and I start to look for houses to buy. So needless to say I turned down the job. But if the job I applied for in Manila or Okinawa says come aboard then I will do it. Where in Japan were you? 

 

 

[lierre 224]

1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Yeah I would have been mad as well if given the bad information. 

 

Oh I am not worried about my job I am already a GS Civilian not Contractor because there is a difference. I am a GS Civilian working in the Federal Government not a Contractor. My dream job was ALWAYS to go overseas as a GS Civilian with my family and lo an behold I get an offer right when my asawa and I start to look for houses to buy. So needless to say I turned down the job. But if the job I applied for in Manila or Okinawa says come aboard then I will do it. Where in Japan were you? 

 

 

Okinawa! Lovely place for surfing, fishing, and scuba diving. But I'd move to anywhere in Japan in a heartbeat. My spouse however prefers not to. 😂

 

Manila isn't as awesome to live in (I grew up there), but obviously, it's access to everything Filipino and I miss the comfort of living there.