DACA recipients should prepare for departure from the United States

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

9 minutes ago, Hypnos said:

What I'm saying is it showed more political acumen that he has hitherto displayed. It was still a shitty thing to do, however.

I thought that's what you said, I just don't agree. All he's doing is alienating more and more ppl.

[f f 725]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

If you are looking for someone to blame Obama is your man.

yep

giving people a sense of hope only to have another person disagree and take it away. it is sad but as our laws stand that is what they say should be done. as I I have said before immigration law is not designed to be nice to immigrants or thier families, it is designed to protect the people of the us as a whole. by protect us I mean to keep criminals out as well as to protect our labor market from an excess of workers.

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

6 minutes ago, f f said:

yep

giving people a sense of hope only to have another person disagree and take it away. it is sad but as our laws stand that is what they say should be done. as I I have said before immigration law is not designed to be nice to immigrants or thier families, it is designed to protect the people of the us as a whole. by protect us I mean to keep criminals out as well as to protect our labor market from an excess of workers.

You also have to live in reality.  The reality is that as of now most of these ppl are American. They know no other country. They are not to blame... the US has invested tons of money into them already. An investment that will only be returned by letting them stay. Not only does this decision make no sense from a humanitarian point of view - but if the economy is your argument it also makes no sense..  you'll have a hard time arguing that they are criminals since there are requirements on DACA applicants that prevent that. 

Edited September 6, 2017 by Suss&Camm

[PrincyE 87]

5 minutes ago, Suss&Camm said:

You also have to live in reality.  The reality is that as of now most of these ppl are American. They know no other country. They are not to blame... the US has invested tons of money into them already. An investment that will only be returned by letting them stay. Not only does this decision make no sense from a humanitarian point of view - but if the economy is your argument it also makes no sense..  you'll have a hard time arguing that they are criminals since there are requirements on DACA applicants that prevent that. 

I agree with your point. These young adults have probably taken out hundreds of thousands in student loans to attend school some have business and are doing great. So much money invested. I don't see the point its not like they begged their parents to bring them here at one, two or three years old. or whoever brought them. What about the little kids ? I wonder what happeneds to them. This is so sad. I feel like trump just wants to do undo everything Obama did. Its a mess 😔

[Hypnos 6,576]

America isn't a place where we punish children for the crimes of their parents, but that's what this policy does.

[Boiler 43,361]

Illegal presence does not accrue until 18.

[Hypnos 6,576]

Children grow up, unless they have that Benjamin Button disease.

[Boiler 43,361]

Just now, Hypnos said:

Children grow up, unless they have that Benjamin Button disease.

True

[Mrs. Wild 87]

11 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Illegal presence does not accrue until 18.

At which point, many have been in the US their whole lives and have nowhere else to call home. Many don't even have relatives in the country they came from. It's sad and heartbreaking all around. 

[Boiler 43,361]

If they have been in the US their whole lives they are USC's.

 

DACA is irrelevant.

[Diane and Chris 651]

The parents of these children are to blame. Unfortunately, the children will suffer as a result.  It's not Trump's fault. 

[Deagle 493]

Best option for them, if they will be deported. Is that there will be no ban on the ones with no criminal record, maybe not even a felony. They get to apply and come back.

[PrincyE 87]

They could have atleast offered some type of travel accommodation. There are just like in 6 months ✌🏽

[mcdull 474]

2 hours ago, Suss&Camm said:

He could have pushed a long-term solution in a humane way, without pulling out the rug from underneath hundreds of thousands young ppl.

If this long-term solution fails to materialize no one but Trump owns ruining the life's of all of them. Not that I think it'll keep him up at night. His soul is like a rotten apple. To think I at one point had hopes that he could prove so mny of us wrong.. 

I don't see "shrewd business" in anything he does... I see him wanting it to look that way - he can't run a business and he sure as heck can't run a country. He has no morals and a country exists in the realm of living ppl not in an isolated world of pluses, minuses and percentages.

are you done with your rant and rave? You may continue but this country under PRESIDENT Trump's leadership is about to clean the constitutional mess created by an illegal executive branch decision.

 

 

[mcdull 474]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Wild said:

At which point, many have been in the US their whole lives and have nowhere else to call home. Many don't even have relatives in the country they came from. It's sad and heartbreaking all around. 

So you are telling me, it is ok for illegal aliens to settle down in the States, a once foreign and unknown land,  but not ok to return to their home country?