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8 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

We used to hear that it was alright to physically attack Nazis and Racists, what's wrong with including socialists on that list, they have been very destructive to civilization over the years?

Not sure exactly what Antifa is but beyond Socialists. Hard Left, Hard Right they have much more in common with each other.

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9 hours ago, Póg mo said:

From Snopes: Soros

Fixxored for ya.

 

But seriously... just because one person in a fascist group says “we didn’t do it”, you believe.

 

But did you believe when Kavanaugh said he didn’t do it?  Didja?

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5 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

Fixxored for ya.

 

But seriously... just because one person in a fascist group says “we didn’t do it”, you believe.

 

But did you believe when Kavanaugh said he didn’t do it?  Didja?

I was thinking the same thing.  I guess Snopes has to believe anything an extreme leftist says.

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28 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

Fixxored for ya.

What were people saying earlier about deflection again😀

 

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But seriously... just because one person in a fascist group says “we didn’t do it”, you believe.

But seriously just because someone posted a picture something claiming to ANTIFA, you believe.

 

 

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But did you believe when Kavanaugh said he didn’t do it?  Didja?

Slightly different situation though, in Kavanaugh's case, we had a couple of witnesses claiming he tried to sexually assault them. In this case all we have is a badly spelled picture of a poster, a anyone could made themselves. What evidence apart from the fact that ANTIFA have been crystal in their goals up until now, so unless you can produce a photo of someone producing the poster, and you can show a direct link between that person and ANTIFA, I believe we in this situation must give ANTIFA the benefit of the doubt. 

At any rate, the fact that someone on an official Antifa Facebook page thought to categorically deny producing the poster and its message, we can only assume that this implies that ANTIFA doesn't hold such views. 

Produce a paper trail or actual evidence to prove otherwise, or move on.

 

If someone made a poster and signed your name, to say who produced it, do we automatically assume that the poster is legit? 

 

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42 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I was thinking the same thing.  I guess Snopes has to believe anything an extreme leftist says.

Rush Limbaugh is neutral, but scoops are biassed. Give me a break.

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2 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Rush Limbaugh is neutral, but scoops are biassed. Give me a break.

Who here ever claimed that Rush Limbaugh was neutral?  He is far from neutral, he is a stanch conservative.  I think you are confused with those in the MDL that believe the mainstream media outlets and sites like Snopes are not biased. 

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7 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Slightly different situation though, in Kavanaugh's case, we had a couple of witnesses claiming he tried to sexually assault them.

witnesses tend to corroborate a story not make additional unsubstantiated statements, the sum lack of believability of those women was legendary ... I think maybe something happened somewhere, maybe sometime with someone maybe but I am sure it was Kavanaugh

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3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Who here ever claimed that Rush Limbaugh was neutral?  He is far from neutral, he is a stanch conservative.  I think you are confused with those in the MDL that believe the mainstream media outlets and sites like Snopes are not biased. 

Who ever said, other than you of course, that I believe that the main stream media and Snoops are unbiased? It certainly was not me. The mainstream media does have to have to adhere to certain journalistic standards, something Rush Does not. He is just blabber mouth on the radio, pushing an agenda. If you don't like Snoops, then show were they're lying on this issue? Also explain to me how come the right is perfectly okay with the Koch brothers using their wealth to get tax cuts and spread their agenda, but George Soros is evil doing the same or similar. 

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6 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

witnesses tend to corroborate a story not make additional unsubstantiated statements, the sum lack of believability of those women was legendary ... I think maybe something happened somewhere, maybe sometime with someone maybe but I am sure it was Kavanaugh

Mrs Ford was very believable, which is why a majority of Americans believed her. It's very difficult to gather evidence of a sexual assault, at the time of a sexual assault because I sure you might be able to imagine women in such situations are too busy trying to escape the cluches of the people doing the assault.  Perhaps you feel that she should have stayed round and to be raped, so the woman might have physical evidence? Of course then she would run the risk of being blamed for leading him on. The same old story.

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13 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

witnesses tend to corroborate a story not make additional unsubstantiated statements, the sum lack of believability of those women was legendary ... I think maybe something happened somewhere, maybe sometime with someone maybe but I am sure it was Kavanaugh

Women being sexually assaulted tend not to have that many witnesses because the perp is adept at singling out a victim who isn't in a position to call for help at the time.

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Anybody who did any basic investigation would immediately notice the holes in her story and probably motivation.

 

Now with Bill of course there is no shortage of info.

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Anybody who did any basic investigation would immediately notice the holes in her story and probably motivation.

 

Now with Bill of course there is no shortage of info.

Interesting, I didn't know you were an actual detective? It is wonderful how many experts we have here on VJ.

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20 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Who ever said, other than you of course, that I believe that the main stream media and Snoops are unbiased? It certainly was not me. The mainstream media does have to have to adhere to certain journalistic standards, something Rush Does not. He is just blabber mouth on the radio, pushing an agenda. If you don't like Snoops, then show were they're lying on this issue? Also explain to me how come the right is perfectly okay with the Koch brothers using their wealth to get tax cuts and spread their agenda, but George Soros is evil doing the same or similar. 

You quoted Snopes to refute a sign put up by a supposedly antfascist group, did you qualify that with saying this site may be biased?  Snopes is basing this conclusion on one or two accounts of a loosely led organization that is essentially against freedom.  Snopes may not be lying, but making a "conclusion" based on that is pretty weak.  Maybe they need to do a little more research.  Here also is a little news, journalistic standards have gone out the window as evidenced by rags like the New Yorker, WaPo, etc. printing stories that they cannot verify in any way.  I guess just one person stating something is enough as long as they have the proper political view.

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Interesting, I didn't know you were an actual detective? It is wonderful how many experts we have here on VJ.

How do you know he is not a detective?

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Main stream media and journalistic standards in the same sentence!  Hahahaha! Omg! That was just the laugh I needed today!! 

 

The media articles claim CBF is believed, but from everything I've seen in many many comments sections as well as the admittedly limited social circle of my own.... I'm not convinced that the majority of Americans believe her at all!!  Some do, and they are very vocal. Louder doesn't equate to "more".  Just look at the 2016 election. According to the media, Hillary was going to win by a landslide because she was "loved by all".... how did that end again? Oh yeah...  The tantrums from the minority are still raging, how could I forget!

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6 hours ago, OptimusSpice said:

Main stream media and journalistic standards in the same sentence!  Hahahaha! Omg! That was just the laugh I needed today!! 

 

The media articles claim CBF is believed, but from everything I've seen in many many comments sections as well as the admittedly limited social circle of my own.... I'm not convinced that the majority of Americans believe her at all!!  Some do, and they are very vocal. Louder doesn't equate to "more".  Just look at the 2016 election. According to the media, Hillary was going to win by a landslide because she was "loved by all".... how did that end again? Oh yeah...  The tantrums from the minority are still raging, how could I forget!