VISA Rejected 214(b) because I have US boyfriend

[LDR27 5]

Dear Friends,

 

Can anyone help me with my situation.

I'm Chinese-Indonesian girl, almost 29yo. I just got my us visa rejected 214(b) : Failure to establish ties, this morning.

I'm applying B2 visa for tourist, since me n my boyfriend haven't engaged yet.

I'm currently having my own business which i tag along my dad n my sibling in it, that makes me own a family business.

(But for info, this business is my baby since it's all my sweat, tears, n blood {no its not blood, just time}).

I've bring along all the documents needed to show my assets in Indonesia, but the interviewee wont even look at it,

since the documents still on my side, and i've asked to show it to him but he refused.

I've told everything honestly,I even said that since my boyfriend already came to Indonesia for 2 weeks last July,

my Dad only permit me to go to US for only 2 weeks too, just to be fair.

My boyfriend is ABC, he even already sent me invitation letter, which the interviewee didn't see either even i'm already asking to show him.

 

When the interviewee gave me the red paper, i know for sure i got rejected.

And i asked him immediately before he gave me the paper, why i got rejected.

(Maybe i'm kinda a bit mad when i asked it, since his face was shocked. it's bcoz i chose to be honest, eventhough my friends told me to lie)

The interviewee said it's because:

1. i have a boyfriend in US

2. my business is family business, which makes it looks like i can leave the business easily.

i answer him that i'm the president director of this company, which makes it harder for me to leave it.

and I go to US, so i can meet my boyfriend's family, and bring along his parents to meet my parents in Indonesia.

once again i asked him to see my legal documents, but he said the decision can't be changed.

 

Please help me figure out another way to reapply the US Visa.

Since i really need to meet my boyfriend's family before we go to more serious relationship.

Thank you for your help, it means a lot for both of us.

God bless

Edited August 24, 2018 by LDR27
havent finished yet, dont know what i've press to make it submitted before finished

[arken 4,197]

There’s nothing you can do. COs aren’t required to look at the documents one brings at the interview. CO might have thought, a 29 year old going to US to meet her Bf will probably not return back especially that there are other people to take care of family business.

 

you can apply again but it would likely be denial again so no use. May be you bf can bring his family to meet you.

 

 

[Roel 7,191]

Sorry, but it doesn't look like you'll receive a tourist visa. Consul doesn't have to look at any documents you bring, including the invitation letter.

 

Having US boyfriend is pretty popular reason for rejection.

 

Make an arrangement for boyfriend's family to visit you, if that's really so important. You made is sound like that's not a problem to "bring along his parents to meet your parents in Indonesia"."

Edited August 24, 2018 by Roel

[Paul & Mallory 1,398]

You have to show sufficient evidence that you have ties to your country and will not be a risk of overstaying your visa. It sounds like the interviewee gave you as much information about the rejection that they can - having a job that doesn't necessarily require you to return by a certain time, and having a boyfriend in the US are two huge flags, when it comes to overstaying. Visa applicants must be viewed as possible intending immigrants, especially when you have ties to the US (your boyfriend). Because it is illegal to obtain a tourist visa if/when you have immigration intentions, this is why those kind of factors are looked at so carefully.

 

Examples of evidence supporting ties to your home country can include:

- An official letter from an employer confirming applicant is expected back at work within/at a certain time.

- Mortgage or lease in your name, indicating you have a place of residence in your name that you would need to return to.

- Evidence of business or other official obligations in your home country that would require your return within a certain time.

 

Invitation letter from your boyfriend does not serve any purpose that you would need, as it only actually supports the fact that you have ties to the US (aka possible reason for overstaying).

 

Based on what you have, it sounds like applying again with the same information would most likely lead to the same result. If any other option is not available to you, as far as proving ties to your country, I recommend your boyfriend visit you.

Edited August 24, 2018 by Paul & Mallory

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

Agree, it’s more information than people usually get and also agree with no change in circumstances it’s unlikely to change the outcome at another interview.

 

out of curiosity, where did you meet your boyfriend - was it online or was it in person while one or not of you were traveling?

[Crazy Cat 39,217]

In FY 2017, Indonesia's B visa refusal rate was only 10.99%.  I think if you can show stronger ties to your country, you might be successful in a few months.

[LDR27 5]

Oh my,

 

I'm so thankful for everyone who replied to my question.

it makes me kinda sad, because it proofs that lying is better than telling the truth.

but i was just kinda scared to lie since i know i'm too expressive to lie, they'll easily figure it out.

 

i saw a suggestion telling me, if i reapply, i should bring the documents that showing my obligations.

just a simple question, what if the interviewee doesn't wanna see the documents again?

 

and i got another question, since most likely the suggestion is for my boyfriend's family to come n visit Indonesia,

which for my family it's also required that the male family come to the female family first,

but i saw in another forum, about a canadian guy who got newly married to US woman,

n when he tried to renew his visa, it got rejected too.

from the answers in that forum, people said that he suppose to apply marriage visa from the first try (not just doing the renew visa).

me and my boyfriend know nothing about it.

if in future we decided to married in Indonesia, but staying in US:

1. is my non-immigration rejected visa record will be a trouble for me to apply immigration visa?

2. we know nothing about marriage from different countries, what legal steps should we do?

 

again, thank you so much for all the helps.

God bless u guys abundantly

[Crazy Cat 39,217]

2 minutes ago, LDR27 said:

it makes me kinda sad, because it proofs that lying is better than telling the truth.

No, not true.  If a person is caught committing material misrepresentation, it results in a LIFETIME ban from ever entering the US.....it is always better to answer truthfully when dealing with immigration.

[LDR27 5]

17 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Agree, it’s more information than people usually get and also agree with no change in circumstances it’s unlikely to change the outcome at another interview.

 

out of curiosity, where did you meet your boyfriend - was it online or was it in person while one or not of you were traveling?

hi, just answering the question

it was through a dating application.

i wouldn't suggesting any apps, since its based on our luck and fate, i think.

because mostly dating apps experiences are bad, i just got 1 lucky fate to have my imperfect-but-perfectly-match-for-me boyfriend.

Hope it helps 😸

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

10 minutes ago, LDR27 said:

hi, just answering the question

it was through a dating application.

i wouldn't suggesting any apps, since its based on our luck and fate, i think.

because mostly dating apps experiences are bad, i just got 1 lucky fate to have my imperfect-but-perfectly-match-for-me boyfriend.

Hope it helps 😸

It may be a factor, if visa officer thinks you were specifically looking for an American husband = increased risk of overstay.

 

being denied for 214b won’t be a problem for an immigrant visa.

Edited August 24, 2018 by SusieQQQ

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

Meeting a USC (American Citizen) through a dating app is a flag. Wonder if you've also met Indonesian men thru that app? 

 

Plus, Indonesia is a culturally conservative country, the world's largest muslim nation I think. COs know that, and may look at a 29-yr old single female travelling alone to visit a US boyfriend with suspicion. You'd be viewed as an overstay risk. 

[LDR27 5]

30 minutes ago, Roel said:

Sorry, but it doesn't look like you'll receive a tourist visa. Consul doesn't have to look at any documents you bring, including the invitation letter.

 

Having US boyfriend is pretty popular reason for rejection.

 

Make an arrangement for boyfriend's family to visit you, if that's really so important. You made is sound like that's not a problem to "bring along his parents to meet your parents in Indonesia"."

hi, thank you for ur answer.

my friends told me the same thing too, they said i shouldn't said i got boyfriend in US, i better just said that i'll go travelling alone, since the work is kinda hectic nowadays, and just get refresh myself  bit.

but im kinda too scared to lie.

 

Well, for my boyfriend's parents, they would likely to come to Indonesia, but i think they expect me to meet them first before they come to my parents, as an act of politeness.

Especially bcoz my boyfriend already flew to Indonesia before, to meet my parents too.

i just hope they can understand the situation enough to come to Indonesia.

our other option is to have some vacation together, me and my boyfriend's family (exclude my family first,since my parents prefer that the male family come to female family first, after that both family can go vacation together n all) in other countries, like Japan, or HK, or Vietnam (any places that not require tight VISA like US), he'll try to talk to his parents first.

 

Could it be a good solution?

Thank you so much for ur help ☺️☺️

God bless

[geowrian 22,335]

23 minutes ago, LDR27 said:

it makes me kinda sad, because it proofs that lying is better than telling the truth.

but i was just kinda scared to lie since i know i'm too expressive to lie, they'll easily figure it out.

Never lie to anybody in immigration. The consequence for misrepresentation is a permanent bar on any visa.

Even if it didn't come out originally, you would be in a very bad situation if you eventually wanted to marry and stay in the US as they would see that you had lied during your previous visa application.

 

23 minutes ago, LDR27 said:

i saw a suggestion telling me, if i reapply, i should bring the documents that showing my obligations.

just a simple question, what if the interviewee doesn't wanna see the documents again?

Usually the CO has enough informatio on the DS-160 and the interview to make a decision about ties to return home. Documents do not have to be looked at, and the CO is unable to verify any documents presented. It's good to have them in case they do ask for them, but they only really look at them in borderline cases.

 

23 minutes ago, LDR27 said:

1. is my non-immigration rejected visa record will be a trouble for me to apply immigration visa?

2. we know nothing about marriage from different countries, what legal steps should we do?

1. No. It needs to be disclosed, but won't hurt it. If you had lied, this would be a very different answer.
2. Depends on the country where you marry. I'll defer to others for specifics since it sounds like Indonesia is where you're thinking.

Best wishes. Tourist visas are rough, but you did the right thing. It's by no means the end of the line...you can still visit elsewhere, marry if you want, and apply for a marriage visa if you do marry and want to stay in the US.

[Roel 7,191]

Sure, of course you can meet up in whatever other country you want.

[Paul & Mallory 1,398]

37 minutes ago, LDR27 said:

Oh my,

 

I'm so thankful for everyone who replied to my question.

it makes me kinda sad, because it proofs that lying is better than telling the truth.

but i was just kinda scared to lie since i know i'm too expressive to lie, they'll easily figure it out.

 

No, lying is never better when dealing with immigration. Nobody here is saying or trying to prove that. Lying can get you denied or even worse, banned. Never misrepresent anything.