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12 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

So let me get this straight. Thugs are acceptable when they look like white guys with orange hair but any black person is called a thug

in a degrading manner by you....so which is it ? You want to call blacks thugs but then take the description "thug" and make it into

something like hero worship for your pres elect ?

The one who is full of hot air making promises such as 'lock her up' but then says she is a nice lady on TV ?

How old are you all ? 12 ?

well the modern use of the the  Word Thug was coined and popularized by Black People and Black artist to describe a certain lifestyle associated with Black Hoodlums, low life bottom feeder. Usually associated with Islamic style treatment of women, Lots of dope and gold Jewelry and usually a fondness for Rap Music. Sagging pants, braided hair etc. You get the picture

 

You can think of the term Thug as FUBU. For us by us.

 

Now why some tree hugging liberals get bent out of shape when someone use the term THUG as it was intended to be used by Black people themselves, is beyond imagination. 

 

I will say Ice Cube's why we thugs is a very cool song.

 

MDL are you offended by ICE Cube ?

 

How about Thug Mansion by 2Pac another great song 

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12 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

So let me get this straight. Thugs are acceptable when they look like white guys with orange hair but any black person is called a thug

in a degrading manner by you....so which is it ? You want to call blacks thugs but then take the description "thug" and make it into

something like hero worship for your pres elect ?

The one who is full of hot air making promises such as 'lock her up' but then says she is a nice lady on TV ?

How old are you all ? 12 ?

Something tells me they would be very confused if they encountered a Chav. ;-)  It's funny though that NB should think that the term 'thug' was somehow coined or invented by African Americans. It actually goes back to 14th century India. Kind of to refer to sorts of roving gangs of criminals or criminal organizations... akin to like an Indian mafia. Mark Twain actually made that term popular and widespread in use during the 1800s. It never referred to African Americans, but it certainly referred to Irish and Italian mafia gangs or anyone that ran around robbing and murdering a person for fun times for their 'leaders'. It was also popular during the elite mafia days and during Prohibition. Rappers, specifically Tupac, didn't start using the term until the 80s. But what it meant to him as a representation of and the other aspects of rap culture that came to be associated with it, are two different things. Thug life, for instance was a term he wanted to use as a poor person who wished to overcome and succeed by any means necessary - if doing an illegal activity some sort of honor code was needed to reign in violence. Unfortunately the glorification today of 'any means necessary' is now the 'only means' often using drugs and violence as an economic method and celebration of success. Thug is almost always associated in a negative term on this forum and we know why. It was certainly a negative in the 14th century, and largely it is a negative today - except by those who want to be 'cool kids', 'alpha male psychosis worshippers' or people pretending to be 'cool kids' . Nothing to be proud of certainly, but I guess if a narrative fits they're going to roll with it.

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Just now, yuna628 said:

Something tells me they would be very confused if they encountered a Chav. ;-)  It's funny though that NB should think that the term 'thug' was somehow coined or invented by African Americans. It actually goes back to 14th century India. Kind of to refer to sorts of roving gangs of criminals or criminal organizations... akin to like an Indian mafia. Mark Twain actually made that term popular and widespread in use during the 1800s. It never referred to African Americans, but it certainly referred to Irish and Italian mafia gangs or anyone that ran around robbing and murdering a person for fun times for their 'leaders'. It was also popular during the elite mafia days and during Prohibition. Rappers, specifically Tupac, didn't start using the term until the 80s. But what it meant to him as a representation of and the other aspects of rap culture that came to be associated with it, are two different things. Thug life, for instance was a term he wanted to use as a poor person who wished to overcome and succeed by any means necessary - if doing an illegal activity some sort of honor code was needed to reign in violence. Unfortunately the glorification today of 'any means necessary' is now the 'only means' often using drugs and violence as an economic method and celebration of success. Thug is almost always associated in a negative term on this forum and we know why. It was certainly a negative in the 14th century, and largely it is a negative today - except by those who want to be 'cool kids', 'alpha male psychosis worshippers' or people pretending to be 'cool kids' . Nothing to be proud of certainly, but I guess if a narrative fits they're going to roll with it.

Thats cute cept that is not even close to what I said 

 

Here is what I said. The word Modern means Recently .. Reading is fundamental dear 

 

well the modern use of the the  Word Thug was coined and popularized by Black People and Black artist to describe a certain lifestyle associated with Black Hoodlums, low life bottom feeder. 

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6 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Thats cute cept that is not even close to what I said 

 

Here is what I said. The word Modern means Recently .. Reading is fundamental dear 

 

well the modern use of the the  Word Thug was coined and popularized by Black People and Black artist to describe a certain lifestyle associated with Black Hoodlums, low life bottom feeder. 

African Americans didn't even coin the modern use of the word or make it popular (it was already popular). The term still means the same thing it meant back in the 14th century. The modern term is the same as the original term, with no distinction. Tupac, who is said to have first used the term in association with rap - but that use of meaning changes with every artist and culture that uses it. You use the term low life bottom feeder, certainly not the dictionary meaning, and certainly not  by Tupac. That definition is your own. Are white people excluded from being thugs in a negative connotation, or is it only Donald Trump that gets to have a free pass?

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1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

African Americans didn't even coin the modern use of the word. The term still means the same thing it meant back in the 14th century. The modern term is the same as the original term, with no distinction. Tupac, who is said to have first used the term in association with rap - but that use of meaning changes with every artist and culture that uses it. You use the term low life bottom feeder, certainly not the dictionary, and certainly not Tupac. Are white people excluded from being thugs in a negative connotation, or is it only Donald Trump that gets to have a free pass?

Great reply cept it's not even remotely true and absurdly ridiculous .  The term doesn't anymore mean what it meant in the 14th century than a coffee shop is the same as it was in the 14th century .

 

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09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

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