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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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7 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Yes, female tourists are subject to this dress code as well in Saudi Arabia, while in the surrounding Muslim countries(ie UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain) there is no mandatory dress, but tourists and Western women are advised to wear "Modest Clothes". 

 

The burqa is primarily a Central Asian custom which if you notice there is like a mesh opening for them to see out and you can't really the face inside. While the full face nijab is kind of see through like you can see out but you can't see in, it's like a mesh as well. The women wearing a nijab you see in restaurants have to face toward the wall while eating because they have to lift up the veil to get the food/drink in the mouth.

 

Contrary to common misconception it is not a Islamic requirement to wear a nijab or burka at all. But this is still open to debate between Moderates and Conservative Islamic sects that is debated today, but it is a requirement to wear a hijab. 

I didn't know these things -- very educational.  Many thanks.

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Although this is a step in the right direction, it still has a long way to go. Apparently women have to be over 30, can only drive certain hours and must stay in city limits.

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8 hours ago, eieio said:

Although this is a step in the right direction, it still has a long way to go. Apparently women have to be over 30, can only drive certain hours and must stay in city limits.

Hmmm

 

Lot to be said...

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Rome wasn't built in one day.

 

Why can't people just see this as exactly what it is: a positive development.

Untill late 70's in Western European countries when a woman marries she automatically looses her job. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Beachlover said:

Rome wasn't built in one day.

 

Why can't people just see this as exactly what it is: a positive development.

Untill late 70's in Western European countries when a woman marries she automatically looses her job. 

Well in an age of Global Warming is it such a good idea?

 

Late 70's? Really!

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Off course it's a great idea, they have the right to contribute to global warming too.

 

Yep, till late 70's: marriage means loosing your job.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The only people who have a right to contribute to Global Warming are Luvvies, they are special.

 

Most odd, my memory must be failing me, maybe the Ladies at the time did not get the fax?

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46 minutes ago, Boiler said:

The only people who have a right to contribute to Global Warming are Luvvies, they are special.

 

Most odd, my memory must be failing me, maybe the Ladies at the time did not get the fax?

Nah, the GWD's can contribute as well.

 

I dunno how far back your memory goes.

A different case but also interesting: 

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/08/country-that-didnt-let-women-vote-till-1971/
 

Fascinating....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Boiler said:

Most odd, my memory must be failing me, maybe the Ladies at the time did not get the fax?

Fewer communicated via fax than via Telex message, perhaps.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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