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[Keith & Arileidi 437]

10 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

These people are not being disenfranchised anymore than non citizens are. They have no legal right to vote.

USC naturally inherits the right to vote while non-citizens do not. 

A subset of people decide whether an inmate or exfellon has the ability to vote. This is called disenfranchisment. 

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

They lose a lot more rights than voting. 2 amnd right come to mine,  4th Amnd comes to mind, 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

10 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

USC naturally inherits the right to vote while non-citizens do not. 

A subset of people decide whether an inmate or exfellon has the ability to vote. This is called disenfranchisment. 

 

Do you vote in German elections?

What about Venezuelan ones?  No?  Why not?  Oh wait, you don’t have the RIGHT to vote, because you are not a citizen of those countries!  Ditto non-USCs.  Get real, Keith.  

 

There is no such thing as an exfellon.  Not a word.  A felon cannot vote while incarcerated.  However, only FOUR states require personal restitution of voting rights.  That means all the other states allow voting after the sentence is served (some add in probation and/or parole periods).  So what you are complaining about is criminals not getting to vote, and ex-felons in only four states.  Not really an issue, I would say.

 

 

 

[Ban Hammer 12,829]

34 minutes ago, Marty Byrde said:

I am scratching my head trying to figure out what Voter ID has to do with Felons voting rights 

that makes two of us.  i'm talking about felons voting.  you are trying to make it broader than i stated.

35 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

USC naturally inherits the right to vote while non-citizens do not. 

A subset of people decide whether an inmate or exfellon has the ability to vote. This is called disenfranchisment. 

 

it's called legal recourse when someone can't obey the law and can't adhere to social norms.

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

13 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

People who have been released from prison and aren't felons have paid their debt to society and regain their right to vote. Felons are people who have committed a crime so egregious our society has agreed that they should be stripped of certain rights. Life is full of choices. These people chose to commit a felony and by extension have chosen to forfeit their right to vote. No disenfranchisment here.

 

13 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

when they are convicted of a felony, yes.  hence the reason their right to vote and own firearms is lost.

I believe it varies between voting district.. but some districts are trying to work out the legal details to give fellons their right to vote back.. the biggest issue is what district they should be voting for.

 

And firearms can be bought and carried by non-citizens. So clearly the two rights aren't on the same level. 

 

 

[Ban Hammer 12,829]

2 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

 

I believe it varies between voting district.. but some districts are trying to work out the legal details to give fellons their right to vote back.. the biggest issue is what district they should be voting for.

 

And firearms can be bought and carried by non-citizens. So clearly the two rights aren't on the same level. 

 

 

a legal permanent resident, who has passed background checks and has shown their ability to follow the law?  you're right, not on the same level.

[jg121783 3,907]

2 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

USC naturally inherits the right to vote while non-citizens do not. 

A subset of people decide whether an inmate or exfellon has the ability to vote. This is called disenfranchisment. 

 

No. Disenfranchisment is when someone with the right to vote is prevented from voting by another party. Inmates or felons voluntarily gave up their right to vote by choosing to break the law. Just like when a USC chooses to give up their right to vote if they renounce their citizenship. By the way you still haven't explained what an exfelon is.

[Dashinka 23,200]

5 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

We aren't every country.

And its fine to require an ID.. you just can't change the rules without addressing the disenfranchised. 

Doesn’t an illegal voter disenfranchise those that can legally vote?

[Dashinka 23,200]

4 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

USC naturally inherits the right to vote while non-citizens do not. 

A subset of people decide whether an inmate or exfellon has the ability to vote. This is called disenfranchisment. 

 

I don’t think it is disenfranchisement.  Btw, can you actually pin all these laws regarding felons losing their right to vote to the GOP?  As to voter ID laws, I believe most of those include a method for those that cannot afford to get an ID to actually get one.

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[The Nature Boy 7,659]

3 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

 

I believe it varies between voting district.. but some districts are trying to work out the legal details to give fellons their right to vote back.. the biggest issue is what district they should be voting for.

 

And firearms can be bought and carried by non-citizens. So clearly the two rights aren't on the same level. 

 

 

They vote in the district they live in. Not complicated