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Hi everyone! I am starting to get a little freaked out as I read many people have gotten an RFE due to the letter of intent to marry as it did not have an “wet” signature. I have sent mine via email ( to my fiancé ) and signed mine with the Adobe  Fill & Sign app, so it is my signature not just a typed name and last name. Did anybody get RFE’s due to this ? 

Thanks in advance ! 

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10 minutes ago, Vero.nica_U said:

Hi everyone! I am starting to get a little freaked out as I read many people have gotten an RFE due to the letter of intent to marry as it did not have an “wet” signature. I have sent mine via email ( to my fiancé ) and signed mine with the Adobe  Fill & Sign app, so it is my signature not just a typed name and last name. Did anybody get RFE’s due to this ? 

Thanks in advance ! 

 

Unusual for this as for several years now the beneficiary is able to sign and scan their copy to the petitioner. Perhaps it's because it is an adobe/digital signature and not a hand written signature. Petitioner's should always be "wet" signature.

 

Best advice is print new copy, sign it by hand, then scan and email it to the petitioner so they can send it in to fulfill the RFE.

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27 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

Unusual for this as for several years now the beneficiary is able to sign and scan their copy to the petitioner. Perhaps it's because it is an adobe/digital signature and not a hand written signature. Petitioner's should always be "wet" signature.

 

Best advice is print new copy, sign it by hand, then scan and email it to the petitioner so they can send it in to fulfill the RFE.

Yes he hand wrote his, but I had sent mine signed with adobe which is still my signature tho handwritten name and last name but using that app cause it made it so much easier I HOPE I WONT GET AN RFE BECAUSE OF THAT 😒😥

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31 minutes ago, MikeMc said:

Only yours needed to be "wet" hers scanned is fine.

But it is hit or miss with yours being wet. Some have, some haven't.

That’s what i hope for too, cause he is the petitioner not me hopefully they will be nice to us lol and wont give us an RFE for that ughhh

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On 10/17/2018 at 3:40 PM, Ben&Zian said:

Perhaps it's because it is an adobe/digital signature and not a hand written signature.

That is exactly my first thought.  They should sign, scan and return.  


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On ‎10‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 4:29 PM, Vero.nica_U said:

Hi everyone! I am starting to get a little freaked out as I read many people have gotten an RFE due to the letter of intent to marry as it did not have an “wet” signature. I have sent mine via email ( to my fiancé ) and signed mine with the Adobe  Fill & Sign app, so it is my signature not just a typed name and last name. Did anybody get RFE’s due to this ? 

Thanks in advance ! 

 

On ‎10‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 4:38 PM, MikeMc said:

Only yours needed to be "wet" hers scanned is fine.

But it is hit or miss with yours being wet. Some have, some haven't.

 

On ‎10‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 4:40 PM, Ben&Zian said:

 

Unusual for this as for several years now the beneficiary is able to sign and scan their copy to the petitioner. Perhaps it's because it is an adobe/digital signature and not a hand written signature. Petitioner's should always be "wet" signature.

 

Best advice is print new copy, sign it by hand, then scan and email it to the petitioner so they can send it in to fulfill the RFE.

This was a question that another member, don't remember which thread, but they emailed their Embassy to find out what their ruling would be and they were told that scanned signature of both petitioner and beneficiary were acceptable. BUT, there was some one else who had just walked out of their interview and they required a wet signature from the petitioner and received a 221(g).

 

There is no hard ruling on this, so still depends on the Embassy. If you want to save $70 to $100 to send a wet signature by FedEx, I would recommend that you email your Embassy sooner then later to determine what their status. If you get an response, please share it with the group. If enough of you send the email, the Embassy's are gong to put that into their P3 letter and it won't be an issue.

 

Here is what USCIS will accept but they are part of Homeland Security while the Embassies are part of DOS (Dept of State). Two different jurisdictions.

 

"A signature is valid even if the original signature is later photocopied, scanned, faxed, or similarly reproduced. Regardless of how it is transmitted to USCIS, the copy must be of an original document containing a handwritten, ink signature, unless regulations or the form instructions state otherwise. USCIS will not accept signatures created by a typewriter, word processor, stamp, auto-pen, or similar device."

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/interview/interview-prepare/required-documents.html

 

https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-finalizes-guidance-signature-requirements

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Laws/Memoranda/2018/2018-02-16-PM-602-0134.1-Signatures-on-Paper-Applications-Petitions-Requests-and-Other-Documents.pdf

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Outreach/Draft%20Memorandum%20for%20Comment/PED_SignatureRequirementPM.pdf

 

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