Gun-related Deaths in America Eclipse Terrorism

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7 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

I'm aware of what the second amendment is, it's outdated and written at a time when muskets we're the main weapon of choice. It needs an upgrade because we're living in the 21st century.

Actually when the 2nd amendment was written there were breach loading rifles and even early repeaters. I'm sure they were aware of these since both had been used in the war. One interesting repeating design is a the swivel breach flintlock. They must have also been aware of how technology was progressing.

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It's the mentality of people that has to change when it comes up to guns.

 

Criminals will always have access to guns.

 

Most countries that don't allow citizens to own guns don't do that because of gun violence. They do this to prevent their citizens to overthrow the government/royal family.

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15 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

It's not an exaggeration, 3% of the population own half of all guns in this country.

This should be a good thing. Its unlikely that 3% are using their firearms in crime. Most are collectors.

 

I also doubt most gun owners admit to gun ownership in polls

 

Edited August 18, 2017 by 8bit_Theatre

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9 minutes ago, Beachlover said:

There is one huge difference though; hierarchy is very important in the US, in Europe ( especially West Europe) not so much.

 

 

I do not understand this statement. Can you elaborate?

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Just now, 8bit_Theatre said:

I do not understand this statement. Can you elaborate?

I will try, I'm typing from my phone which makes it a little bit harder :-)

 

For example I've seen people accepting dominant behavior of employers and/or supervisors. That's something I personally have never encountered, so I was kind of baffled that its accepted that an employer/supervisor can do that without repercussions.

I've also seen it at the University where professors have a authoritarian attitude towards students. 

I also see it in contacts with government institutions, especially if someone is wearing a uniform. You are expected to do as you are told.

 

Let's say it's a whole new experience to me personally.

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23 minutes ago, Beachlover said:

I don't think so. In fact government interference in both Europe and the US is almost on the same level. There is one huge difference though; hierarchy is very important in the US, in Europe ( especially West Europe) not so much.

 

As far as terrorism attacks, geographicly Europe and the Middle East are close to each other.  Europe and the Middle East have always had a hate/love relationship so from this point of view more terrorist attacks take place in that area then there will be in the US. Has nothing to do how government rules people's lives or not.   I'm from the Netherlands, which is a very liberal country and there hasn't been any attack there like what's going on in the surrounding countries.....*knocks on wood*

Exactly, ever since I have came to the USA I've heard some Americans say they got more freedom than those in Western Europe because they are allowed to have a gun. I just laugh because it is complete nonsense. My freedoms here are no different to what I had in the UK.

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11 minutes ago, Beachlover said:

I will try, I'm typing from my phone which makes it a little bit harder :-)

 

For example I've seen people accepting dominant behavior of employers and/or supervisors. That's something I personally have never encountered, so I was kind of baffled that its accepted that an employer/supervisor can do that without repercussions.

I've also seen it at the University where professors have a authoritarian attitude towards students. 

I also see it in contacts with government institutions, especially if someone is wearing a uniform. You are expected to do as you are told.

 

Let's say it's a whole new experience to me personally.

University is like a whole other country. They seem to think they make laws. 

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10 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Exactly, ever since I have came to the USA I've heard some Americans say they got more freedom than those in Western Europe because they are allowed to have a gun. I just laugh because it is complete nonsense. My freedoms here are no different to what I had in the UK.

There are three things that come to mind for me.

 

1. Gun ownership

2. TV licenses 

3. Hate speech

 

4. Cars are expensive to keep in the UK....infact travel is expensive. I remember ticket prices spiking all the time for rail.

Edited August 18, 2017 by 8bit_Theatre

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8 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Exactly, ever since I have came to the USA I've heard some Americans say they got more freedom than those in Western Europe because they are allowed to have a gun. I just laugh because it is complete nonsense. My freedoms here are no different to what I had in the UK.

Did that line get squawked to you by the talking CCTVs? 

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23 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Did that line get squawked to you by the talking CCTVs? 

No, common sense.

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13 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

No, common sense.

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6 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Yes I was thinking the same thing 

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Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

Yes I was thinking the same thing 

UK being the essence of modern day big brother. 

 

"Our freedoms are the same"

 

 

Killing me. 

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20 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

No, common sense.

Very little of that here. 

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I see from the amount of gun hating individuals.....even on this forum....it is such a relief that Trump won and appointed a sumpreme court judge that will uphold the constitution. 

 

Imagine the gun hating nut job that Hillary would have appointed.