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2017 K1 Statistics Show Almost 40% Denial Rate!?!?

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I was looking through some websites and I came across some statistics published by the US State Department concerning non immigrant visa approval/denial rates. 

 

If I am reading these stats correctly, it appears as if about 40% of fiance visas were denied in 2017. I can only imagine with our current president, the denials have ticked upward for 2018. Anyone else have any information on this topic? Would anyone recommend better success with a CR1 visa?

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/NIVWorkload/FY2017NIVWorkloadbyVisaCategory.pdf

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There is not such a thing as "better success visa" in my opinion. Both fiance and spouse visas have some conditions to fulfill. I have seen countless posts here about people petitioning for K1 without even being able to make basic visa condition - a meeting in person within last 2 years.

 

CR1 is just better for a future immigrant to live - GC after a month of entering US, also cheaper.

So if married 'CR1, engaged K1 - I just don't see a point of the questioning a success rate here, if relationship/marriage is real and proven there are no problems.

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https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/NIVWorkload/FY2016NIVWorkloadbyVisaCategory.pdf

 

Here is a link to 2016 which is similar, I can only imagine they are due to our past President the denials were pretty much the same,

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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You have to look at the waived\overcome column as well...Waived/overcome means that these number of applicants were originally denied, but ended up being approved after waivers (or administrative processing)...

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Not a newbie but lost my old info years ago) I have been through this process before --all the way through naturalization-- This site has always been a great help to me. 

 

 

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More info https://www.visatutor.com/k-1-visa-statistics-2017/   Google is your friend))) The number of applications and approvals has increased steadily over the years. Low 80% approval rate is pretty good considering I'm pretty sure the number of unprepared applicants has risen.

Not a newbie but lost my old info years ago) I have been through this process before --all the way through naturalization-- This site has always been a great help to me. 

 

 

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What does "current President" have to do with those denials? Stop watching TV, please. I can say that under current administration immigration system has improved.

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Data is one thing, interpreting it is another.

 

That "refusal" rate only includes initial refusals. A 221g pending additional documentation (i.e. anything missing at the interview, regardless of who is missing it) would be included in that. Anybody with a bar that needs to be waived is included in that. Anybody with an inadequate I-134 (financially or documentation-wise) would be included in that even if they later provided proper documentation or a co sponsor.

When you include refusals that are then overcome, the rate is ~85% approval rate / 15% refusal rate. That seems much more suitable given the high variance of cases and all countries.

This rate is very similar to past rates. Nothing to see here.

 

Moral of the story? Present a good case and bring proper documentation.

 

Interesting tidbit...K-3 is even more dead now than I thought. Only 29 issued last fiscal year, apparently. And the few dozen more refused is a very high rate (~58% ultimately refused)...so even if it somehow gets through USCIS and NVC, embassies still seem to be refusing them very often.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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1 hour ago, Springrain22 said:

What does "current President" have to do with those denials? Stop watching TV, please. I can say that under current administration immigration system has improved.

I would agree as well with the above comments, if you have a true relationship and meet the requirements involving the copies of official documents, proof of meeting continuously especially the twice in the past 2 year requirement, and are taking this seriously financially and truthfully there is no need to worry. Yes are there a lot of fulfillment, sure, but are those fulfillment easy if you are taking this seriously, yes in my opinion 

K1 Journey from Spain to USA :wub:
10-25-2017 I-129F Sent to Lewisville
10-27-2017 NOA1
XX-XX-XXXX NOA2 :jest:
XX-XX-XXXX NVC Received
XX-XX-XXXX Interview Scheduled
XX-XX-XXXX POE :whistle:
XX-XX-XXXX Married 
 
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19 hours ago, boris64 said:

You have to look at the waived\overcome column as well...Waived/overcome means that these number of applicants were originally denied, but ended up being approved after waivers (or administrative processing)...

This.

 

Also - I'm pretty confident a majority of denials are a result of applicants not complying with the outlined requirements and rules. That is not the fault of any current political office occupants, or of any procedures/processes currently in place or newly in place. You see far too many people forgetting required information/items, leaving out information, not following directions, etc.

Håll ut, y'all.

 

               K1 Process                                                                                AOS Process

July 2015 - met online thanks to Zak Bagans                                                            May 25, 2018 - South Carolina marriage license issued

June 2016 - first in-person meeting                                                                             May 26, 2018 - legally married

August 2016 - stateside visit                                                                                        June 7, 2018 - applied for Social Security Number [manual verification required]

February-April 2017 - stateside visit                                                                           June 18, 2018 - SSN/card received in the mail

April 4, 2017 - got engaged                                                                                          June 30, 2018 - submitted I-485 (AOS)/I-765 (EAD)/I-131 (AP) together

June 5, 2017 - submitted I129F                                                                                   July 9, 2018 - AOS/EAD/AP electronic NOA1 received

June 12, 2017 - received NOA1                                                                                   July 13, 2018 - AOS/EAD/AP hard copy NOA1 received (dated July 6, 2018)

December 1, 2017 - received NOA2                                                                            July 25, 2018 - Biometrics appointment (Charlotte, NC)

January 17, 2018 - NVC received case                                                                      August 1, 2018 - case status updated to "Ready to be Scheduled for Interview"

January 18, 2018 - received NVC case number by phone                                      August 11, 2018 - case status updated to "I-485 Interview Scheduled"

January 24, 2018 - packet received via email                                                           August 16, 2018 - AOS Interview Scheduled letter received

February 15, 2018 - medical appointment                                                                 August 28, 2018 - visited civil surgeon (Winston-Salem, NC) to complete I-693

February-March 2018 - trip to Gothenburg                                                                                                [beneficiary had to get one remaining vaccination stateside]

February 22, 2018 - interview at the US Embassy in Stockholm                            September 18, 2018 - I-485/AOS Interview in Greer, SC

                                    [passed, pending receipt of medical papers]                           September 18, 2018 - case status updated to "Card Has Been Issued/Mailed"

February 27, 2018 - medical papers received by Embassy                                     September 25, 2018 - Green Card received in the mail

March 5, 2018 - visa received in the mail with passport                                          October 6, 2018 - traditional wedding with family & friends

May 16, 2018 - POE in Charlotte, NC

 

 

Up next.... Removal of Conditions!

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1 hour ago, geowrian said:

Data is one thing, interpreting it is another.

 

That "refusal" rate only includes initial refusals. A 221g pending additional documentation (i.e. anything missing at the interview, regardless of who is missing it) would be included in that. Anybody with a bar that needs to be waived is included in that. Anybody with an inadequate I-134 (financially or documentation-wise) would be included in that even if they later provided proper documentation or a co sponsor.

When you include refusals that are then overcome, the rate is ~85% approval rate / 15% refusal rate. That seems much more suitable given the high variance of cases and all countries.

This rate is very similar to past rates. Nothing to see here.

 

Moral of the story? Present a good case and bring proper documentation.

 

Interesting tidbit...K-3 is even more dead now than I thought. Only 29 issued last fiscal year, apparently. And the few dozen more refused is a very high rate (~58% ultimately refused)...so even if it somehow gets through USCIS and NVC, embassies still seem to be refusing them very often.

I'll elaborate on your Moral of the story...ADD: research and hopefully come across VisaJourney website to guide you into an almost guaranteed approval! :) 

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Look at the questions that are asked daily. Think about all thoses that file that lack VJ and other resourses. All things considered maybe the approved rate reflects the lack of research.

 

Wishing all a great outcome,

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3 hours ago, Springrain22 said:

What does "current President" have to do with those denials? Stop watching TV, please. I can say that under current administration immigration system has improved.

How so? My husband came over 11 years ago on a K1. It was significantly cheaper and faster back then.

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4 minutes ago, dirtyhippiegirl said:

How so? My husband came over 11 years ago on a K1. It was significantly cheaper and faster back then.

I bought a car 11 years ago, it was cheaper than the one I bought this year too....shocking!

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