Atlanta immigration detainee dies

[CaliCat 3,957]

9 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I would agree it is weird, but while there are cases of those being sent back on the next flight home immediately there are also cases of being detained for a longer period (in both the US and UK actually). The UK has been actually found to hold people wrongly in many different cases of persons who should have been immediately returned home. We don't know specifically why, perhaps the US officials wanted to investigate his documentation more, perhaps there was not a flight available immediately, there's lots of possibilities I suppose. Take the UK's removal program of someone denied entry at the border - it may take several days or weeks to return them home. In some cases they may even grant a temporary stay to the individual to walk free and not hold them in a detention facility at all (not sure if this example is rare or is no longer practiced but I can 100% confirm they once did this).

 

They could both be on appeals, or there might be other mitigating circumstances. Neither article provides necessary details, so many are left t wonder, as is the case in this thread.

[CaliCat 3,957]

8 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

 

Mr. Jimenez entered ICE custody March 2 in Wake County, North Carolina, pursuant to an ICE immigration detainer following his release from local law enforcement custody after his Jan. 5 felony conviction for larceny of a motor vehicle.

 

You need go back and read my comment again.

 

7 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

If ICE is a prison are you saying Mr Patel was a criminal?

 

Your getting the two cases mixed up.

 

Both men were in custody, which means that neither had been released by ICE. They were both in removal proceedings, which is the equivalent to being placed in a holding facility, waiting for their cases to be heard, or to be removed from the country - that is something their lawyers can explain. 

 

Mr. Patel certainly was not a criminal, or at least there is no indication to that effect in both articles. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

37 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

He was transferred to ICE custody in the Atlanta City Detention Center on Thursday, according to the agency. An initial medical screening at the time determined he had high blood pressure and diabetes. Two days later, Patel was transported to the hospital after a nurse checking his blood sugar noticed he had shortness of breath, ICE said. He died on Tuesday afternoon.

 

He was still in custody of ICE.  In layman's lingo that's as good as prison. 

Ok, where should he have been? He should have already been back in Ecuador in my book.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

4 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Ok, where should he have been? He should have already been back in Ecuador in my book.

Million Dollar question...

Denied Access to the United States, Dies on American soil.  

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

From the darling newspaper that is used in many a new thread here on the forum, "Illegal immigrant dies from medical condition after being held by immigration agency"

 

"By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Wednesday, May 17, 2017

An illegal immigrant who tried to enter the U.S. by plane earlier this month has died after being held in custody by immigration agents, Homeland Security said Wednesday.

Atulkumar Babubhai Patel, 58, was an Indian citizen, and arrived on a May 10 flight from Equador to Atlanta."

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/17/illegal-immigrant-dies-us-custody/

 

 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, Mr&Mrs G. said:

From the darling newspaper that is used in many a new thread here on the forum, "Illegal immigrant dies from medical condition after being held by immigration agency"

 

"By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Wednesday, May 17, 2017

An illegal immigrant who tried to enter the U.S. by plane earlier this month has died after being held in custody by immigration agents, Homeland Security said Wednesday.

Atulkumar Babubhai Patel, 58, was an Indian citizen, and arrived on a May 10 flight from Equador to Atlanta."

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/17/illegal-immigrant-dies-us-custody/

 

 

really? Someone reads the Washington Times?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, CaliCat said:

 

He may have started feeling unwell and sent to the hospital before they had a chance to get him on a flight back to Ecuador. 

That was his problem..getting sick in American with no insurance

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

3 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Million Dollar question...

Denied Access to the United States, Dies on American soil.  

So he was from India and tried to use the backdoor to get in the USA.....Interesting...... Should have sent him back to India. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

Just now, ccneat said:

That was his problem..getting sick in American with no insurance

 

No insurance really? The main problem was that he was ILLEGALLY TRYING TO ENTER THE USA.

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

Just now, ccneat said:

really? Someone reads the Washington Times?

Apparently so and that's why I thought they might be more comfortable getting their news from a more familiar site, just trying to be helpful. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, cyberfx1024 said:

So he was from India and tried to use the backdoor to get in the USA.....Interesting...... Should have sent him back to India. 

you don't know that at all.  He could have been flying United and they threatened to beat him if he did not connect via Quito

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, cyberfx1024 said:

 

No insurance really? The main problem was that he was ILLEGALLY TRYING TO ENTER THE USA.

so funny..you keep saying that and have no proof that he broke American laws. I was with a Canadian man who traveled on an expired passport into the states and they waved him in, the next guy could look dodgy and without reason the CBP could turn him back.  It is not adjudicated.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

4 minutes ago, ccneat said:

you don't know that at all.  He could have been flying United and they threatened to beat him if he did not connect via Quito

Touche.....

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

13 minutes ago, ccneat said:

really? Someone reads the Washington Times?

    Got my Washington newspapers mixed up  

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

7 minutes ago, ccneat said:

so funny..you keep saying that and have no proof that he broke American laws. I was with a Canadian man who traveled on an expired passport into the states and they waved him in, the next guy could look dodgy and without reason the CBP could turn him back.  It is not adjudicated.

He was detained at the airport for more than a couple days. If I was ICE and I had this guy who had a medical condition that actually was Legal, I would have released him right away and let him deal with his own issues.